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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 10 2012 19:32 GMT
#1648
seeing as how the thread is probably gonna be slightly focused on setup theory, anyone that's been roleblocked without claiming at any point in this game should come forwards now
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 10 2012 20:08 GMT
#1650
Here is the current picture, based only on what people have claimed:

+ Show Spoiler [night actions] +
N1

acro rb prom
x rb acro
darth claim rb prom
mattchew probably roleblocked someone, don't see why he wouldn't
zealos... 1 shot, who knows

prom claims rb
acro claims rb

zealos and mattchew die

N2

acro rb release
mkfuba claim jails prom
darthpunk claim jails kush

release claim rb
mkfub claim rb
kush claim rb

no night kills

N3

dp claim jail prom
prom claim rb
acro rb risk
risk claim rb

acro dies


So, who roleblocked Acro during N1?

I don't think that either mattchew/zealos did. Zealos probably wouldn't have used his only shot on D1, and mattchew was not suspicious of not suspicious enough of Acro to rb acro. So who rb'd acro? The D1 night actions are yet another reason I have for thinking that there's a scum roleblocker. It's not confirmable and it's based on a few assumptions, but it's one of the many things that point to there being a scum rb role.

I just really wish I knew who mattchew roleblocked N1. If anyone hasn't done it already they shoudl go look for breadcrumbs zealos/mattchew's filters. I haven't found anything.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 10 2012 20:25 GMT
#1653
whatever, idgaf about this setup stuff. too many assumptions and too much missing info. plus it's no fun talking to myself about it
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 10 2012 20:47 GMT
#1654
Risk was roleblocked last night, and one person died. That means that either risk is scum, risk is sk, or risk is town and the sk didn't shoot or was roleblocked by somebody else. prom was the only other person roleblocked, but because he was roleblocked N1 that means he can't be the sk.

so that leaves 3 options: scum risk, sk risk, town risk along with an sk who didn't shoot during N3.

So who is the SK? It can't be dp or fuba, otherwise they lied about roleblocking kush/prom N2 and that would mean that kush/prom also lied about getting roleblocked. I'm not sk. Prom isn't sk because he was roleblocked N1.

SK LIST

risk
kush
release

If I had to guess at those.... kush or release as sk makes WAY more sense than risk. Kush has been bluehunting all game, and release has been acting like he's got something to hide. Out of the only 3 players who could possibly be sk, risk makes the least sense. So now I'm down to two options.... scum risk or town risk with an sk who didn't make a kill N3. I'm thinking sum risk.

BTW, If there's a town vig reading this then FUCK YOU

Right now, here is what I think happened. Risk is the last scum and was roleblocked N3. Kush is the sk and took out acro N3.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 10 2012 21:06 GMT
#1655
here's clarification in case that was hard to follow:


Risk was roleblocked. That leaves only three options.

Risk is scum and the sk killed acro
Risk is sk and scum killed acro
Risk is town and sk didn't kill for whatever reason (by choice or roleblock)

Only risk/release/kush can possibly be sk. + Show Spoiler [sk list] +
So who is the SK? It can't be dp or fuba, otherwise they lied about roleblocking kush/prom N2 and that would mean that kush/prom also lied about getting roleblocked. I'm not sk. Prom isn't sk because he was roleblocked N1.

SK LIST

risk
kush
release
risk makes the least sense out of those. The story of who roleblocked who from N3 matches up. There are two candidates who are very likely to be SK. Release and kush were both roleblocked the night no kills took place, and they have both been displaying sk-like behavior. (kush's blue hunting and release's guiltiness) I REALLY think that the sk is either release or kush. So now we get down to this:

Risk is scum and the sk killed acro
Risk is town and sk didn't kill for whatever reason (by choice or roleblock)

The story of who roleblocked who from N3 matches up. Because I think that the sk is either release OR kush, and neither of them got roleblocked during N3, then I think that the sk did in fact kill acro. Out of the three options I listed at the start of this post, there is only one left: Risk is scum and the sk killed acro.

What I think = Risk is scum and kush killed acro.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 10 2012 21:20 GMT
#1656
but if there's 3 scum and risk is scum, that means we started with 6 blues. wtf
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 10 2012 21:21 GMT
#1658
On November 11 2012 06:20 mkfuba07 wrote:
Is it possible that risk is town and scum/sk targeted prome?


yeah I think. dp claimed to jail prome
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 10 2012 21:27 GMT
#1659
f dis setup
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 11 2012 02:46 GMT
#1663
yeah i'd like to know as well

@risk your best bet is to make a case on someone that doesn't include setup speculation. or if it does include setup speculation it better be a damning case.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 11 2012 05:05 GMT
#1668
On November 11 2012 13:42 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 13:24 mkfuba07 wrote:
Wait, you think I'm scum?


No he thinks that scum would think of not claiming role block like that. So release is scummy.

I am voting for risk nuke btw. He speculated ad nauseum first on prom then on me then on Mkfuba somewhat. He is just flinging shit until something sticks. There is a wealth of information on risk and why he is scummy. Acro was convinced and made a very very strong case on him.

There is also the inescapable fact that he was role blocked and KP is missing. Combine that with Acros case and his attempts to lynch prom then Me and Fuba he looks pretty damningly guilty. I will go in depth on several further things with him after dinner. I am at my parents house for sunday dinner. So can't be online much till later.

##Vote: Risk


If you are town, then like myself you are faced with knowing that this game contains 4 confirmed blues and and 2 claimed ones. Do you have any hesitations about the unflipped blue claims, because I sure do.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 11 2012 18:30 GMT
#1697
why the change?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 11 2012 19:52 GMT
#1702
kush the prob with taking a "safe" option and voting for sk is because we don't know who is sk... based on past setup speculation we've pretty much narrowed it down to either you/risk/release. so how are we supposed to distinguish between choosing you or release for sk?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 11 2012 20:02 GMT
#1704
so the thing that most people think makes kush the sk was the vt hunting... but that whole flavor theory was based off the fact that kush was comparing claimed vt flavor names against his "own." so if we collectively decide that shooting for sk is a better option than lynching risk then I might be persuaded to vote for release.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 11 2012 20:08 GMT
#1706
I've never rolled scum but I have rolled sk. When I rolled sk, I actually did notice that I was playing a little differently than normal... I spent more time worrying about the scuminess of my posts and fearing that people would call me out. It's that same mindset that I've recognized in release's play.

But kush, what is your main reason for not thinking risk is a safe lynch? The massive amount of blue claims? I've been thinking about it, and it's not as if we have 6 real blues. I'm a 1 shot and fuba claimed 1 shot. zealos was also 1 shot.

The only problem I have with voting for risk is because I think there's probably a scum roleblocking type role, which imo would either be dp or fuba. But roleblocks can stack and we don't have full information so I'm not comfortable just lynching both fuba/dp hoping that one of them fakeclaimed.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 11 2012 20:09 GMT
#1707
On November 12 2012 05:05 Release wrote:
If the scum had fakeclaims, then why not the SK?
Surely, Kush's "own" name, to which he could be comparing the other VT names, could be his fakeclaim


Yeah I guess so. Yet another reason why I still want to lynch risk based on behavior.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 11 2012 20:13 GMT
#1709
I also think dp is town, just from reading his filter without considering a fake claim. He may not like this reasoning, but my impression of town dp is a stubborn angry guy who likes his cases and likes yelling at people who disagree. And lol, that's what I've seen this game. What I saw from scum dp in LC was a toned down version of dp who was not that stubborn.

+ Show Spoiler +
sorry dp <3
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 11 2012 21:28 GMT
#1711
##unvote
##vote mkfuba
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 11 2012 21:50 GMT
#1714
1: This game has a ridiculous amount of blues
2: I thought you were convinced that I was scum. You changed you mind citing that my breadcrumb was good but in your original case against me, the breadcrumb was something you had major issues with
3: You're voting risk based off of process of elimination
4: You claim/breadcrumb was... not good.
6: The game's more interesting this way
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 11 2012 21:52 GMT
#1715
7: You have a tiny filter and your biggest posts have been defenses of yourself, or a case against me which you went back on.. I'd like to hear more about your read on me
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 11 2012 21:54 GMT
#1716
i'm breaking out an ouija board and i'm gonna summon acro's spirit while i read his case against risk, i suggest everyone else do the same
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
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