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The amount of self-guiltiness you show is over 9000 | ||
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On November 05 2012 10:01 sylverfyre wrote: My chance following cheesecake voting debears? If cheese flips town, it's clarity or debears. Probably both. If that is not a big scumtell | ||
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I'm waiting for your case against me ^^ Bring it on ! | ||
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Regarding sylverfyre slips, I'm going to discard them. I don't think they are a good indication of sylverfyre being scum because he does them all the time. I'll try to check his filter last game to see if I can find some matching cases. Regarding me blending in, I don't think it's true. I've dropped a FoS on Cheese early game that caught a lot of attention and my case on Clarity was not based on nit-picking but on his general behavior. | ||
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On November 05 2012 07:59 Clarity_nl wrote: <snip> @ Rad He's being accused of the same things I am, if I argue for/against Cheese it'll all be major WIFOM Just a remark, if you accuse someone for doing the same thing that you are doing. It's not WIFOM, it's being a hypocrite and having double standards. | ||
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On November 05 2012 08:32 Clarity_nl wrote: I can do that too. I don't wanna pay for no porn man. I don't think that saying that proves anything, can't make an assumption based on the host's behavior. Cheese why did you claim VT? On November 05 2012 08:45 marvellosity wrote: To stop any shenannies - every player in the game knows the VT role PM. On November 05 2012 08:58 Clarity_nl wrote: I didn't want to assume things. I didn't know that either but I had considered it much earlier. I noticed the OP is different from my PM role. I don't like Clarity early reaction to Cheese claim. Among Rad, debears and Clarity, he is the only one to doubt Cheese's claim before Marv post. I think that Clarity is mafia and had the information beforehand (the information that the VT role PM was dispatched to everybody). | ||
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On November 05 2012 14:41 debears wrote: @Rad and Djo What do you think of the mini case I recently made on Sylver for not voting his top scumread? @ debears You have a point but I don't think that it is that relevant. Sylver tried to vote you but there was obviously no momentum to get you lynched today. He was then convinced that Cheese and you was the scumteam and, at that moment, Cheese could be lynched. I think you were his primary target but he went for his secondary target instead because he couldn't get you lynched. I kind of did the same thing. I wanted a Clarity lynch and it almost happened but then Alsn made his case, Cheese claimed and said On November 05 2012 08:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Confirmed clarity as VT btw. so this on top of my previous suspicion on Cheese made me think that Clarity and Cheese was the scumteam. I've made the stupidest mistake ever, the association case without flip information. After that, there was no more momentum for a Clarity lynch so I also went for my secondary target. I would like your input on two points
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On November 05 2012 15:10 Rad wrote: Djo, he explained himself pretty clearly, and what he said is true. @ Rad Did you imagine one single instant that marv has sent the VT role flavor also to the mafia members ? I didn't, Cheese didn't and debears didn't. So why would have Clarity such doubts ? | ||
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No, I'm just saying that your reaction to the claim differed from Cheese and debears reaction to the claim and that Clarity one was also different. From your behavior, I understand that you want to protect the blues, but Clarity behavior was different and especially suspicious because he didn't have a strong scumread on Cheese beforehand. Cheese was one of the guy having not answered his question on the list but Clarity had nothing else against him so he wasn't suspicious in his eyes. I find it quite convenient that he starts to get suspicious of Cheese just after Alsn case (Cheese was showing almost the same behavior as himself by the way) when he is on the verge of being lynched. When you take this into account, I don't see why Clarity would have doubted Cheese claim like this. | ||
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He is most certainly scum ! @ Rad Did you see how he avoided to discuss with me after this post + Show Spoiler + On November 04 2012 17:29 Djodref wrote: Wouldn't you mind to discuss what you have against me right now ? I'm going to have to sleep before the deadline and I don't want to have to defend your case against me while waking up and catching the thread. Plus it's going to be likely that I need to decide my vote at this time so I would prefer to focus on analysis rather than defense at that time. I find it odd that you don't want to go after Cheese as well. He should be looking quite scummy in your eyes right now because he didn't answer your question. Also, if I want to sum up his contribution so far, he is just tunneling me after an OMGUSy FoS on me. If we have a jailer, I would like him to block Clarity. If we have a cop, I would like him to invest someone esle (because of framer). If we have a medic, I wouldn't mind protection for the night. | ||
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You are right but this kind of reasoning could lead us into a WIFOM hell. In my honest opinion, Clarity is very likely to be scum, so a possible jailkeeper would have good chances to prevent him from killing. Maybe the mafia is going to listen to me as well and use the other member to carry the night kill, maybe they are going to use Clarity anyway, maybe I'm totally wrong and Clarity is town. I don't know and I don't even know if we have a jailkeeper but I would say that it's the best thing for him to do. Anyway, it's down to the jailkeeper decision (if he exists), he could also decide to jail me to give me protection. I wouldn't mind this  | ||
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On November 05 2012 16:01 Rad wrote: <snip> Your consistency is terrible. So you can do it but clarity can't? He at least told you that he had a case against you but he doesn't want to discuss it. I've already shown I have issues with his decision and I pushed for him to post it. But you just spit out "I might have a case, it'll be a surprise!" How is that better than clarity? I can't wait for both of your cases! They'll be so enjoyable, especially yours, cause I have no idea who the hell you're wanting to target but you think it's worth keeping secret. I recommend no blues listen to any of djo's suggestions at the moment. @ Rad There is a big difference between day and night. During the day, we should not retain any information because we need the maximum to get a correct lynch. During the night, the mafia team is deciding who to kill and they should prioritize the players which are on their tracks. So I think it's ok not to tell right now who would be my secondary target because I might die for it. Do you see the difference ? | ||
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Usually the scum team decides which player is going to carry the night actions. Any of them two could carry the KP but they have to choose one of them. If there is a framer, could the goon carry the framing action ? If there is a roleblocker, could the goon carry the RB ?[/green][/b] | ||
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