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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
November 01 2012 04:13 GMT
#161
....hey
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
November 01 2012 04:14 GMT
#162
On November 01 2012 13:09 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 13:07 Release wrote:
Sounds like bait from Muso. Wants me to push the agenda with which i have already parted.

Muso...


WTF are you talking about. You realise that if he was scum trying to mislynch you with a fake mason claim that would be almost as retarded as claiming unaware nosy neighbour right?

well honestly i have no idea at all what he is trying to do. Just threw out the only thing pertinent to such a claim right now.
☺
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
November 01 2012 04:17 GMT
#163
On November 01 2012 13:14 Release wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 13:09 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 01 2012 13:07 Release wrote:
Sounds like bait from Muso. Wants me to push the agenda with which i have already parted.

Muso...


WTF are you talking about. You realise that if he was scum trying to mislynch you with a fake mason claim that would be almost as retarded as claiming unaware nosy neighbour right?

well honestly i have no idea at all what he is trying to do. Just threw out the only thing pertinent to such a claim right now.


The only pertinent thing is how you are being set up by his retarded mason claim?!?!? Such inherent guilt. My god.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
November 01 2012 04:18 GMT
#164
On November 01 2012 13:17 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 13:14 Release wrote:
On November 01 2012 13:09 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 01 2012 13:07 Release wrote:
Sounds like bait from Muso. Wants me to push the agenda with which i have already parted.

Muso...


WTF are you talking about. You realise that if he was scum trying to mislynch you with a fake mason claim that would be almost as retarded as claiming unaware nosy neighbour right?

well honestly i have no idea at all what he is trying to do. Just threw out the only thing pertinent to such a claim right now.


The only pertinent thing is how you are being set up by his retarded mason claim?!?!? Such inherent guilt. My god.

What? I claimed earlier that kush was trying to get people to claim mason.

Magically, a mason claim appears. "Go, Release, Go!" says Muso. "You can go get him."
☺
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
November 01 2012 04:19 GMT
#165
Let's stop talking about this (Muso) until Muso himself replies.

Feel free to rag on me though.
☺
Muso
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia16 Posts
November 01 2012 04:25 GMT
#166
Oh sorry guys I didn't know there was a difference between Mason and Miller.

I know I said I'd played hundreds of mafia games before but I actually lied just to get in to the game. This is my first one, but I watched a few youtube videos so I thin I get it.

Sorry if I'm bad :S
Mafia 1st and last
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
November 01 2012 04:28 GMT
#167
On November 01 2012 12:16 DarthPunk wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Sup Guys. Just caught up with the thread. So I have a town read on Kush, Unless he has put a great deal of effort into shifting his meta he is playing his town meta this game. So unless something drastic changes I guess that this is the first time I will not be gunning for you buddy. ^_^

If you are a miller you should claim. But I will be wary of such a claim as there have been times in the past in which an uncontested miller claim day one has sealed the win for scum. So we should exercise our judgement on such claims rather than put blind faith on their townieness.

From my first read through Release is looking suspicious. Firstly he is tunnelling townie kush, although he may be unaware of kush's meta he has a scum read over something which is at worst a null tell.
Secondly his posting feels off somehow this post in particular is scummy as shit.


Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 11:20 Release wrote:
Do not use this post later to claim that i am shifting attention off myself. I acknowledge that I am under suspicion.

So in the flurry of comment regarding the claiming, we seem to have dismissed the possibility of enacting a Lynch-all-liars policy. The main con i see if we do enact it is that we can't pull use fishing for reactions as freely. The main pro, however, is that people can't claim to be fishing for reactions. Another consequence is that more information is in the thread. Both town and mafia know more about true intentions and can react accordingly.

Personally, i am against such a policy because people can very easily say "i changed my mind" and blame/vindication will tend to be imposed base on a town/scum flip.


So after acknowledging that this post is a distraction from the suspicions on himself he attempts to create a tangent discussion on policy. And he proposes a lynch all liars policy that he talks about for a good deal and then decides he is against?

It was fluffy and served to distract the thread from pursuing him. Claiming that you are not doing that does not cause it to be untrue, rather it speaks as if he was guilty of doing EXACTLY THAT.

I did not acknowledge that this post was a distraction. I merely stated that it was not relevant to my being hammered for seemingly scummy actions. However, according to your logic, this (and tacitly implied, everything else not relevant to my being hammered) is a distraction, and therefore the only things that won't be distractions are things that ONLY tunnel me.

Is that your train of thought? or are you putting words in my mouth?
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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 01 2012 04:28 GMT
#168
On November 01 2012 13:25 Muso wrote:
Oh sorry guys I didn't know there was a difference between Mason and Miller


lol

So you're both mason and miller or what lol
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Muso
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia16 Posts
November 01 2012 04:41 GMT
#169
I am a mason, I didn't know there was a miller too
Mafia 1st and last
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
November 01 2012 04:57 GMT
#170
On November 01 2012 13:25 Muso wrote:
Oh sorry guys I didn't know there was a difference between Mason and Miller.

I know I said I'd played hundreds of mafia games before but I actually lied just to get in to the game. This is my first one, but I watched a few youtube videos so I thin I get it.

Sorry if I'm bad :S

We have newbie games you know.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
November 01 2012 05:03 GMT
#171
On November 01 2012 13:28 Release wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 12:16 DarthPunk wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Sup Guys. Just caught up with the thread. So I have a town read on Kush, Unless he has put a great deal of effort into shifting his meta he is playing his town meta this game. So unless something drastic changes I guess that this is the first time I will not be gunning for you buddy. ^_^

If you are a miller you should claim. But I will be wary of such a claim as there have been times in the past in which an uncontested miller claim day one has sealed the win for scum. So we should exercise our judgement on such claims rather than put blind faith on their townieness.

From my first read through Release is looking suspicious. Firstly he is tunnelling townie kush, although he may be unaware of kush's meta he has a scum read over something which is at worst a null tell.
Secondly his posting feels off somehow this post in particular is scummy as shit.


On November 01 2012 11:20 Release wrote:
Do not use this post later to claim that i am shifting attention off myself. I acknowledge that I am under suspicion.

So in the flurry of comment regarding the claiming, we seem to have dismissed the possibility of enacting a Lynch-all-liars policy. The main con i see if we do enact it is that we can't pull use fishing for reactions as freely. The main pro, however, is that people can't claim to be fishing for reactions. Another consequence is that more information is in the thread. Both town and mafia know more about true intentions and can react accordingly.

Personally, i am against such a policy because people can very easily say "i changed my mind" and blame/vindication will tend to be imposed base on a town/scum flip.


So after acknowledging that this post is a distraction from the suspicions on himself he attempts to create a tangent discussion on policy. And he proposes a lynch all liars policy that he talks about for a good deal and then decides he is against?

It was fluffy and served to distract the thread from pursuing him. Claiming that you are not doing that does not cause it to be untrue, rather it speaks as if he was guilty of doing EXACTLY THAT.

I did not acknowledge that this post was a distraction. I merely stated that it was not relevant to my being hammered for seemingly scummy actions. However, according to your logic, this (and tacitly implied, everything else not relevant to my being hammered) is a distraction, and therefore the only things that won't be distractions are things that ONLY tunnel me.

Is that your train of thought? or are you putting words in my mouth?


No not everything that is not tunnelling you is a distraction stop being fallacious. Here
On November 01 2012 11:20 Release wrote:
Do not use this post later to claim that i am shifting attention off myself. I acknowledge that I am under suspicion.


Here you ask us to not use that post to claim you are shifting attention from yourself (read: Distraction) You only ask this because it is blatantly obvious that that is what you are attempting to achieve.
Hey. I am looking scummy and need to back away from my 'scum read' at a million miles an hour. Let's talk about policy. Not only that. Let's talk about policy no one has mentioned, be extremely fluffy whilst doing so, and then come to the conclusion that I disagree with the policy I brought up.

The only rational reason for that post was to distract the thread from yourself. Don't be retarded and say that any post which is not tunnelling you is a distraction. Now who is the one putting words into others mouths?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
November 01 2012 05:28 GMT
#172
If it is blatantly obvious what you think i'm trying to achieve, let's hear other's opinions on that line.

However, if my supposed intentions are blatantly obvious and i literally mentioned what I did, then you are claiming that I claimed scum. Do you agree?
+ Show Spoiler +
What I claim to say is that it the policy talk is impertinent to my being lynched, but remember that i am currently being considered for being lynched.



My intentions for bringing up the discussion about policy have already been stated:
It has been started
It can't be unstarted
So therefore we should finish it before it is used manipulatively.


☺
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
November 01 2012 10:22 GMT
#173
Before you were.talking about how people don't post without thinking in mafia.
On November 01 2012 13:07 Release wrote:
Sounds like bait from Muso. Wants me to push the agenda with which i have already parted.

Muso...

So you think this is a fake claim? Think about how easy it would be to falsify a fake mason claim.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
November 01 2012 10:23 GMT
#174
edwop not falsify but to prove false
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
November 01 2012 11:33 GMT
#175
This Muso situation is kind of bad. A mason claim is only worth anything when we also know the other mason but right now there's no reason for him to claim. The only way it can be useful later is if Muso breadcrumbs who his mason buddy is but right now he's going to be watched closely by scum and his posting style looks like he'll have a hard time hiding this. Technically there aren't any rules about encryption in the OP so he could encrypt something and then give his buddy the key but that's just lame and hopefully wherebugsgo will disallow it.

I don't know about this Release thing. Calling people scum on page 1 for a dumb reason is generally not something scum would feel like they had to do. There are plenty of other people around but I don't have time right now. Actually I'm going to be busy for most of this game which will suck because my activity is a clear indicator of my alignment (even if people don't use it because they're lazy *cough* thrawn2112 *cough* kushm4sta *cough* Hopeless1der *cough*).

Right now I'm reading town on Mattchew, Muso and kind of town on Release and kushm4sta. I'll read the thread harder later today.

And we're past the one-liner stage of the game, consolidate unless you absolutely have to ask someone something right now which you probably don't. Nobody wants a huge game with tons of one-liners because it's simply harder and more annoying to read and that favors scum.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
November 01 2012 12:07 GMT
#176
On November 01 2012 20:33 prplhz wrote:
This Muso situation is kind of bad. A mason claim is only worth anything when we also know the other mason but right now there's no reason for him to claim. The only way it can be useful later is if Muso breadcrumbs who his mason buddy is but right now he's going to be watched closely by scum and his posting style looks like he'll have a hard time hiding this. Technically there aren't any rules about encryption in the OP so he could encrypt something and then give his buddy the key but that's just lame and hopefully wherebugsgo will disallow it.

I don't know about this Release thing. Calling people scum on page 1 for a dumb reason is generally not something scum would feel like they had to do. There are plenty of other people around but I don't have time right now. Actually I'm going to be busy for most of this game which will suck because my activity is a clear indicator of my alignment (even if people don't use it because they're lazy *cough* thrawn2112 *cough* kushm4sta *cough* Hopeless1der *cough*).

Right now I'm reading town on Mattchew, Muso and kind of town on Release and kushm4sta. I'll read the thread harder later today.

And we're past the one-liner stage of the game, consolidate unless you absolutely have to ask someone something right now which you probably don't. Nobody wants a huge game with tons of one-liners because it's simply harder and more annoying to read and that favors scum.


1 It's not true that the mason claim is only worth something if we know the other mason. We know muso is probably confirmed town and that is worth something.
We can ask release to name claim closer to deadline, and muso can compare names with his mason partner to see if it matches the theme.

2 It would have been nice if you said you were going to be busy before the game started. At this point it can be seen as an excuse for your supposed scumtell.

3 I like one liners and I would rather read a one liner than a wall of text.

OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
November 01 2012 13:25 GMT
#177
something just feels so wrong when prp has a town read on me

There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
November 01 2012 14:27 GMT
#178
Millers must claim. I don't care what went down with the Millers are Masons confusion, it's only importance is what's done is done.

Muso's partners identity should not be revealed. Rather then having two confirmed townies before muso's shot making it impossible to confirm his partner we can use it later to try to get a living confirmed town or force a 1-1.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
November 01 2012 14:32 GMT
#179
btw, I'm not a miller.
##vote release
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 01 2012 14:35 GMT
#180
risk, say something about release
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
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