EPTGSL Mini Mafia III - Page 7
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Hapahauli
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Hapahauli
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My town meta is really really inconsistent at times. In particular, I'm good for making 2-3 horrifically bad cases in the early game - mostly because I post without proof-reading and I read filters faster than I should (confirmation bias ahoy). Now marv and I have played in several games, and he's been witness to these cases of mine over the last few months. It blows my mind that marv thinks I'm suspicious based on my iamperfection case - he of all people should be familiar with my town meta, yet he thinks I'm scummy for some reason. However, while I'm good at making the occasionally bad case/point, I'm pretty confident in this one (as well as my iamperfection case, just not on that one point any more). I think it's out there for the town to see how different marv is this game. | ||
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Hapahauli
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You've been overall much more passive and disinterested than I've ever seen you play as town. | ||
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Hapahauli
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On October 24 2012 08:35 marvellosity wrote: I read the fucking case. I don't have massive emotional over-reactions every time I play town (see palmar omgus) nor do I very often play in a game with smurfs where I'm devoid of a lot of information I normally have. How am I disinterested?? Disinterested in comparison to your town meta. You're so much more engaged in the game normally as town - you constantly adapt your reads, you gun for multiple players, you're suspicious of everyone, etc. That's just simply not your play this game, and your play is rather similar in structure to DeathNote. | ||
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Hapahauli
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And ya know what, you can ignore the "emotionality" stuff if you want. You still have to answer for your lack of general suspicion (very common in your town play), the disturbing consistency of suspicion (haven't seen it in your town play), and the comfort level with your vote (especially given that Clothes Mafia had the same lynch mechanic). Or really you don't have to answer it - I'm not interested in hearing your response, because nothing can change my mind about your play thusfar. I'm far more interested in hearing your reads. In detail. If we're both alive tomorrow (you'll certainly be alive, I'm pretty convinced you're scum), you have some work to do. You need prove to me that your play thus far has been a crazy anomaly in your town play and that you're actually having a "bad game." | ||
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Hapahauli
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On October 24 2012 08:52 Keirathi wrote: Of course I can understand having difficulty making up your mind in this game. But the way you tried to make your decision is just so different than the way you normally go about making that kind of decision. Apparently marv's difficulty with this game = tunneling his first two scum interests all of D1 and having town reads on everyone else. Yeah ok. | ||
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Hapahauli
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ESPECIALLY from iamperfection. | ||
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Hapahauli
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On October 24 2012 08:56 marvellosity wrote: fuck off, hapa. That statement was accurate about your gameplay so far: true or false? | ||
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Hapahauli
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I think you missed the point of my case. It's fairly hard to catch a player like marv on traditional reads, because his scum-play is devoid of egregious tells. However, when marv has a really long string of scumgames, he tends to get lazy, and his attitude begins to show. DeathNote Mini is a great example of this, and everything I've written in this game applies to that game as well. When marv gets lazy, he is very catchable on meta, and I've gathered several meta reads on him this game. Individually, I don't think they are damning, however, put together, and I believe they point strongly toward's marv's lazy-scum meta. I have a lot of respect for your scumplay, and I think you're very capable of avoiding all of these tells as scum. However, you get lazy once in a while and they begin to show. More importantly, these tells aren't present in any of your town games I've seen. | ||
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Hapahauli
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Hapahauli
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Read pages 2 and 3 of your filter in that game. It's miles different from your play this game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=358346&user=140487¤tpage=2 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=358346&user=140487¤tpage=3 | ||
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Hapahauli
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Hapahauli
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You still haven't shown me how you are capable of this behavior as town. I'm convinced that your filter can't come from town-Marv. But I'm not expecting you to disprove my case. Are you town? Stop saying you're "trying" and convince me. Dump your reads, give the town some good stuff, and there's a small chance I'll reconsider. Also, I'm curious if you still think I'm scum? Because that earlier "scum-Hapa" bravado of yours disappeared real quick. | ||
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Hapahauli
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And the above post was directed at marv ofc. | ||
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Hapahauli
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On October 24 2012 09:43 marvellosity wrote: you never addressed at all how I've been trying to figure out alignments this game. stop bullshitting. glad you wanna kill off a strong townie with only a 'small' chance you'll reconsider with whatever happens with my play. real townie-like. Oh please do tell me how you've been trying. I've pointed out specifically how different you "trying to figure out alignments" is completely different in this game from other townie games. And lol, you're straight-up claiming scum with that vote. | ||
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Hapahauli
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Please read this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376602¤tpage=37#724 ...then comment ...then vote marv | ||
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