Thanks for playing guys. Please leave your smurfs untouched, I might use them later. Will probably change the passwords to them when I'm less lazy.
About the setup, it was really unfortunate for the mafia to get hanged on day 1. In fact, if they had been there they could've hammered a townie at some point. The game is very volatile, just think that if town mislynches on day 1, all it takes is a single wrong town vote on day 2 and the mafia can hammer for the win. But in return town has some very useful information, as proven on day 2.
How did you like playing this? Would you change it or keep it the same for later games?
Credits:
prplhz starring as Alex Hesse hapahauli starring as Douglas Quaid marv starring as Harry Tasker strongandbig starring as Alan Schaefer mattchew starring as Jack Slater
echelontee starring as John Matrix visceraeyes starring as Ben Richards
You should have left the names out for epic guessing game.
I would have had Hapahauli right :D
Also I probably shouldn't have hammered that early on day2.
I guess small games are always volatile, I don't think it was unbalanced though. The day1 mafia lynch was kind of lucky. The worst thing for VisceraEyes was that he's in another timezone than just about everybody else. This timestamp method of figuring him out isn't all that fulfilling. EchelonTee not being around and then more or less getting policy lynched for it just shows that not being around is a bad scum strategy because you'll end up getting lynched even if townies argue vehemently for you His biggest support ended up being a frustrated second vote for him.
Also well done marvellosity for not mislynching me.
So yea, maybe have only EU or only US playing (should be possible with such a small setup) so timestamping isn't that powerful and then post in the misc thread asking people to randomly post in this thread and edit to so that it's impossible to find out who is failing at smurfing and who is just trolling. And then replace EchelonTee for not playing at all.
I was pretty convinced that Douglas Quaid was Gonzaw though.
And prplhz was Alex Hesse, that explains everything! No wonder I got a scummy feeling from him, I always get a scummy feeling from prplhz, for reasons I can't ever quite identify.
Also winner of the obs QT goes to this post by "debears"
early scum call - not certain. indicator though
Schaefer- Uses 2 full sentences of italics after day post. Previously had only used about 2 words in italics. Richards, however, had used full sentences of italics. These ones here:
"""""Why did you automatically assume Alex was referring to the John Matrix lynch?
If your first reaction was to accuse Alex based on his first post, then why would you redact the question before he has a chance to respond to it?""""
Watch your lips!
Also, Schaefer fits my previous categories. Low volume poster. Said scummy things. easy style to replicate
WOWOWOWOWOW
Look at the use of the @DQ in bold by Schaefer. SCHAEFER HASN'T USED @ THIS WHOLE GAME. LET ALONE BOLD @.
Scum? EZed?
E: this was posted like, immediately after the post in the thread. Way before anyone still alive in the game got it.
On October 22 2012 18:54 strongandbig wrote: [...] And prplhz was Alex Hesse, that explains everything! No wonder I got a scummy feeling from him, I always get a scummy feeling from prplhz, for reasons I can't ever quite identify.
Yea, I don't know how I do it. Just happy that marvellosity saw through it.
@palmar (lol) about the setup: I liked it, I thought it was quite fun. Day1 scumhunting is pretty interesting since you don't have meta to go on, or preconceived notions of who is a "good" player.
I am pretty disappointed in ET for deciding to play the way he did. Regardless of whether or not it's "optimal" scum strategy, it feels like it makes the game less fun for both teams. (And it was a decision, Ghost mentioned in the obs QT that he actually posted a few times in the mafia QT so he wasn't afk.)
I also wish VE had actually put an effort into emulating my posting style after he stole my clothes. I saw that post and was like, "that doesn't sound like me at all!" Props to mattchew for catching it. I should've known.
On October 22 2012 18:54 strongandbig wrote: [...] And prplhz was Alex Hesse, that explains everything! No wonder I got a scummy feeling from him, I always get a scummy feeling from prplhz, for reasons I can't ever quite identify.
Yea, I don't know how I do it. Just happy that marvellosity saw through it.
Like, I can recognize it by now - if I had known you were posting through that account, I would probably not have gone after you :p
On October 22 2012 19:07 strongandbig wrote: @palmar (lol) about the setup: I liked it, I thought it was quite fun. Day1 scumhunting is pretty interesting since you don't have meta to go on, or preconceived notions of who is a "good" player.
I am pretty disappointed in ET for deciding to play the way he did. Regardless of whether or not it's "optimal" scum strategy, it feels like it makes the game less fun for both teams. (And it was a decision, Ghost mentioned in the obs QT that he actually posted a few times in the mafia QT so he wasn't afk.)
I also wish VE had actually put an effort into emulating my posting style after he stole my clothes. I saw that post and was like, "that doesn't sound like me at all!" Props to mattchew for catching it. I should've known.
yeehaw, nailed John correctly on setup strategy and nailed VE on mafia motivation. Sweeeet. Somewhat unfortunate we were smurfs, don't think I'd have let prplhz talk me off my read normally ;p
prplhz - you were pretty much my strongest townread day 1, so lynching you was simply a no-go for me.
ET hasn't contacted me at all since like early day 1. He did post in the scum QT, so I can only assume something came up leading him to play the way he did. I don't think it was a strategy.
On October 22 2012 19:18 Palmar wrote: ET hasn't contacted me at all since like early day 1. He did post in the scum QT, so I can only assume something came up leading him to play the way he did. I don't think it was a strategy.
Well, that makes me feel a bit better.
Regardless, the game was quite fun. Interesting that even though we were using undercover smurfs, "playing like yourself" was kind of the key to victory
First and foremost VE and ET I am disappoint.. Idk what the reason was but that was really really poor play from both of you
Hapa as palmar pointed out had scum actually been around we wOuld have mislynched day 1.. This is why we don't vote recklessly and why I only voted twice... Mislynching is one thing but having a townie lynched cause 2 other townies are too impatient to not type in ##vote for awhile is unacceptably bad play... Especially given the nk mechanics
On October 22 2012 21:32 Mattchew wrote: First and foremost VE and ET I am disappoint.. Idk what the reason was but that was really really poor play from both of you
Hapa as palmar pointed out had scum actually been around we wOuld have mislynched day 1.. This is why we don't vote recklessly and why I only voted twice... Mislynching is one thing but having a townie lynched cause 2 other townies are too impatient to not type in ##vote for awhile is unacceptably bad play... Especially given the nk mechanics
Yeah this is a hollow victory for me
Yes, it's a shame ET was totally afk. I'd love to play this setup again with everyone actually playing. Also glad you went fuck it and voted John during Day 1. Very nice catch on Alan at the end, although I think we'd have got there eventually anyways.
I think lynching John in that situation is the best play anyway. You have to be certain you're flipping a red player, and the only person I had a decently strong town-read on was Alex.
GG guys. Kudos to the Schaefer/Richards read early on Mattchew!
Also, I fully bow down to Z-Bo on pointing out Hap and Marv. Man I sucked at that. I do have to admit VE and marv had some similar word choice in this game :/
And Palmar. The only thing that I would suggest to improve this game would be to somehow get rid of the timestamps. Some people just live too far away/have completely different schedules. Don't know if it's possible though.
EPT
His biggest support ended up being a frustrated second vote for him.
so that it's impossible to find out who is failing at smurfing and who is just trolling. And then replace EchelonTee for not playing at all.
