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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 14 2012 01:21 GMT
#1901
So, DP Kush Thrawn and Fuba how do you feel about what Release has been doing? Still going to lynch him obviously but do you read him as townier or scummier for these giant cases he is making?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
November 14 2012 02:01 GMT
#1902
I'm still going through thrawn's filter (sorry I'm so slow, I'm not even sure I'll be adding much to what DP said), but I'm not sure what to think from Release's big cases. He hasn't given up despite the fact that we've made it clear that we're lynching him, which initially made me inch back towards town. The problem is that scum would probably do that as well. The situation feels similar to when I switched off of drazak earlier this game. The fact that I know his entire case against me is incorrect doesn't make me sway either way, as I think it could be made by town or scum. I guess a summary would be... initially townish, but in the end null.
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
November 14 2012 02:02 GMT
#1903
I read release townier. Why would scum waste their time making cases like this if they are going to die and the game is going to end anyway?

Thrawn.. the thing about thrawn is why would scum claim that I'm green like that. At that time there was 0 heat on thrawn. Why would he effectively remove the heat off me at a time when there was a lot?
Then again there was not a lot of risk involved because I made it very clear that I was vt. Even so why would he clear me?
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 14 2012 02:10 GMT
#1904
Wonderful, now that you have all posted your thoughts you get to see this post that I started to write yesterday. Feel free to argue with me. I like a good argument.

Now, I don't think that release is scum anymore. His play doesn't reflect scum mindset and his refusal to concede when I made it clear he was getting lynched is a point in his favour because he is 100% not the last scum (this is why I said that he should concede so many times). He may be scum but if he is he is not the only one. Therefore:
## Unvote
##Vote: Thrawn2112

If thrawn does not reappear I am more concerned about him than I am about Release. I have gotten scummy vibes off of Thrawn much of the game and I assume that his scum goal is to reach lylo with Kush, his early gambit makes that an unlosable situation for him.

I have been planning this vote switch for a while and I think that it will win us the game. Come with me, vote Thrawn. We don't deserve to lose to scum play this bad.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
November 14 2012 02:17 GMT
#1905
On November 12 2012 17:27 thrawn2112 wrote:
mmm i don't think i like a release lynch. i'm having the same issues with it now as I did before.. he's way too open with his thought processes for me to think he;'s scum


##unvote
##vote thrawn2112

OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
November 14 2012 02:18 GMT
#1906
He is in another game so that could be a reason for being afk. keep that in mind
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 14 2012 02:24 GMT
#1907
On November 14 2012 10:21 Promethelax wrote:
So, DP Kush Thrawn and Fuba how do you feel about what Release has been doing? Still going to lynch him obviously but do you read him as townier or scummier for these giant cases he is making?


I didn't like the tone of his cases. It looked like he was just going through filters pointing out anything that could be interpreted as scummy and he wasn't really clear about exactly how scummy he thought either of his subjects were. kush if you remember, it looks like the cases jacob was making at the end of that newbie when you two were scum. They aren't actual cases, just lists of things that could be interpreted as scummy.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
November 14 2012 02:29 GMT
#1908
^ scumlurking lol
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
November 14 2012 02:31 GMT
#1909
One thing I don't like about thrawn scum though...why would Elmer Fudd (drazak) and Bugs Bunny (thrawn) be on the same team?!
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 14 2012 02:32 GMT
#1910
i think I want to lynch mkfuba. Every point in this game where I've thought about lynching release, I always hit a roadblock because he is extremely open with his thought process and it's be really difficult to keep that up as scum

On November 14 2012 11:01 mkfuba07 wrote:
I'm still going through thrawn's filter (sorry I'm so slow, I'm not even sure I'll be adding much to what DP said), but I'm not sure what to think from Release's big cases. He hasn't given up despite the fact that we've made it clear that we're lynching him, which initially made me inch back towards town. The problem is that scum would probably do that as well. The situation feels similar to when I switched off of drazak earlier this game. The fact that I know his entire case against me is incorrect doesn't make me sway either way, as I think it could be made by town or scum. I guess a summary would be... initially townish, but in the end null.


This is en extremely wish washy post... all I really get from it is that you think release might be a null read.

I'm really doubting the high number of blues we have, and on top of what I've already said before about fuba, his claim is the hardest to accept. He only claimed a role that makes him responsible for 1 roleblock, and there could be any number of reasons why a scum fuba would have known that it would be a safe claim to make. The breadcrumb was basically non existent.

Also, wtf kush I thought you thought I was town all game long... this is how easily you're willing to switch your vote?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
November 14 2012 02:37 GMT
#1911
On November 14 2012 10:16 Promethelax wrote:
I hadn't considered that, thanks DP. Switching off of Draz when I have been beating myself up for not noticing that scum slip seems pretty off.

How do you feel about Thrawn's check on Kush. What does it tell you about both of them?


There was actually some things I wrote about it in my case originally but I removed a fair amount of it. I will see if I can find it.

There is no name in the breadcrumb so it would be able to be altered to whoever he fuck he pleased which is a big problem. Breadcrumbs are almost useless without a name of your check.jail because then you cannot be held accountable if things change.

If he had bread-crumbed Risk say with a green check then he would have been fucked. but if you leave no name then you can alter things when you eventually do claim and you have more info.

As it stands he was pretty wishy washy on kush but then in the night decides h is scum and then claims 1-shot cop first thing. Which makes sense if he was town. So meh. I don;t think it says too much unless there are 4 scum. then kush and thrawn is looking super good. But I am unsure how likely that is.

The one odd thing I found about his claim

On November 06 2012 07:54 thrawn2112 wrote:
kush are you really not considering that a scum could just make up a inanimate object and claim vt with it? i really don't see why you are leaning so strongly on this unconfirmed flavor theory that scum can just manipulate by claiming well.

like it's so hard for me to accept that you're playing the game based on that theroy that i'm starting to doubt the accuracy of my check


This is a really odd thing to say. It makes me feel as if thrawn was concerned he had fake claimed on the serial killer as kush increasingly seemed to be a candidate for such a role.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
November 14 2012 02:42 GMT
#1912
On November 14 2012 11:32 thrawn2112 wrote:
Also, wtf kush I thought you thought I was town all game long... this is how easily you're willing to switch your vote?


Trust those who seek the truth, but doubt those who say they have found it. - hot chick from Dexter

You are scum makes a lot of things make sense about this game. The pieces of the puzzle started to fall in place as soon as I considered it.
What had me so convinced you were town is how you claimed I was green. This is like the ultimate buddying, and it worked quite well on me. But the thing is you KNEW I was VT, so there was no risk in calling me vt.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
November 14 2012 02:44 GMT
#1913
NB: Thrawn has faked breadcrumbs in the past. (when he got SK in a newbie game)
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
November 14 2012 02:49 GMT
#1914
I'm inclined to agree with a thrawn over a Release lynch. But It would be fucking hilarious if release actually was scum and WIFOM'd us out of it perfectly.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
November 14 2012 02:50 GMT
#1915
On November 14 2012 11:42 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 11:32 thrawn2112 wrote:
Also, wtf kush I thought you thought I was town all game long... this is how easily you're willing to switch your vote?


Trust those who seek the truth, but doubt those who say they have found it. - hot chick from Dexter

You are scum makes a lot of things make sense about this game. The pieces of the puzzle started to fall in place as soon as I considered it.
What had me so convinced you were town is how you claimed I was green. This is like the ultimate buddying, and it worked quite well on me. But the thing is you KNEW I was VT, so there was no risk in calling me vt.


He didn't even need to know you were VT. He just had to know you weren't SK which was pretty clear if from your flavour theory if he knows you are not scum.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
November 14 2012 03:06 GMT
#1916
On November 14 2012 11:32 thrawn2112 wrote:
i think I want to lynch mkfuba. Every point in this game where I've thought about lynching release, I always hit a roadblock because he is extremely open with his thought process and it's be really difficult to keep that up as scum

Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 11:01 mkfuba07 wrote:
I'm still going through thrawn's filter (sorry I'm so slow, I'm not even sure I'll be adding much to what DP said), but I'm not sure what to think from Release's big cases. He hasn't given up despite the fact that we've made it clear that we're lynching him, which initially made me inch back towards town. The problem is that scum would probably do that as well. The situation feels similar to when I switched off of drazak earlier this game. The fact that I know his entire case against me is incorrect doesn't make me sway either way, as I think it could be made by town or scum. I guess a summary would be... initially townish, but in the end null.


This is en extremely wish washy post... all I really get from it is that you think release might be a null read.

I'm really doubting the high number of blues we have, and on top of what I've already said before about fuba, his claim is the hardest to accept. He only claimed a role that makes him responsible for 1 roleblock, and there could be any number of reasons why a scum fuba would have known that it would be a safe claim to make. The breadcrumb was basically non existent.

Also, wtf kush I thought you thought I was town all game long... this is how easily you're willing to switch your vote?

I see nothing wrong with my post. It explains my reasoning. His cases had little impact on my thoughts of him.

How is my claim the hardest to accept? My claim leaves an indication that something has happened. I said I jailed prome, and prome was roleblocked and didn't die, which I maintain was a likelihood N2. This is supported by the fact that there were 0 deaths. Your claim is impossible to verify at all. You crumbed a role that you could fakeclaim as scum with no possible downside unless you claim the bulletproof sk is town, and which leaves no evidence that anyone did anything. If I was scum roleblocker, why would I claim 1-shot jailer? It doesn't make any sense. Yours is the easiest fakeclaim.

You say there could be any number of reasons for scum me to know what the SK was doing N2? Please name one.

And breadcrumbs are non-indicative of alignment. Anyone can crumb anything. If I was scum planning on fakeclaiming, I'm pretty sure I'd be MORE likely to have a well-written crumb.

Anyway, I trust prome, and I trust DP. If the scum wasn't release, it would have to be thrawn. I'm up for a lynch on either. The order is irrelevant to me.

##Unvote
##Vote thrawn2112


This may be slightly motivated by a need to be right when I called thrawn scum N2.
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 14 2012 03:07 GMT
#1917
fuba: "I'm up for a lynch on either. The order is irrelevant to me."

that's bs
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
November 14 2012 03:08 GMT
#1918
On November 14 2012 11:31 kushm4sta wrote:
One thing I don't like about thrawn scum though...why would Elmer Fudd (drazak) and Bugs Bunny (thrawn) be on the same team?!

Perhaps that's why WBG said the game was unbreakable through flavor :O
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
November 14 2012 03:19 GMT
#1919
How is it bs? Aside from you and release, everyone is either guaranteed town or I'm reasonably sure that they're town. I think you both have the potential to flip scum, and we have enough days to ensure that both of you are lynched if it comes to that. It may be different for other players, since they don't have the absolute certain knowledge of my alignment that I do, but for me it's pretty much set.
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 14 2012 03:21 GMT
#1920
because town players have opinions on who they think is scummiest and deserve being lynched first. saying "order doesn't matter" suggests that your mindset for this game doesn't include worrying about mislynches
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
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