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On November 04 2012 21:42 risk.nuke wrote:Lets take a step back at day 1 before idiocy occurred. Prplhz Prplhz was almost set to be lynched and rightfully so. The pressure gets to much for him and he replaces out. Also a scumtrait any day of the weak. PromethelaxPromethelax haven't done nearly as much as he is trying to take credit for. And while he claims to have pushed candidates. He's not pushed anyone with a chance of actually dying which to me is the same as nothing. Show nested quote +On November 03 2012 02:11 Promethelax wrote:
Muso: care to give us any history of your Mafia play ever or should I assume you are another 4f smurf(which is the assumption I am playing under)?
I think Muso is a bad lynch today but probably an excellent Vig shot. I hope the vig(s) are taking him into consideration. The reason I think he is a bad lynch is that he is too easy to jump on and Scum have a good way to hide their votes by sheeping all of town. I want a lynch that has some controversy so that everyone actually has to take a stand, without that we won't gain anything from d1. I want a case from every player in the game on someone before the lynch goes through.
Townies: get your opinions out there, with that the scum will not be able to hide in the shadows.
IN this vein I think that Matt is scum, he is playing in a way which obscures the goals of town and allows confusion into the thread. He is dropping his reads without iving any explanation and he is trying to get us to lynch Newbies for newbie mistakes. Scum.
## Vote: Matt The post I dislike the most. Situation: Muso is going to die, not lynching him would be amazing idiocy. In this post Prom tries to make himself look townie by being opposed to a townie-lynch (that will happen anyway). However that doesn't make any sense because the townie thing to do is to kill muso, So what prom is doing is superdumb or Scum trying to gain towncred by being opposed to a townie lynch that will happen anyway. Additionally he claims Mattchew is scum with the worst claimed read of the century. There is no way on heaven or earth I can believe that is his legit read.
I don't buy his roleblock claim. I don't think scum would have roleblocked him and I don't Mattchew would use his 1-shot roleblock. I'm pretty sure we can't have another roleblocker because if I remember correctly another roleblock point would upgrade the 1-shot roleblocker to regular roleblocker. It's a very convenient claim that doesn't make sense. Alas I think he's lying his pants of. ##vote: Promethelax
You were in LC too, remember how bad it was sitting there with one lynch candidate getting nowhere and having no one post reads or even participate? Yeah, me too. I wanted to make sure there was some discussion as I didn't get enough of a scum read off of Muso to be okay blindly lynching him. If I was scum I would have sheeped onto the easy lynch. Not fight it and push other candidates, even consolidating on another candidate to try to push the lynch to a guy who was way scummier than Muso.
I was aware that whatever Mus flipped it could be used to push me and the next lynch if he is red I was defending him and trying to keep one of/my scumbuddy from being lynched. If he was green I was trying to gain town cred. I'd have gone for the easy lynch.
You can vote me but when I flip green you'll have to notice that I was one of the most townie players in the game.
What have I claimed to be doing that isn't true? Please, show me where I have mislead anyone into thinking I have done more than I have.
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On November 04 2012 21:22 kushm4sta wrote:
you are Marvin acme vt? you didn't say role there. because that looks like a scum name.
you aren't hearing my non flavor ideas because I don't have any.
Kush. STFU about it.
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Oh, Risk, do you really think that prp is that weak a scum player? Is he the sort of guy you see running away from pressure? That seems blatantly false, he is a good player and I don't see him doing that. If you don;t have some way to prove that he is a 'weak player' I will be moving you towards the scum side of the bracket for twisting information in an attempt to lynch me.
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On November 04 2012 21:50 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 21:10 Acrofales wrote:On November 04 2012 20:48 DarthPunk wrote:
Seriously. Can we stop with the role name bullshit. My god. Both of you voting prom for not claiming seriously? You should probably bother to read the thread if you think that that is the reason I am voting for Prom. Oh that's right. You are still tunnelling the same read you had during the first part of day one. That is even more scummy than rampant setup speculation at all costs.
Glad to see you're here. How about some reads of your own in stead of pages of useless filler posts?
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Hi all.
I'm terrible at hopping back into the thread. Is there anything in particular that you'd like me to comment on? If not I'll probably end up solo-analyzing filters and talking myself in circles, which doesn't help anyone XD
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On November 04 2012 21:42 risk.nuke wrote:Lets take a step back at day 1 before idiocy occurred. Prplhz Prplhz was almost set to be lynched and rightfully so. The pressure gets to much for him and he replaces out. Also a scumtrait any day of the weak. PromethelaxPromethelax haven't done nearly as much as he is trying to take credit for. And while he claims to have pushed candidates. He's not pushed anyone with a chance of actually dying which to me is the same as nothing. Show nested quote +On November 03 2012 02:11 Promethelax wrote:
Muso: care to give us any history of your Mafia play ever or should I assume you are another 4f smurf(which is the assumption I am playing under)?
I think Muso is a bad lynch today but probably an excellent Vig shot. I hope the vig(s) are taking him into consideration. The reason I think he is a bad lynch is that he is too easy to jump on and Scum have a good way to hide their votes by sheeping all of town. I want a lynch that has some controversy so that everyone actually has to take a stand, without that we won't gain anything from d1. I want a case from every player in the game on someone before the lynch goes through.
Townies: get your opinions out there, with that the scum will not be able to hide in the shadows.
IN this vein I think that Matt is scum, he is playing in a way which obscures the goals of town and allows confusion into the thread. He is dropping his reads without iving any explanation and he is trying to get us to lynch Newbies for newbie mistakes. Scum.
## Vote: Matt The post I dislike the most. Situation: Muso is going to die, not lynching him would be amazing idiocy. In this post Prom tries to make himself look townie by being opposed to a townie-lynch (that will happen anyway). However that doesn't make any sense because the townie thing to do is to kill muso, So what prom is doing is superdumb or Scum trying to gain towncred by being opposed to a townie lynch that will happen anyway. Additionally he claims Mattchew is scum with the worst claimed read of the century. There is no way on heaven or earth I can believe that is his legit read.
I don't buy his roleblock claim. I don't think scum would have roleblocked him and I don't Mattchew would use his 1-shot roleblock. I'm pretty sure we can't have another roleblocker because if I remember correctly another roleblock point would upgrade the 1-shot roleblocker to regular roleblocker. It's a very convenient claim that doesn't make sense. Alas I think he's lying his pants of. ##vote: Promethelax
So he had a read you disagreed with? And then you think he is fake claiming role blocked? What scum in their right mind would fake claim roleblocked. What would be the fucking point?
I can tell you right now that I did not find matt townie. And I don't see how having scum read on him as a valid reason to vote someone.
He is clearly wanting to be active and is actively trying to figure stuff out. He stills seems pretty townie to me.
Quit tunnelling a player who quit and please base your read of prom on the basis of his contributions.
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On November 04 2012 22:01 mkfuba07 wrote:
Hi all.
I'm terrible at hopping back into the thread. Is there anything in particular that you'd like me to comment on? If not I'll probably end up solo-analyzing filters and talking myself in circles, which doesn't help anyone XD
Yeah. What do you think of draz. I posted a case on him before the night post.
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DP, you had release as scummy during d1, but you haven't mentioned him in a while. What do you see in him now?
Also as much as Kussh needs to stop posting about flavour you need to stop posting about Kush posting about flavour. The whole second page of your filter is you telling him off. Give me some analysis and lay off the telling Kush what to do. That is a losing battle.
pre-post edit: fuba, you'd do best looking at me and acro. We're probably the biggest conflict right now and I want everyone to have clearly stated reads on us both with some reasons so that no one can coast. Thank you.
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so... we've got an sk for sure? No way that was a vig shot or something?
Hey kush, why did you bluehunt so hard, I'm not cool with that.
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On November 04 2012 22:00 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 21:50 DarthPunk wrote:On November 04 2012 21:10 Acrofales wrote:On November 04 2012 20:48 DarthPunk wrote:
Seriously. Can we stop with the role name bullshit. My god. Both of you voting prom for not claiming seriously? You should probably bother to read the thread if you think that that is the reason I am voting for Prom. Oh that's right. You are still tunnelling the same read you had during the first part of day one. That is even more scummy than rampant setup speculation at all costs. Glad to see you're here. How about some reads of your own in stead of pages of useless filler posts?
I posted a case before the night post. How about you comment on it? And like you tunnelling one player the entire game counts as scum hunting.
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ebwop: follow up. DP, why are you buddying me this hard? You are the only one with a stated town read of me. We have played together before, you know me, but so do a lot of these other guys and some of the people coming after me must be town (I can't imagine a full mafia team going after me as a group, I'm just not worth it).
How is it that you have such a town read on me when literally no one else in this game does (or has stated it).
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On November 04 2012 22:01 mkfuba07 wrote:
Hi all.
I'm terrible at hopping back into the thread. Is there anything in particular that you'd like me to comment on? If not I'll probably end up solo-analyzing filters and talking myself in circles, which doesn't help anyone XD
Top 3 scumreads please.
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Prom, I said you were probably town.
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On November 04 2012 22:05 drazak wrote:
Prom, I said you were probably town.
oh, I missed that. Fuck me then. Never mind DP.
Who do you , Draz, think is scum and why?
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On November 04 2012 22:03 Promethelax wrote:
DP, you had release as scummy during d1, but you haven't mentioned him in a while. What do you see in him now?
Also as much as Kussh needs to stop posting about flavour you need to stop posting about Kush posting about flavour. The whole second page of your filter is you telling him off. Give me some analysis and lay off the telling Kush what to do. That is a losing battle.
pre-post edit: fuba, you'd do best looking at me and acro. We're probably the biggest conflict right now and I want everyone to have clearly stated reads on us both with some reasons so that no one can coast. Thank you.
I said I wasn't sure before the day post. And would like to wait and see. He hasn't posted anything really since then for my waiting and seeing to have yielded fruit. I mentioned kush also. But I'll get to him after this game.
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On November 04 2012 22:03 drazak wrote:
so... we've got an sk for sure? No way that was a vig shot or something?
Hey kush, why did you bluehunt so hard, I'm not cool with that.
We could have a vig, Zealos looks like a vig shot but it's unlikely since we already have two flipped blues.
On November 04 2012 21:54 Promethelax wrote:
Oh, Risk, do you really think that prp is that weak a scum player? Is he the sort of guy you see running away from pressure? That seems blatantly false, he is a good player and I don't see him doing that. If you don;t have some way to prove that he is a 'weak player' I will be moving you towards the scum side of the bracket for twisting information in an attempt to lynch me.
Scum does this so often it's bizarre. When I first started playing I thought replacements likely took over bored townies. The truth is the bored townies and even busy townies most often just lurk. Mafia who feel the pressure is to much or for another reason feel they aren't doing well feel they are letting their failing their team so they replace out.
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I don't like DP, he has a bunch of fluffy ass shit in his filter, I want to hear more from hope, he's been really lurky. probably my top two scum reads right now.
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On November 04 2012 22:09 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 22:03 drazak wrote:
so... we've got an sk for sure? No way that was a vig shot or something?
Hey kush, why did you bluehunt so hard, I'm not cool with that. We could have a vig, Zealos looks like a vig shot but it's unlikely since we already have two flipped blues. Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 21:54 Promethelax wrote:
Oh, Risk, do you really think that prp is that weak a scum player? Is he the sort of guy you see running away from pressure? That seems blatantly false, he is a good player and I don't see him doing that. If you don;t have some way to prove that he is a 'weak player' I will be moving you towards the scum side of the bracket for twisting information in an attempt to lynch me. Scum does this so often it's bizarre. When I first started playing I thought replacements likely took over bored townies. The truth is the bored townies and even busy townies most often just lurk. Mafia who feel the pressure is to much or for another reason feel they aren't doing well feel they are letting their failing their team so they replace out.
weird. Never seen the connection. Mt first newbie two guys replaced out and both were townie, LC we had a 1-1 replacement. I have not seen this pattern.
Please post the reads you said you wouldn't post at night. Is your shoddy case on me all you've got?
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On November 04 2012 21:50 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 21:42 risk.nuke wrote:Lets take a step back at day 1 before idiocy occurred. Prplhz Prplhz was almost set to be lynched and rightfully so. The pressure gets to much for him and he replaces out. Also a scumtrait any day of the weak. PromethelaxPromethelax haven't done nearly as much as he is trying to take credit for. And while he claims to have pushed candidates. He's not pushed anyone with a chance of actually dying which to me is the same as nothing. On November 03 2012 02:11 Promethelax wrote:
Muso: care to give us any history of your Mafia play ever or should I assume you are another 4f smurf(which is the assumption I am playing under)?
I think Muso is a bad lynch today but probably an excellent Vig shot. I hope the vig(s) are taking him into consideration. The reason I think he is a bad lynch is that he is too easy to jump on and Scum have a good way to hide their votes by sheeping all of town. I want a lynch that has some controversy so that everyone actually has to take a stand, without that we won't gain anything from d1. I want a case from every player in the game on someone before the lynch goes through.
Townies: get your opinions out there, with that the scum will not be able to hide in the shadows.
IN this vein I think that Matt is scum, he is playing in a way which obscures the goals of town and allows confusion into the thread. He is dropping his reads without iving any explanation and he is trying to get us to lynch Newbies for newbie mistakes. Scum.
## Vote: Matt The post I dislike the most. Situation: Muso is going to die, not lynching him would be amazing idiocy. In this post Prom tries to make himself look townie by being opposed to a townie-lynch (that will happen anyway). However that doesn't make any sense because the townie thing to do is to kill muso, So what prom is doing is superdumb or Scum trying to gain towncred by being opposed to a townie lynch that will happen anyway. Additionally he claims Mattchew is scum with the worst claimed read of the century. There is no way on heaven or earth I can believe that is his legit read.
I don't buy his roleblock claim. I don't think scum would have roleblocked him and I don't Mattchew would use his 1-shot roleblock. I'm pretty sure we can't have another roleblocker because if I remember correctly another roleblock point would upgrade the 1-shot roleblocker to regular roleblocker. It's a very convenient claim that doesn't make sense. Alas I think he's lying his pants of. ##vote: Promethelax You were in LC too, remember how bad it was sitting there with one lynch candidate getting nowhere and having no one post reads or even participate? Yeah, me too. I wanted to make sure there was some discussion as I didn't get enough of a scum read off of Muso to be okay blindly lynching him. If I was scum I would have sheeped onto the easy lynch. Not fight it and push other candidates, even consolidating on another candidate to try to push the lynch to a guy who was way scummier than Muso. I was aware that whatever Mus flipped it could be used to push me and the next lynch if he is red I was defending him and trying to keep one of/my scumbuddy from being lynched. If he was green I was trying to gain town cred. I'd have gone for the easy lynch. You can vote me but when I flip green you'll have to notice that I was one of the most townie players in the game. What have I claimed to be doing that isn't true? Please, show me where I have mislead anyone into thinking I have done more than I have.
You can't compare Muso with a week of confirmed mafia to lynch. But thanks for the comparison. Now you've admitted knowing killing Muso was the right thing to do.
@DP: Bending my words is not wise with me, last warning you'll get.
He didn't have a read I disagreed with. He had a godawful read that didn't make sense.
I don't care if you were to dumb to see why Mattchew had acted distinctly townie.
He wasn't your best scumread and you weren't calling him scum for incredibly poor reasons.
If we had a dt check on prplhz you wouldn't just say. Oh well, new guy lets disregard it.
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On November 04 2012 22:12 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 22:09 risk.nuke wrote:On November 04 2012 22:03 drazak wrote:
so... we've got an sk for sure? No way that was a vig shot or something?
Hey kush, why did you bluehunt so hard, I'm not cool with that. We could have a vig, Zealos looks like a vig shot but it's unlikely since we already have two flipped blues. On November 04 2012 21:54 Promethelax wrote:
Oh, Risk, do you really think that prp is that weak a scum player? Is he the sort of guy you see running away from pressure? That seems blatantly false, he is a good player and I don't see him doing that. If you don;t have some way to prove that he is a 'weak player' I will be moving you towards the scum side of the bracket for twisting information in an attempt to lynch me. Scum does this so often it's bizarre. When I first started playing I thought replacements likely took over bored townies. The truth is the bored townies and even busy townies most often just lurk. Mafia who feel the pressure is to much or for another reason feel they aren't doing well feel they are letting their failing their team so they replace out. weird. Never seen the connection. Mt first newbie two guys replaced out and both were townie, LC we had a 1-1 replacement. I have not seen this pattern. Please post the reads you said you wouldn't post at night. Is your shoddy case on me all you've got?
Nothing shoddy about my case. Naming it won't make it so.
Convince me why it would be a good idea to tell the town my town or lesser scum reads and I will.
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