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As for his meta, it seems he doesn't play like he's been playing this game as either alignment. Here's his Town play. ##unvote | ||
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I asked you what you thought about SnB's claim and if you thought it was bad for town, and you answered: On November 13 2012 10:12 Hapahauli wrote: @ Clarity Well in a theoretical sense yes, but you remember how well that worked with Cheesecake in Newbie XXX right? It's really not that significant IMO. You compared this to Cheese's claim from NMM XXX even though the situations are completely different. The only reason Cheese claimed was because he thought only VT's knew the VT flavor. So he was trying to claim without alerting scum. SnB just outright claimed VT. After I explain why it's different, you basically give me the same answer: On November 13 2012 10:25 Hapahauli wrote: No I don't find it weird. I think it's just a pointless comment that can be made by either alignment. Again, see Mr. Cheesecake's "odd" VT claim time in the Newbie game. Him trusting Z-Bo's claim so up-front is a bit strange, but again, I don't know if it's just bad logic or scum knowing who's who. I haven't seen anything alignment indicative from him yet. The other thing I don't really like is the use of "theoretically yes" and "IMO" Whenever I've seen you post you tend to be direct and with conviction, but not this time. | ||
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Who are you most interested to hear from right now, to clear or strengthen suspicions? | ||
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Hi guys, I'm back. Marv I'm not suspicious of you, I was just curious about debears' response. I phrased the question in a way that would make him seem inconsistent if he found you town, but he found you town anyway. Gives me a town read on debears. Scum hate to be inconsistent. | ||
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On November 14 2012 01:51 marvellosity wrote: Guys, guys!!! I think I may have an awesome quiz for you a little later in the evening. It may even be as good as my Palmar quiz in Rock Band. I'll bite..... what? | ||
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On November 14 2012 02:41 iamperfection wrote: I changed my mind deal with it bro. When I get home I might do it again. does that make me scum? If so continue if not don't waste my time What made you change your mind? | ||
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On November 14 2012 03:52 strongandbig wrote: but look at the reasoning for his town read, it was also terrible. it was a visceral (no eyes) reaction, the first thing to come out of his gut, just like "oh i guess zboson is town" was the first thing to come out of my gut when he posted it. So he changes from a weak, gut-reaction-based townread to a scum read. It's not like he was hard defending zboson or even really thinking about it in a way that we should be super concerned about, he was just pooping ideas out onto the thread. I have to agree with this. People might be misrepresenting iamp's initial post about zbo's miller claim. In the same post he even mentions the possibility of him being scum, but it would be a risky play for him. He gets corrected on this, since we don't know the setup, and he doesn't disagree. | ||
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On November 14 2012 04:17 Clarity_nl wrote: Darthpunk... maybe. Best I've got, working on a case right now but not liking how it's turning out. Yeah.... making a case on Darth isn't working, which I think in itself says a lot. If you guys somehow haven't noticed. Take a look at Darth's filter. It's basically a bunch of one-liners, jokes, the occasional null read on others. It doesn't actually help town. The only things that stand out in his filter are him voting for SnB with the comment "so retarded" (which apparantly is a null tell, judging by his previous games, he throws the word around a lot) After I jump on the SnB wagon, he votes for me without explaining. Later on he quotes his own post of him voting for me and explains why, after I explain my reasoning he quickly unvotes me and hops back on SnB. On November 13 2012 15:56 DarthPunk wrote: I am just throwing my vote around trying to see what's up. I think I explained both my votes on him adequately maybe you disagree with the reasons and that is fine. The reason I unvoted S&B the first time was that I voted for Clarity for what I perceived to be an easy jump onto an easy wagon. He gave his explanation, I unvoted and then I re-voted S&B. I cannot find the townie reasoning behind several things S&B has posted thus far. I cannot reconcile using WIFOM about his scum game as townie behaviour and I do not buy the too scummy to be scum shit. I am far from certain about him. But if he is town I want him to shape up. I don;t like using FoS's anymore so a vote it is. @blazinghand. Guess I am bad. He then claims he's just "throwing his vote around", but he doesn't ask questions or make comments about me or SnB. On November 13 2012 16:50 DarthPunk wrote: Eh. I wouldn;t say I had a particularly strong read on S&B. ##Unvote Then why vote for him? Because if it was to pressure, why wouldn't he actually explain why he's voted this way or ask questions? You either vote to lynch or you vote to pressure. But Darth's vote was.... neither? ##Vote DarthPunk | ||
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If he's not scum in your eyes, that means he's terrible town, or do you disagree? | ||
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The description "has a 3 page filter but nothing that I can make a read off of" doesn't seem very townie to me. | ||
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Rather odd to be cracking jokes and saying you have null reads when you don't have the time to post, unless you're trying to seem active. | ||
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Well I'm working under the assumption that it's a time issue, being in two active mafia games. Cracking jokes is something you do on the side. You play mafia to play mafia, socializing is nice but it's not why I play mafia at least, guess I can't speak for others. If all you're doing is cracking jokes then that's anti-town, you don't agree? If you're going to be around to post 3 pages of filter without content, why not post 1 page of content instead, if you're town. | ||
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On November 14 2012 06:16 Blazinghand wrote: You were starting a weak wagon. This is the easiest way to start a wagon as scum. You wanted to take a position that LOOKED good, which is started a wagon, without the commitment and risk that comes with it. Something you could back off of or move away from easily-- and look how you did. It was a vote with a ghost of a case rather than a real one. And you backtracked it quite well, but the point stands. Yeah it was based on iamp being generally a bad player but there's also a difference between starting a wagon with no case and jumping on one with no case. In retrospect iamp was not immune to blame, but saying something like "he didn't attack iamperfection hard enough" or "one paragraph in this post was a bit fluffy" (1)when in fact it was not, i'm trying to help the players in this game play well) isn't a legitimate critique of my posting. 2)You've made a good case for why DP and iamperfection are also scummy, but nothing here about why you're not. In retrospect, I shouldn't have implicitly rule out the possibility of you AND iamperfection being scum together. And, I think it's scummy here that A) you've backed away from your SnB vote and claimed it was just pressure when the wagon began to fall apart, just like you set up for when you voted B) this is basically a straight-up OMGUS I had moved my vote over to iamperfection, and he seems scummy but I really can't ignore a shit OMGUS of this magnitude. Rereading I've realized it was a mistake to ever unvote you. 3)And I am not threatened by your claim because a miller claim is meaningless-- it's a null tell. It's never factored into my case or my analysis of you, but you sure seem insecure about it. ##unvote ##vote ZB 1) I don't think anyone in this game would describe your play as "trying to help others to play well" 2) You haven't defended yourself either. 3) Were you supposed to feel threatened? Why even mention this? Clearly I'm not seeing what you're seeing because Zbo looks town to me. He hasn't posted much but his posts have been informative and give me an idea of what he's thinking at that time. | ||
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