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On November 01 2012 10:08 Acrofales wrote:
Firstly, millers should claim, masons should not. There is currently NO reason to claim mason and it is an easy claim to make if you or your partner runs into trouble, or it's lylo. However, masons SHOULD make a very subtle breadcrumb (note the subtle, I don't even want to whiff it if it exists). Then notify your mason buddy about how it's done. If mafia/sk inadvertently offs one of the masons, the other one has some decent evidence to back his claim up.
On November 09 2012 04:32 Promethelax wrote:
Oh I've been meaning to ask:
Acro do you have a RB BC for the last two nights? and
Thrawn did you BC that your check was on Kush?
those two things keep nudging me in the back of the brain when I try to think about which claims I believe.
On November 09 2012 04:40 Acrofales wrote:
No.
1. I was lazy.
2. I was fully expecting to get shot before any necessity to claim came up.
I have been thinking and I'm a little worried about Acro's claim, because I expect someone who would go into that much detail about mason breadcrumbing would bc his own role.
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There are already 2 confirmed blues and 3 claimed blues. dp has even been hinting that he'll claim something later on. Are we really just thinking it's ok that we have 5-6 blue roles with a unclaimed vig/sk? I'm thinking that one of the people who claimed a roleblocking role might be scum roleblocker.
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On November 10 2012 03:44 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2012 02:51 thrawn2112 wrote:
There are already 2 confirmed blues and 3 claimed blues. dp has even been hinting that he'll claim something later on. Are we really just thinking it's ok that we have 5-6 blue roles with a unclaimed vig/sk? I'm thinking that one of the people who claimed a roleblocking role might be scum roleblocker. And townies are fakeclaiming roleblocked. Yay for logic!
?? Notice I said "might be a scum roleblocker." The roleblocks would still be there, nobody would have to fake anything.
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On November 10 2012 06:38 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2012 06:37 thrawn2112 wrote:On November 10 2012 03:44 Acrofales wrote:On November 10 2012 02:51 thrawn2112 wrote:
There are already 2 confirmed blues and 3 claimed blues. dp has even been hinting that he'll claim something later on. Are we really just thinking it's ok that we have 5-6 blue roles with a unclaimed vig/sk? I'm thinking that one of the people who claimed a roleblocking role might be scum roleblocker. And townies are fakeclaiming roleblocked. Yay for logic! ?? Notice I said "might be a scum roleblocker." The roleblocks would still be there, nobody would have to fake anything. So there's 2 scum roleblockers?
idk wtf you're talking about or thinking i'm talking about. What I'm saying is that one of the claimed blue roleblocking roles could be a red roleblocking role. If you want it specifically, you and fuba. No townie would have to lie about rb pms or anything.
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oh wait I think I see what you're saying. There were 3 claimed rb's the other night but only 2 roleblockers stepped forward, so there's probably a scum roleblocker outside of the people who claimed.
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Ok, so list of players:
3 Promethalax filter
4 DarthPunk filter
5 Acrofales filter
7 mkfuba07 filter
8 risk.nuke filter
10 kushm4sta filter
11 Release filter
2 people claimed having rb roles and 3 people claimed being rb'd. conclusion = probably a scum roleblocker outside of those players. (waiting on dp's promised claim) The only other solution that explains kush's rb is if he's godfather and for some reason lied about being rb'd. I'd sooner believe that there's a scum rb role because of all the blue ones. So take out those 5 players and I'm left with:
DarthPunk
risk.nuke
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I agree with that list except DP might be #2, and replace my name with acro, but with him much lower. A lot depends on what dp claims.
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another reason I think risk is scum is because of this post
On November 09 2012 17:55 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2012 15:39 thrawn2112 wrote:If I had to guess at an sk? idk, I haven't been thinking about setup stuff. The entire day of roleblocking speculation was extremely boring and I don't care about that part of the thread too much. Sk could probably be anyone I think is town. Once we have a smaller pool of players and more flips I think we'll have an easy job of sorting out what is going on with the night actions. If I had to guess... release maybe? (just because he claimed roleblock, and it would makes sense with how much guilt he's shown all game.) So... mafia if you aren't release, shoot release pls he's the sk i promise  /posting pants I'll be gone all day. I'd just like to point it out there that most people play bulletproof SK which is why I never considered kush for it. However it would actually make sense for kush to pick investigation immune rather then bulletproof if he is aware of how others regard his play. Anyway I think key to finding the SK will be to look into the rb's night 2 because it's very likely the SK was roleblocked that night.
I made an obviously dumb and jokey post where I ended the post by talking directly to mafia about who could be the sk, and risk responded directly to the statements I had put in there for mafia's benefit
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On November 10 2012 08:16 kushm4sta wrote:
acro why is prome town? or at least point me to where you explain
5 people claimed some kiind of rb interaction during N2. 3 claimed being rb'd, and 2 claimed being roleblockers. So either someone lied about being roleblocked or there is a missing roleblocker. The only person that could have lied is you (kush) but that would mean that if you're scum then you're godfather, which I don't think is likely due to there already being one, and the high number of blue rb roles. So what makes the most sense is that there's a unclaimed roleblocking role, and probably a scum one. Unless dp claims blue rb, then I'm thinking prom, release, acro, fuba and probably you are all town.... simply because the last scum is most likely a rb role.
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On November 10 2012 08:26 Acrofales wrote:
Thrawn, you're thinking wrong. Claiming roleblockeD truthfully does not make you town.
It makes fuba town (or scum with Prom, which is completely retarded)
It makes me town (or scum with Release, yeah... that happened)
It does not say much about Release or Prom except that they felt the need to claim roleblocked.
Claims:
Acro rb'd release
fuba rb'd prom
kush claimed being rb'd
So we have 1 extra rb. It doesn't make sense that release/prom as scum would lie about it, that would mean there are 4 scum. If release lied then acro may be scum, same with fuba/prom. I don't think there are 4 mafia. If kush lied as scum, that means he is scum godfather. I don't think that is a likely scenario either. It would mean 2 gf roles in a game with a bunch of town rbs and no scum rb. So if the above assumptions are true then it's almost guaranteed that there's an extra roleblocking role, outside of the group that includes prom/acro/kush/release/fuba. If dp does not claim a blue rb role, and that he rb'd kush during n2, then I think that the extra roleblocker is a scum rb and is either risk or dp.
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dp claimed jk, screw everything i've been posting since the deadline
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ok so unless there's a 4 person scum team, nobody is lying about being rb'd. So there's probably an sk within prom/kush/release. Or maybe sk withheld a shot on n2.
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acro: I'm not putting much faith in the setup speculation, for all we know bugs may be using something completely different
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or you. that was what I was saying earlier it just required a matched set of roleblockers and roleblockees for it to make sense.
are we really believing there are a million town roleblockers? town roleblocker is so easy to claim if you're a red roleblocker.
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@ prom I didn't breadcrumb a target. I woke up hungover (halloween/birthday weekend) and put as much effort into a 1 shot-cop breadcrumb as I could stand and didn't bother with the target. acro's complete lack of a breaddcrumb after seeing the effort he went to to make the mason breadcrumb is worrying. it's hard for me to accept that a guy who would encrypt a fakeclaim wouldn't bc his role or action during N1
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posting before the day post feels so naughty
i think i'm gonna wait and see what happens before talking any more about setup
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where is the sun? night will never end. i fear we've entered the twilight zone
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On November 10 2012 11:56 Release wrote:
I'm back.
whats up holmes
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