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Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 05 2012 17:00 GMT
#1094
On November 06 2012 01:52 Clarity_nl wrote:
No, I tried to stop him from saying that because if he did, as town, it would be moronic. And as you pointed out, I was starting to doubt my case on debears.
Do you really not see a scum motive for Cheese pointing me out as "confirmed town"

Again, you seem to think I had special information after marv posted that everyone knows VT flavor, but I didn't, you were just as informed as I was. We all voted for Cheese.

Show nested quote +
Town Clarity has forgot Cheese for a while

No, I was just kinda busy answering 1001 questions from you and debears. I was busy defending myself.


@ Clarity

Are you trying to deny your responsibility in the lynch ? Daoud did not vote for Cheese because he really believed that debears was scum...

I have explained my reasons for lynching Cheese. I was being stupid but at least it makes some sense. I don't understand how you could not recognize that he was town and genuinely believing in the power of the VT flavor.
How could you believe he was scum ?

The only reason I see is that you were mafia and too happy to see a possibility to escape your lynch to think straight.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 05 2012 17:01 GMT
#1095
On November 06 2012 00:51 Djodref wrote:
@ Clarity

What did you exactly ask marv and when ?
<snip>
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 05 2012 17:06 GMT
#1098
On November 06 2012 02:02 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2012 02:01 Djodref wrote:
On November 06 2012 00:51 Djodref wrote:
@ Clarity

What did you exactly ask marv and when ?
<snip>


Ask me again in the morning. Stop blue hunting and stop telling blues what to do.


@ Clarity

After a post like this, the only possibility for you to be alive tomorrow morning is being mafia.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 05 2012 17:20 GMT
#1104
@ Alsn and Rad

What do you think about a Clarity lynch tomorrow ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 05 2012 17:32 GMT
#1109
@ Clarity

Could you at least tell me when you asked marv your question ?
I'm only asking for when right now ^^
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 05 2012 17:43 GMT
#1110
On November 06 2012 02:01 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2012 02:00 Djodref wrote:
On November 06 2012 01:52 Clarity_nl wrote:
No, I tried to stop him from saying that because if he did, as town, it would be moronic. And as you pointed out, I was starting to doubt my case on debears.
Do you really not see a scum motive for Cheese pointing me out as "confirmed town"

Again, you seem to think I had special information after marv posted that everyone knows VT flavor, but I didn't, you were just as informed as I was. We all voted for Cheese.

Town Clarity has forgot Cheese for a while

No, I was just kinda busy answering 1001 questions from you and debears. I was busy defending myself.


@ Clarity

Are you trying to deny your responsibility in the lynch ? Daoud did not vote for Cheese because he really believed that debears was scum...

I have explained my reasons for lynching Cheese. I was being stupid but at least it makes some sense. I don't understand how you could not recognize that he was town and genuinely believing in the power of the VT flavor.
How could you believe he was scum ?

The only reason I see is that you were mafia and too happy to see a possibility to escape your lynch to think straight.


I was already safe from lynching before I switched.


@ Clarity

Ok, that's cool, if you were safe when you switched, it's sure that your vote did not mean anything.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 05 2012 17:49 GMT
#1111
I'm going to bed guys...
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 05 2012 18:04 GMT
#1113
On November 06 2012 02:13 Clarity_nl wrote:
@ Obzy

The reason I asked marv before Cheese claiming was because I noticed what Cheese did. The OP Townie does not match with the PM townie. The PM townie flavor is in every PM. How do you conclude from this that I am blue or scum?


@ Clarity

What did you notice ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 06 2012 00:18 GMT
#1129
On November 03 2012 21:23 Clarity_nl wrote:
Where did I make a list? Unless you're talking about my reads on everyone, which I don't see can ever be a bad thing.
You are the one who pointed out that it is a plurality lynch, and that we should not focus too deeply on a select few.
My "list" forces everyone to comment on it, and perhaps gain insight on others through my observations or sees a flaw in my logic and helps me out by pointing it out.

Yeah, I've read that lists are generally a mafia tell, or newbie town, but this is only the case if they do not contribute.
Are you saying that my post will not contribute?


@ Alsn

Please check his very post in response to my advice. If the part in bold is not denial, please tell me what do you think it is.

Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 06 2012 00:36 GMT
#1131
Ok, I'll give my comments on your Sylver case. Remember that obvious scum is usually town...
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 06 2012 00:55 GMT
#1132
I'm very disappointed that no one have taken a look on the guy who provoked Cheese mislynch.
This is the first mention of Cheese in Alsn filter as far as I know.


Lynch - 10H -> no mention of Cheese
On November 05 2012 00:16 Alsn wrote:
<snip>

That being said, at the very least I have a good idea of what I need to be looking at today. Clarity, Djod, debears. I'm also going to look into sylver because I had some suspicions against him before I went to sleep but I must have missed whether or not he contradicted or reinforced those suspicions of mine when I just read through the thread.



Lynch - 4H -> starts to show attention to Cheese
On November 05 2012 05:25 Alsn wrote:
Actually, make that last post of mine @Cheese too.


And the best part is that, 2 hours later, Alsn came to us with a concise case which allows him to point Cheese as scum. Alsn shows confidence in his read of Cheese. The time it took to decide that Cheese was scum, the size of his post, the confidence he shows. All these points don't fir Alsn's town meta.

On November 05 2012 07:05 Alsn wrote:
In fact, I'm inclined to vote Cheese over Clarity at this point as most likely to be scum. I still think there are good points made against clarity, but mostly they are inconsistencies or weird logic(such as the latest one pointed out by debears) and I don't think being inconsistent is necessarily a scum tell. Not keeping track of your own thoughts seems to me to be a town tell(since townies are not that concerned with keeping their story straight).

Why I think Mr. Cheesecake is scum
  • For avoiding attention and skating by other than to discredit an attacker against himself.
  • Stating again and again that Djodref is his top scum read, yet not even seeming remotely interested in pushing a Djod lynch.
  • Being suggestive about other people's behaviour as scummy, yet not seeming to believe it himself.


##Vote: Mr. Cheesecake





I think that he also uses double-standards while voting Cheese over Clarity. Cheese was more consistent than Clarity in his follow-ups and did not avoid discussion. For the rest of the points, they are common to both players.

  • For avoiding attention and skating by other than to discredit an attacker against himself. Clarity let other people do the pressure on his read for him. Please remember that you have to establish your innocence as town. Why did he not do this ?
  • Stating again and again that Djodref is his top scum read, yet not even seeming remotely interested in pushing a Djod lynch. Where is Clarity fucking case against me ?
  • Being suggestive about other people's behaviour as scummy, yet not seeming to believe it himself. I have no example in mind right now, I'll try to find something


@ Alsn

Why Cheese over Clarity ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 06 2012 00:57 GMT
#1133
If Clarity claims tomorrow, this is going to be a fakeclaim

I'm 99% of this. If I die, I'll hope you understand that the claim is fake.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 06 2012 00:57 GMT
#1134
Dandel Ion fakeclaim => never forget
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 06 2012 00:59 GMT
#1137
Ok, this was dramatic. He started the bandwagon at least ^^
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 06 2012 01:04 GMT
#1142
gg debears
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 06 2012 01:06 GMT
#1143
@ Clarity

Wouldn't you mind being more explicit right now ? You promised me something for the beginning of D2
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 06 2012 01:11 GMT
#1149
On November 06 2012 10:03 Rad wrote:
Wow scum, you couldn't read that debears was a VT? LOL. Why do you think he high fived cheese?


@ Rad

The mafia priority is not blue sniping. Debears was a good choice...
While being active and all, debears was kind of a town leader, even if he was controversial. Him being gone makes life easier for scum.
Also, we can make some assumptions
  • mafia wanted to frame sylver
  • You and/or sylver are in the mafia team and you wanted debears gone
  • mafia wanted to frame the people suspicious of debears


Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 06 2012 01:14 GMT
#1151
On November 06 2012 10:03 Rad wrote:
Wow scum, you couldn't read that debears was a VT? LOL. Why do you think he high fived cheese?


@ Rad

Can I ask you who you expected to die ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 06 2012 01:19 GMT
#1152
On November 06 2012 10:13 Rad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2012 10:11 Djodref wrote:
On November 06 2012 10:03 Rad wrote:
Wow scum, you couldn't read that debears was a VT? LOL. Why do you think he high fived cheese?


@ Rad

The mafia priority is not blue sniping. Debears was a good choice...
While being active and all, debears was kind of a town leader, even if he was controversial. Him being gone makes life easier for scum.
Also, we can make some assumptions
  • mafia wanted to frame sylver
  • You and/or sylver are in the mafia team and you wanted debears gone
  • mafia wanted to frame the people suspicious of debears




Feeling stupid, scum?


@ Rad

I'm not scum and I've been mafia before you so I'm not surprised at debears death at all. And I kind of knew he was VT given his reaction to Cheese claim. In fact, there is a lot of people that I lean VT on given the way they reacted to Cheese claim. Clarity is none of them, I cannot tell the same for Alsn and you.

I would say right now that daoud and Obzy have good chances to be town.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 06 2012 01:21 GMT
#1153
EBWOP: Clarity is none of them and I can tell the same for you and Alsn.

Sylverfyre is an enigma by the way but I know right now that his slips were not scumslips.
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