Newbie Mini Mafia XXIX - Page 3

On October 25 2012 18:30 da0ud wrote:
EBWOP : How would you already know I am town ?

On October 25 2012 18:40 Djodref wrote:


I don't know already if you are town or not. I've spoken too fast because I was thinking of our last game where you were town. It was a slip, but not a scumslip

Regarding Roco, I understand your hunch but he reminds me your first weird posts last game. He is suspicious but he doesn't deserve red bold font yet imo ^^

On October 25 2012 22:15 sylverfyre wrote:
Let me also be clear: Opposing a policy and opposing the specific instance of a policy being enacted are two entirely different things. Just because I'm not opposed to Lynch a Lurker doesn't mean I think we should invoke it automatically. But if we were closer to lynch time, and Ini and Roco still only had the posts they have... I'd vote for one of them. By not responding adequately to accusations made against you, you give the town very little to work with.

I don't really agree with debears vote on rad, but I think debears is playing an aggressive game, which is clean to me.

On October 25 2012 21:43 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Just woke up fella's, have a few moments to read this over and give my thoughts. In the name of brevity, I'll keep it short.

On Debears-Rad incident: Debears came out of the gate swinging; reminiscent of DP from the last newbie game. Personally, I don't like this style of hot-headed pursuit, but it can work. However, I feel the reasons he's giving for Rad being suspicious are ill-founded. There is all this talk of confidence and policy lynching, and everything seems to be a matter of personal opinion rather than a role shining through to the exterior. There may be something there in what Debears has concluded, but I cannot be sure of my opinion of Rad at this time. I'd much rather vote for a lurker atm because the evidence is just not there.

Djodref: I find him to be exceedingly odd. I first thought his initial comment of my "serious policy lynching" to be weird, but with his recent two posts I find him suspicous.



How do you know he's town???


Why would you specifically ask someone about them being mafia. What do you hope to accomplish??? I find these two statements to be suspicious as hell.

##FOS Djodref

I'll be back in about 6 hours, after my classes.

On October 25 2012 22:48 Dandel Ion wrote:

On what do you base that?
All I see is he made no contributions. So did other people. Some didn't even post yet.

If it's what he said, why do you see him as scummier than Roco?
Because I don't, so I'd like to know where this is coming from.

On October 25 2012 22:59 Dandel Ion wrote:

Uuuuh
Not really.
You just say "no" as an answer. That's the 'correct' answer for both alignments. I'd imagine you won't be able to interpret much out of those 2 letters.

I know in a post yesterday I semi-seriously pressured Roco to answer that same question, but as I just said, semi-seriously. You seem to really think that's a good strategy, lol.

On October 25 2012 23:12 Dandel Ion wrote:

That's a different situation and a different question..
Most importantly, it's not a question you can just wave off with a "no". It's one that requires an answer with reasoning and logic. It's a decent question to ask.

"are u scum" can be answered in a word, non-commitically. I don't think it's a good question.

But I'm starting to argue semantics....

On October 26 2012 00:25 Alsn wrote:
All right, here I am again. First things first, Dandel asked me about lurker policy. I think that it's a potent tool in order to pressure scum into participating. Scum slips are nice and all, but if there's no pressure there's less chance of one happening. That being said in general I feel that lurker lynching is at the very best a ~25% chance of catching scum(random chance), policy or no. Generally I've gotten the feeling that lurkers don't lurk for strategic reasons, but because something pulled them away from the game and that's definitely something which can happen to anyone.

With regards to other policy, what would that be, exactly? I'm all in favour of logical policy lynching. If an argument can be made that town benefits from it I'm all for it(see my thoughts on kush from my first few posts last game if you're interested in an example of why I think so). There's no player in this game that warrants such a lynch though, unless we are talking behavioural policy, but I'm not really familiar with any example of that so I would have to address such policy on a case by case basis.

A few things stood out to me when I skimmed through the thread earlier today and I'll be posting some of my comments on what has actually happened so far over the course of the evening.

On October 26 2012 00:30 debears wrote:
@Djo



Why did you ask the question? The answer is pretty obvious as town or scum

You'd say "I'm town" no matter what. The question was useless and you know it. There is no real reaction that can be read from a question like that. It's not a big lie if the person is mafia by any means.

I don't like that. It makes you look like you are contributing without actually doing so

On October 25 2012 15:27 Inigmaticalism wrote:
I have a thought regarding the Rad-Debears argument, over the whole 'confidence' thing. Its possible Im wrong, but it seems that Rad views the world in a more 'logical' way, meaning that in this case (playing mafia) having sound logic and scum reads will naturally result in confidence from said logic. Debears may happen to be more 'emotional', in this case where having a strong will/confidence allows for people like him (and me) to be very logical when there is a strong emotional base beneath them. You've both brought up the pros and cons about each type of viewpoint, so it should be beneficial if you guys watch out for each other.

It seems you've both explained what you meant fairly well, and Im especially glad to see this post from you Rad cause I was getting slightly worried.



Ha just saw you summed up my analysis for me:



@ sylver
You seem fairly energetic. Also, don't really think "What's your favorite role to play in mafia?" keeps us all that focused on scum hunting, but as it may be some clever scheme of yours Ill bite.

......Well actually I won't because I realized I was typing how I play the game. How clever. Loaded question indeed.