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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 00:53 GMT
#3462
On November 21 2012 09:52 iamperfection wrote:
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On November 21 2012 09:51 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 21 2012 09:50 iamperfection wrote:
## Vote clarity

my gut


Sorry iamp, your gut is wrong. Shoulda gone with your brain.

did you forget day 1? shenanigans are never ruled out


I am against shenanigans unless they save me. So if you wanna switch I won't yell at you.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 00:54 GMT
#3465
I appreciate the kind words this game blazing.

And iamp I take it back, I probably will yell at you.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 00:55 GMT
#3467
It's Djo. But I'll make a better post than that, give me a bit
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 01:12 GMT
#3472
On November 16 2012 11:04 Djodref wrote:
I was following the game quite closely and I would have liked to lynch Cross or BH today.
I'm quite sure Hope is not SK because it would have been totally dumb for a SK to kill such a scummy player when town is already at a good advantage.


Right after he replaces thrawn after the nightpost where cross got shot. Seriously, scum doesn't do this.

Djo opens by saying "Don't ignore blazing just because he's an uncontested claim"
Then...
On November 16 2012 18:09 Djodref wrote:
I don't think it is as unlikely as it seems. I have good arguments to support this but I'm phone posting from my car so I'm not in the best position to explain them in details but here are a few hints.
First things first, BH play is not town-like. Could we at least agree on this one ?
Secondly, when you look at C9++, from which the setup of our game is derived from, the roles of the mafia team are given after that the roles for the town are decided. So the mafia team have more info than us about the roles. My point is that for a goon, goon, GF scumteam, it is not so risky for a troll goon to claim JK, as it is less likely to have a real JK.
Thirdly, voting against Hapa could have been a soft bus vote rather than a real bus vote because a Hapa lynch was unlikely to happen. Nobody could have foresaw it, especially with the Kickstart switch coming from nowhere.


This is where the setup speculation starts, and it starts for a reason. People seem to overlook this. Djo doesn't just talk about setup speculation for the sake of it, he is doing it to scumhunt. The accusations of him not scumhunting are false.

The setup stuff eventually leads (poor keirathi, really) to us figuring out that hopeless and blazing are confirmed.
I guess in a way the zbo lynch needed to happen because of that, but it could have waited a day, maybe scum would have nk'ed zbo because it was pretty likely he was cop or roleblocker.
Anyway...

Scum actually don't like to speculate setup if it might lead to confirmed townies. Scum love setup speculation, but they don't love to start it. It's the same about policy talk early D1. If a townie is talking policy you join them and ask them questions etc, but you never wanna be the one starting it.
The fact that it's a null tell for so many people is weird to me.

My last point in favor of djo is his case on darth. It makes sense, it doesn't seem forced. He pointed out that one of my comments pointed him towards it, which obviously gives me a stronger town read on him.

If djo comes in as a scum replacement in a 1v9 situation, I think he'd be trying much harder (this might sound weird, it's not to imply you're not trying djo). He would be doing waaaaay more and making cases everywhere. He also wouldn't be throwing around town reads so willy-nilly, because he knows he'd have to 180 on them later.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 01:18 GMT
#3474
kickstart if you have a stronger scumread on snb, keep your vote on him, I don't think anyone will disagree with this.
Consolidation is only really needed if there's 3-4 people that are viable lynch candidates.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 01:33 GMT
#3476
I'm not convinced on a darth wagon for the following reason:
If he flips town I will likely die next daycycle, meaning snb will surive ANOTHER day.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 01:35 GMT
#3477
I'd rather die today than have snb survive tomorrow. So it's snb or me, djo.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 01:46 GMT
#3480
I play to improve, it's why I hate last minute shenanigans. Bad posture.
I'm town, though.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 01:50 GMT
#3481
Gonna be so mad if snb flips town in 3 days. Seriously, we could've figured it out 3 days ago. TT
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 01:52 GMT
#3483
Seriously though, did I spam? I never felt like I was.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 01:55 GMT
#3484
Please answer, don't have to change your vote. I ask you to feel guilty though.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 01:57 GMT
#3487
Again with the day 1 though. I kinda got fucked over by the cross and hapa shenanigans. But did I spam?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 01:58 GMT
#3489
Like, I kind of got insulted on a personal level, people saying my posts are useless TT
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 01:59 GMT
#3492
I realize. I think my day 1 just differs from others. I'd like to talk about it in post game. Learned a lot this game, like last.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 01:59 GMT
#3493
On November 21 2012 10:58 iamperfection wrote:
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On November 21 2012 10:58 Clarity_nl wrote:
Like, I kind of got insulted on a personal level, people saying my posts are useless TT

you can take things personally in this game


I know I know. It was just a kneejerk gut feeling. It didn't really linger, but lasted long enough for me to go overboard on the defense.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 02:00 GMT
#3495
That's just rude, lmao
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 02:05 GMT
#3499
GG YO GL TOWN!!!!
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 02:06 GMT
#3500
/obs
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 22 2012 18:27 GMT
#3752
GG guys, I apologize on my "djo is the 4th town" at the 11th hour, that was dumb.
If anyone has any advice I will gladly take it.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 22 2012 18:33 GMT
#3753
I stand by my opinion that last minute shenanigans are bad, at least they're bad for me trying to improve.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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