EPTYah BH was really on top of things - just like the last GSL II where I posted like 2 votecounts on the first day =P
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Yah BH was really on top of things - just like the last GSL II where I posted like 2 votecounts on the first day =P | ||
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Oh we had a long conversation over IRC about this an hour ago. Basically there were too many obvious townies. Drazak medic-slipped (like a baws), I was confirmed town, Austin was really strongly townie, and Kei probably as well. The only viable mislynch option that iamperfection had was DarthPunk... MAYBE Z-Boson, and DP was strongly town to everyone in the game pretty early. Z-Boson as well to several players. In addition, everyone was pretty much suspicious of iamp, and after his posting on page 53, I was going to insta-vote him if I survived the NK. | ||
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I don't think anyone doubts you tbh. Scum or town, that's not something I can see someone lying about. | ||
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@ BlazingHand BTW guys, any comments on the setup (both the lynch/deadline setup and the role setup)? This was very different than the normal lynch mechanic TL Mafia uses and I'm wondering how it felt playing it to you guys As we discussed on IRC, I really like the format, though I think it needs a very active player-base to work well. I initially thought it was really town-favored but I'm not so sure anymore. There are a really distinct set of advantages and disadvantages over the more "classic" mechanic. Advantages: + Really displays the thought processes of players with a more dynamic voting system. + Town can control day-length. Disadvantages: - The day can end without players taking a stance/voting. - No last-minute lynch scramble can lead to inactivity/apathy, even with active players. In terms of "optimal strategy" for town, following a policy of "controlled aggression" is probably the best way to go about things. You shouldn't be afraid to throw votes around, but you should be hesitant to hammer. I think Day 1 was good from this perspective - with people overall being patient of v7 (well until the 72 hour mark anyway). Day 2 was a bit more rushed, and I pushed marv's lynch through far too quickly. Fortunately things turned out alright. As far as suggestions for the future, I'd propose that D1 should operate under a normal system (i.e. 48/72 hour day), and after that the game should move into insta-lynch. As town, it's really easy to get scared and never want to hammer someone D1, since there's generally a lack of lynchable content. After D1, it feels like things get a lot easier and the insta-lynch voting system works great. | ||
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On October 25 2012 14:43 vaderseven wrote: that after his approach to day 1 was a really tough spot to be in. I personally don't agree with the self hammer but I can also see the gambit that was being attempted. Just not something I would do or want a scum team mate to do. I think my balls dropped like 5 feet when marv self-hammered. I thought he just got sick of the game as town. Even had this fail-gif prepared: + Show Spoiler + | ||
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On October 25 2012 15:01 vaderseven wrote: Having played alot of hammer games, I knew exactly how marv was going to flip the second I saw it happen. Marv has played enough games to think of small advantages and there is small advantages to scum self hammer (stops conversation for 1) and huge disadvantages to town self hammer. You can make a very good argument that town self hammering is actually playing vs your win condition (especially with this setup of no deadline). Yeah in retrospect I completely agree with you. At the time, I thought it was just an emotional decision though. Thankfully it ended up alright. | ||
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@ Promethelax yeah he does. Hapa is really good but also really abrasive (in my opinion) and ever since reading his first newbie game I have gotten a scum feeling from him in every game ever just because he rubs me the wrong way. <3 Yeahhhh... I enjoy arguing with people a lot and can get pretty confrontational. In general, I really gun for people who I find hard to read (like Z-Bo... sorry D=). I'd change up my playstyle, but overall I'm pretty comfortable with it, and getting really emotional reactions from players gives me so much more information to work with. Also, as cool as the hapa/marv team would have been, it didn't make much sense for me to gun for him as hypothetical scum. Even if I wasn't boxer, it would have been really strange for me to lynch one of the best town players in the game when I knew he was town and knew he had a strong propensity to OMGUS his attackers. As scum, the much easier play there is to just NK him - much more feasible. | ||
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On October 26 2012 04:35 marvellosity wrote: I had a hissy fit and called Hapa a dickhead on irc  it was bad enough going down but being antagonised at the same time pissed me off xD yeahhhh that was a bit of poor sportsmanship on my part I mean I honestly had no intention of taunging or anything, but probably should have expected it would have been taken exactly like that D= | ||
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On October 26 2012 04:31 Promethelax wrote: I think I'd do better playing with you now. I was hoping to get the chance in LC (TT). I wasn't playing smart in our one newbie together and let my annoyance with your playstyle get to me too much. Partially I didn't understand it well and thought your results were through luck which annoyed me even more than your regular attacks on everyone. I know it wouldn't have made much sense. That was why I wanted it to be true, I like all or nothing brilliant plays by scum. I actually thought that the possibility of scum/scum was more likely than TownMarv/ScumHapa but once again it is the brilliance of that play. Look at those reasons, who could doubt you when you said that as scum you wouldn't foolishly push the strongest town player TL has (these days...). Edit: Keir, I think that you are undervaluing your strengths. You are good at working within a town to further town goals and, by doing so, prove yourself as town. I think your weakness right now is your time, you don't have enough of it to put yourself to the use which you could if you had enough time. Also you push you reads really well and get the right reactions. Oh geez I dream of pulling off some crazy scum-play one of these days. At the same time though, good scum play isn't necessarily the most creative - it's usually the most solid and risk-averse. All-or-nothing plays can look brilliant if they work, but they're largely so unnecessary D= | ||
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On October 26 2012 04:39 marvellosity wrote: I at least wanted you to have to WORK for it, so having the boxer claim was so annoyingly convenient, and you were so gloaty about it ^^ I was really proud of the claim though - I had it prepared on a notepad file since you voted me =P But yeah, making cases on the two blues in the game was pretty bad luck thar =( | ||
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On October 26 2012 04:41 marvellosity wrote: yes it was obvious drazak was medic but I'd hoped that the hapa one would have been a decent distraction. Alas. Oh yeah he medic slipped again TT The exact same way as in his newbie game too | ||
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On October 26 2012 04:43 marvellosity wrote: how can you be proud of a claim >.> Mostly 'cause I had it prepared in advance // and it finally convinced me you were scum lol I was scared shitless of lynching you even with the case and everything | ||
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On October 26 2012 04:48 marvellosity wrote: you pretty much know how i'm inclined to claim having seen Rock Band. I passively suggested you could have not claimed rb and then i was like, yeah i'm jk. you seem to like writing these things though, so fill your boots It was my first claim everrrrrrrrrr =( Well there was a cop claim too, but that was post-game =/ | ||
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