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da0ud
Hong Kong252 Posts
On November 04 2012 00:58 Clarity_nl wrote: Yes, but WHY do you like Debears's case more? Specifics! Please stop being so vague da0ud. You don't have a lot of posts but all of them are basically "I agree with you" or "I don't agree with you" | ||
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da0ud
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On November 04 2012 13:19 debears wrote: @Dau0d Nice. We can have some fun now  What input do you have on the my cases on Sylver and Rad? I have already commented on your case against Sylver and i think it does not really stand as proving his is scum. I can see some town paranoia behind it from you but not so much of scum tell on him from your case. Your case on Rad : Not too sure about your first three points (Thread cop mentality, Talking about last game, Excuse for not making reads for 1st half of d1). I am a bit confused and the last point on his excuse seems fair enough. Your last point has more taken the direction of a scum read on you rather than a scum tell on him. It would have been easy for him to give a damn percentage but it would not have brought us anywhere. 30, 40, 45% so what ? Your acharnement on getting the number fills up on more page in your filter. The most interesting point in your case is the 180 change on tone with you. This is a bit odd indeed because it was clear to me you were not trying to put him down and a bit of coaching can always help. | ||
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da0ud
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I definitely agree on two points of your accusation Djo : the blending in part. On November 04 2012 05:02 Clarity_nl wrote: Although caution can be a good thing Rad, you should be careful. If you don't have enough information to make a read make sure to get more information. Reading these two sentences over and over again keep making me laugh. The second point is : On November 04 2012 14:07 Djodref wrote: By the way, you have failed to put pressure on me or Alsn, but we were your scum reads. Not much to add on this one. I would like to be a bit less aggressive on the vote against me. It is suspicious indeed when you, Djodref, told him the reason why I was not present. He still voted for me but I think it is in order to catch my attention to reply to his direct attacks against me. I did reply to him so let see what he has to say before me being over aggressive towards his vote against me. He definitely lies towards the scummy type though. | ||
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da0ud
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On November 04 2012 14:14 Djodref wrote: The deadline is 9am HKT. It is possible for you to catch up wen you arrive at work or are you too busy in the mornings ? Really tough, I am usually really busy from 8am to 11am when most of the markets in asia do open. Afterwards it is calmer. The only way for me to catch up as best as i can is to wake up earlier. But as I said before I am afraid that it will take too long if there is another batch of 10 pages to read. | ||
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da0ud
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On November 04 2012 15:00 sylverfyre wrote: daoud: I find it interesting that da0ud is tunneling Clarity for voting him when he was asleep, but not debears. debears/da0ud interaction: I find it interesting that debears felt the need to vote da0ud when da0ud is already being called out. (And he dropped his vote on me in order to do it) Sorry but I think i have been tunelling more Debears on it than Clarity. If you look back, my vote (at the moment) stands on Debears for that matter | ||
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da0ud
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On November 04 2012 17:32 Clarity_nl wrote: EBWOP Da0ud is my lynch candidate right now though. But I think making a case for him isn't even necessary, he needs to show up and be around to ask questions, rather than address them half-heartedly and disapear again. Sorry to appear half hearted to you but D1 has always appeared very random to me. Most of the cases come from nitpicking or someone contradicting himself. Moreover on the weekends I don't have too much time to write structured cases on other people because real life stuff take over. I count on doing real cases on D2 if I am still alive. The good thing about it is that we will have some real information at that point: interaction with the one lynched D1 and the one NK1. D2 Will take place Tuesday Wednesday, perfect timing at work to write cases when I am bored in the afternoon. | ||
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da0ud
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I have not made a real case on someone yet, this I agree. Earlier I pointed out that Djodref mentioned "re-reading" the thread (sorry for sheeping on this one I had not seen that someone else pointed it out before). This time I want to emphasize the fact that you said "I will ask Hapa" for some piece of advice rather than my coach. This screams scum to me trying to blend in by mentioning the name of the town team's coach. | ||
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da0ud
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On November 04 2012 18:30 Clarity_nl wrote: Da0ud please give us your top reads right now. My scum-ish reads at the moment would be you (clarity), djodref and debears. I am pretty null on CC and Sylver. Pretty town vibe on rad and alsn at the moment. Obzy I have to read his filter. On the top of my head he has not posted so very much and has not been part of major arguments. Ps: sorry if poor formatting or spelling mistakes I am phone posting. | ||
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da0ud
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He has not dug any huge holes in anybody's argumentation but he feels concerned and sincere. Same has with djo I don't really like that he keeps empasizing on the fact that he is rereading the thread or will be at any period in time. So small FoS on you Obsy here. As a conclusion, I will but you somewhere null to town at the moment. | ||
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da0ud
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He is still in my top3 list of who I would consder lynching. Just the argument at the time for voting him because he voted me while I was asleep and not able to defend myself (even though contradictory with his earlier against sylver) is not strong enough. Unvote | ||
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Otherwise I will wake up tomorrow morning at 6am and read the thread and hopefully can vote in accordance to where this discussion goes. But I am not sure this will be doable and I might end up ninja-ing. If one of my top 3 scum-ish reads is set for being lynched that might be easier choice but still... | ||
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da0ud
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Point 3 is not that strong an argument as I have not made cases either and even though I am town as opposed to what you say it is pretty hard for me to make a very decent case right now, that even myself wouldnt be able to contradict. But as opposed to me he said he will make cases, which he has avoided making. Point 4 is a bit light to me, meta is meta and it can evolve. Just look how Djo has played so differently in all his games so far. There is a lot a red to emphasize you case though. Pretty convincing. | ||
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da0ud
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Clarity are you here to defend yourself ? Mr CC, can you add anything on this case ? or do you have any other to support ? | ||
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da0ud
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As you mentioned in your conclusion I will directly be looking for Clarity's response to Djo, Debears accusations and yours now. If he does not properly do it, if i find other scummy tells in his defense I will definitely vote him. One reason I dont case my vote now is that as you mentioned as well, the other two or my trio of scummish reads are suspecting him, Hence there must be something fishy. I am pretty convinced at least one of them is scum though. As a conclusion, i will be looking closely at Debears and Djodref as well in order to make my choice tomorrow morning. | ||
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da0ud
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On November 05 2012 00:21 debears wrote: @Dau0d In the clarity case, the most important part is point 1 and 2. Points 3 and 4 go along with it. Also, on point 4, meta is meta and can change. But does personality change? You gotta remember. Clarity was the one modkilled for sending out a pm eager to discuss reads, yet he hasn't really been discussing reads all game True, I had forgotten he got modkilled last time for PMing on his reads, I was the one getting back his roll as Jailkeeper from VT ^^ | ||
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@ Djo : Are you sill arround or will you only be able to catch-up with the thread tomorrow morning right before lynch ? If things happen during the night in Asia, are you comfortable with keeping your vote on Clarity ? | ||
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da0ud
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Mods, may i have a vote count ? | ||
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