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Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 28 2012 12:08 GMT
#892
On October 28 2012 20:59 Alsn wrote:
Also, I'd like to point out that scum killed someone who was suspecting Djo no matter what. Both kush and sylver were outspoken anti-Djoists, even to the point where sylver looked scummy because that was the only thing he contributed to in the entire thread. I still think this is pretty sketchy territory since we don't know the motivations for why they were killed but I think we can safely assume that their suspicions of Djo probably was a deciding factor. What we need to figure out is whether or not he's being framed or not.


@ Alsn

Do you think that mafia could have killed Kush ?
Given what happened in the thread during N1, I'm pretty sure that is SK or Vig work, trying to take down one mafia.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 28 2012 12:38 GMT
#894
@Alsn

I have just been playing a game where I was mafia and kush was town. I know what I am talking about.
I don't see any mafia team wanting to kill Kush. This guy has an incredible mislynch potential and his reads are not so good.
I cannot be sure about it but I would say like there is a 1% chance that mafia has actually killed him.

Can you confirm me that you have no experience as a mafia player (not including this game of course) ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 28 2012 12:41 GMT
#896
Here is our mafiaQT for this game. Please check how we talk about Kush.

Mafia Quicktopic
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 28 2012 12:45 GMT
#897
@dandel

I cannot accept your vote.

You have to vote me because your think I am SK. In this case please bring up a case against me proving that I am SK.
OR
You have to vote against me because you think I am scum. Same, provide your case. Also you should start looking for other potential mafia players because I'm gonna flip green.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 28 2012 12:47 GMT
#899
On October 28 2012 21:40 Dandel Ion wrote:
What Alsn said.
I don't know which one is the scum kill.
It's more likely it's Sylver, that I admit. But in no way, shape or form is it IMPOSSIBLE that Kush was the scum kp.
If I wanted to speculate up reasons for it, I could come up with some. But it would be pretty useless specuation, and most importantly, fluffing up the thread.

You unwillingness to even aknowledge the possibility that kush was scum-killed, reads to me like you have relevant information on the subject.
That's why I think you were involved in one of the kills. If you're SK, you most likely killed Kush, if you're scum, I could see a reason for you to kill either.

You're right that this lynch is pretty fucking important. That's why I don't want to waste time twiddling my thumbs like you all seem to prefer. We're already full of lurkers that probably don't read the thread more than once per day. So what rationale do you have for NOT pushing your reads early?
If you wait until right before the flip, it won't do shit, because 3/4ths of the game won't even be there.

Ergo, I think I'm pretty damn justified in pushing my read early.


@ dandel

I don't have relevant information, I have experience...
Check the mafiaQT from my previous game. Please check how we chose the NK and how we talked about Kush.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 28 2012 12:50 GMT
#900
Seriously if we could have lynched someone during N1, Kush would have be lynched.
Mafia wants to keep that kind of players in the game. 1% chance of him being killed by the mafia.
I don't understand why you cannot see it.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 28 2012 13:44 GMT
#905
We still have no insight from Nackht at all. He has only said that he was sure that Kush was scum.

I'm not sure about Cheese anymore. I'm null on him right now. His case shows good scumhunting efforts, even if they go in the wrong direction. Him using a "djo attempt to discredit me" paragraph in his case is a towntell for me because it shows that he has natural sense of innocence (in opposition of the usual self-culpability). If he still believes I am scum after my answers to his case, I want him to look for my potential scumbuddies. No by association by the way because I am town and anyway you should wait for me to flip to start this kind of thing.

I want dandel to decide if I am scum or SK and bring consequent proofs to his case.

I'm very very wary of Nackht. He has given us nothing (expect him being sure that Kush was scum) so far and I don't understand why a town replacement would be retaining info like he does. The other thing speaking against him is that I don't have a strong scumread at the moment and it makes the probability for the lurkers to be mafia higher. So I hope that we have a modkill on Roco today.

I'm going to vote pressure him to make nackht talk. Keeping this vote on him until he gives us a complete assessment of what is going on here according to him. He promised it but he has just given us a "lol" so far.

##Vote nackhtjogger

Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 28 2012 14:02 GMT
#907
@ Alsn

Thank you I was feeling very very lonely...

I need to check dandel's filter right now. But I would like to add that his vote on me for being SK or scum makes suddenly more sense.
If he is mafia, he knows that I'm not mafia, hence him accusing me of being the SK much more easily than a town would be. I didn't understand how he came to this supported by thrawn's meta.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 28 2012 14:14 GMT
#910
On October 28 2012 22:59 Alsn wrote:
I agree that nackh's participation has been worrisome at best but other than asking him to talk I'm not sure what we can do. I suppose I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to lynching him but only if Dandel turns out to not be an option.

But we also need to consider the very real possibility that Roco gets modkilled and flips town. Sure he could be scum and hope is great and all but we can't in any way distance ourselves from the possibility that we are only 4 town left in the game.


@ Alsn

I'm pretty sure that we have a 5vs3vs1 situation. As I said, jailkeeper+detective+vig seems imb4...

This into mind, I've been looking at the players list and I've tried to find the 4 other townies. I'm still leaning town on Rad and debears. I was having doubts about you but you look like your town self right now
My guts are telling me that Inig is a newbie town right now and I'm going to follow my guts on him for the time going.
Cheese is null right now but I don't like his "safe" play and him cherry-picking in my filter.
dandel was null so far.

So it makes the chances for Roco and Nackht to be mafia quite high in my opinion. That's why I would prefer a modkill to a replacement. A mafia player being replaced at the end of D2 with a 2 post filter is just too good for the mafia.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 28 2012 14:20 GMT
#913
On October 28 2012 23:08 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2012 23:02 Djodref wrote:
@ Alsn

Thank you I was feeling very very lonely...

I need to check dandel's filter right now. But I would like to add that his vote on me for being SK or scum makes suddenly more sense.
If he is mafia, he knows that I'm not mafia, hence him accusing me of being the SK much more easily than a town would be. I didn't understand how he came to this supported by thrawn's meta.

That was not even thrawn's own meta, he was heavily coached that game.
I'd assume you coach will have told you the same thing thrawn heard.


@ dandel

If you think that I am SK, please bring a proper case against me. Please show specifically how thrawn posts and mine are similar.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 28 2012 14:22 GMT
#915
EBWOP:

And I would love you to bring more arguments to it.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 28 2012 14:35 GMT
#928
@ Cheese

I cannot accept you saying that I'm scum or SK. In my opinion, SK is played differently because you don't have a team and you don't have extra information as SK.
If you are saying that I'm scum, stick with it and go find my scumbuddies. It is going to be difficult because I have none.

Also I would recommend you not being stubborn and read my defense against your case again. Could I have your comments on it ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 28 2012 14:42 GMT
#931
On October 28 2012 23:36 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2012 23:35 Djodref wrote:
@ Cheese

I cannot accept you saying that I'm scum or SK. In my opinion, SK is played differently because you don't have a team and you don't have extra information as SK.
If you are saying that I'm scum, stick with it and go find my scumbuddies. It is going to be difficult because I have none.

Also I would recommend you not being stubborn and read my defense against your case again. Could I have your comments on it ?

So you WANT people to make association cases?
I'm not sure you understand how this works.


Also, if your buddies are both lurkers, that's also an explanaition for the lack of defense.


I don't want him to make association case. I want him to go scumhunting. I don't think he is going to change his mind about me anymore so I want him to look for other possible mafia. Better start now than after I flip green
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 28 2012 14:51 GMT
#938
@ dandel

Your post is reaching dangerous OMGUS levels. If you are town, you are not helping yourself.

You should better decide if I am town or SK and bring your case.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 28 2012 14:57 GMT
#940
On October 28 2012 23:27 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I have a few minutes so here are my reads:

Djo is scum or SK - I am sure of it. I have little reason to vote anyone else at this point
Dandel is leaning scummy for me; he completely avoided one of my questions:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2012 01:56 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
@ Dandel

What's all this stuff about you being confused and unsure? Yeah, the thread is jampacked with goodies concerning multiple participants, but that's to be expected. Don't try to play the "confused" card. It's almost as bad as the "noobie-card"

I find this especially odd since you've advocated against using the noobie card, then proceed to use the confused card which is just as bad.

Rad is leaning town for me. Although that association case between me + Kush bore no merit at all.
Debears. Hard to tell. Pretty null, especially since we haven't heard from him in a while.
Nackhtogger. He's afk.
Roco. He's afk.
Inig. He has a few walls of text that are exactly that: Walls of text. A little scumhunting here or there but I don't see a reason that I should consider town as of yet.
Alsn. I see his case on Dandel. I agree that he looks fairly scummy at this point. But I'm sticking by my Djo lynch unless someone can seriously convince me otherwise.
I'm very interested in hearing from the two lurkers, Inig, and Debears on their thoughts on everyone including myself but especially Djo/Dandel.

To get this out of the way:
##Vote: Djodref


@ Cheese

You cannot accuse me of being an SK. Don't you remember that you have used my slip in your case against me ?
I should have more information than you in this game. The SK had no access to the info that daoud was scum.

You are going back on my scumlist, Mr.Cheese. Also I found it strange that you have made no comments on my defense against your case. You sure are not open to change your mind about me.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 28 2012 14:59 GMT
#942
EBWOP: A serial killer would have had no access to the info that daoud was town. my bad...
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 28 2012 15:00 GMT
#943
On October 28 2012 23:53 Dandel Ion wrote:
Yes, Master Djo.
The world revolves around you.

Well, in this game, it actually might. Considering that nobody else is playing.


Yeah, I know, this game is pretty lame...

What do you think about a Nackht lynch ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 28 2012 16:24 GMT
#952
wow, that's new !
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 28 2012 16:28 GMT
#953
@ Rad

Do you have any breadcrumb to back you up ?
At first sight, i believed your claim. I don't think killing kush was so bad because we would have lost a lot of time mislynching him today. I'm pretty sure mafia was already pushing for a lynch on him during N1.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 28 2012 16:38 GMT
#955
@ Cheese

Regarding the part where I'm trying to discredit you. I just find it awkward that you are listening to you top scumread when he calls you to change your vote from him to choose between two other guys you haven't been looking into.
I agree that I don't look consistent on this myself.

Anyway, I understand that you have enough reasons to believe that I am scum. It's regrettable that you are wrong so I think that's the best for both of us is to not waste too much time on this.

I'm very curious to see who is going to be your next target. Please surprise me

Could I ask you what do you think of Nackht ?
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