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On October 12 2012 13:08 kushm4sta wrote: I agree with this. I dont like hydras they creep me out. so tempting to answer repeatedly with all the accounts I for some reason have access to >.> <.< | ||
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On October 13 2012 02:29 Kurumi wrote: but hydras aren't allowed that's why you should make proper OPs. | ||
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on the basis it won't start for ages and i'll feel like a fullsized game by then :p | ||
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On December 24 2012 02:49 Toadesstern wrote: I mean reading the thread takes more time and it's most likely going to be something like this: you post, you go to bed, next time you log in there's 20 pages to read. If Gonzaw, VE and myself are having a shitting contest picture 100 pages to read instead :p That's the basic but it doesn't take that long. Reading filters is what's taking time. First time in a long time I've not been included on such a list | ||
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 my first mafia partner in crime ^_^ | ||
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On December 30 2012 05:28 Toadesstern wrote: If democracy means your restricting my freedom to start this game RIGHT NAO I don't like it. Everyone who's not a communist has to vote for "start today" i like this guy | ||
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On January 01 2013 02:39 wherebugsgo wrote: Palmar is only #3 on my "always take seriously" list. #1 is sinani. such a dick bugs, now you have to tell us #2! ^_^ | ||
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On January 01 2013 03:28 wherebugsgo wrote: well #4 is grush, I can tell you that he was my guess for #2, damnit | ||
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#2 is obviously VE. | ||
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On January 01 2013 11:02 Toadesstern wrote: I don't fully understand what that list means to be honest. Is it good or bad to be placed high in there? I guess it's something bad though because WBG is pissed about me  this is hilarious <3 toad | ||
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On January 03 2013 07:00 Palmar wrote: First scum | ||
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On January 03 2013 07:17 Hopeless1der wrote: How long do you want the start of the game to be trivial nonsense? The sooner we get started the better, no? Yamato, why does bugs have 2 votes already? longer than this | ||
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On January 03 2013 07:38 Palmar wrote: The fact you call it trolling suggests you're not reading the thread. There is legitimate discussion about lynching Bugs on day one. no there isn't the fact you say there is doesn't make it so sorry Palmar | ||
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On January 03 2013 08:00 HiroPro wrote: marvel. i'm thinking about killing hopeless, monkey, and supersoft. which one would you not? what a weird question i wouldn't kill supersoft because if he's town he's potentially super useful and i have no idea how i would read him as scum at this stage of the game | ||
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On January 03 2013 08:02 HiroPro wrote: he doesn't seem to be reading the thread. what does that say about him to you? evidence? | ||
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On January 03 2013 08:09 supersoft wrote: that's not my point about MZ... then what is it? | ||
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On January 03 2013 08:09 HiroPro wrote: His last post - he asks Palmar whether or not lazermonkey's reasoning makes him still think it's a "catch". That makes no sense though, because hopeless indicated that he meant to write something else. um, ok. no | ||
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if he's going to be a dick he should just fucking die. | ||
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On January 03 2013 08:40 yamato77 wrote: Outspoken player =/= scum. Palmar is overly active and has good reasons for the policy lynch. Marv you know better so you starting this Palmar is scum stuff is fishy. I just knew you'd come into the thread saying something like this. Palmar is not a "normal" player that you can attribute your stupid heuristics to. | ||
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On January 03 2013 08:45 yamato77 wrote: So then how does him pushing this lynch make him scum, Marv? Enlighten me, O Mighty One. because he's trolling and his discussions on wbg didn't actually move the thread forward. There was no point to anything he did. You come in telling me outspoken player isn't scum when you know I just finished a game as scum with a 20+ page filter. Cmon man. | ||
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because if you think that killing wbg-town is a "win" situation, then you must be scum. So you must be trolling. So stop it. Anyway, I could explain a little more why Palmar could be scum. Palmar and I both play scum or town in a certain kind of way. When we're town we're usually active and trying to figure things out, and it's obvious we're interested. Or maybe Palmar looks totally uninterested, and that's usually when he's town as well. It's when Palmar (and me) *pretend* to be interested that we're more likely to be scum. There's no need to pretend as town and generally neither of us do. Everything Palmar posted so far took him absolutely no effort and he just made a bunch of posts in the thread to look like he's here and he cares and shit, although actually there's no evidence that this is the case. All of you are going "omg Palmar posting a lot, probably town", but if it's taken him a combined total of 5 minutes to make all his posts then this doesn't actually ring true. It's just a way of establishing some credit early because everyone thinks Palmar is just uninterested as scum. Anyway, Palmar could yet have just been coming into the thread having some "fun" or whatever, so we'll see what effort he wants to put into the game tomorrow. | ||
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On January 03 2013 09:05 VisceraEyes wrote: His question was probably "why are you excluding the possibility of [Toad] being scum" I think he was implying that you "already know that he's town" or something equally laughable.  oh, i see. No. | ||
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On January 03 2013 09:07 marvellosity wrote: I mean, Toad can outright claim scum if he likes, but I presume if he's scum he has at least a passing interest in people thinking he's not scum. that is what is concluded, toad. | ||
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On January 03 2013 09:09 VisceraEyes wrote: You know Toad as well as I do (I think)....you are REALLY saying that Toad having a notion that killing a townie could be good for town is REALLY a scumtell for that guy? Really? Really marv? i'm not interested in this at all, i just want toad to stop staying stupid things and at least try to be useful. | ||
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On January 03 2013 09:12 VisceraEyes wrote: The first thing is not realistic...although the second is. why bother commenting on that, and not, say, what i wrote about Palmar? | ||
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On January 03 2013 09:16 VisceraEyes wrote: Also it was a joking little jab at Toad's expense, and I was hoping you'd chuckle about it. I'll refrain in the future. Sorry Toad, I think you're a swell player and all, but you do say stupid things most of the time. yes ok. Dunno why I leapt on you like twice already ^^ | ||
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On January 03 2013 10:01 Toadesstern wrote: I'd apreciate hearing some more thoughts from Palmar, pretty much no matter what. Got some Palmar? what are your own? | ||
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On January 03 2013 10:14 VisceraEyes wrote: Did you just claim mason? Or are you talking about out-of-game-PMs? out-of-game PMs, after he died in the most recent game I presume. | ||
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On January 03 2013 10:51 supersoft wrote: Of course did this discussion move the thread forward... Palmar does this all the time to start a discussion. Every time people step up and accuse him for that. It's just an icebreaker. Palmar knows that a wbg lynch isnt going to happen. Especially if he pushes him 20minutes after the game has started. I am thinking of a game where palmar claimed dayvig and aimed at people to get the game going. No idea what game that was... Ah yeah and he was town... and i explained the exact same thing... Having a deja vu right now... Of course you might be right, I don't know yet. Then again I've played with Palmar 5 or 6 times in the last half a year or something and you haven't, so maybe I have some extra knowledge ;o Probably we just wait to see how he carries on playing. Maybe you get a townread of what he posted so far, I definitely don't. He can 'get the game going' as mafia too, for example Liar Game where he made his funny voting plan and called himself King etc. Funny that players like syllo saw him town for quite a few cycles that game and he wasn't | ||
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On January 03 2013 11:27 Clarity_nl wrote: How did no one jump on this btw? I'm going with the logic that Palmar is too dumb to slip so it was a trap, which makes him clearly town in my book. that's such terrible thinking, Clarity. | ||
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On January 03 2013 11:32 Clarity_nl wrote: You're saying it's just as likely he reverse-reverse-reverse-psychologied as it is that he reverse-reverse-psychologied? What do you think of Tunkeg? I'm saying there's no point talking about ti because he could easily say such a thing as either alignment i don't think much of tunkeg, maybe lean slightly town because he had another go at me when probably by now he would know that he'd always lose if he took me on. but it isn't much. | ||
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On January 03 2013 11:38 supersoft wrote: because it's 0 you clearly get to conclusions too fast. yes, yes. I am not sold about palmars alignment yet. But as long as he plays protown - and getting the game going is protown - we have no problem. One thing, I still don't want to let go, is MZs post about Palmar. It seems he knows Palmar is town, and he thinks it's obvious enough for everyone else, to just yell it out. And therefor i think Palmar is really town and MZ is scum. Can you follow? + Show Spoiler + On January 03 2013 11:08 supersoft wrote: lol and I am an idiot for warning them :D now they know my trap nvm. wasnt a good trap yes, i understand, and you could well be right. | ||
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On January 03 2013 22:54 supersoft wrote: yes, because i read the setup. i'm kinda surprised you haven't talked more about MZ since he came in last night saying absolutely nothing again. Did you find you want to lynch him less for what he said or something? | ||
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On January 03 2013 23:00 supersoft wrote: i talked about him... and this is the last time i tell you guys to read my filter befor you adress me. no, you haven't talked about him since he popped in saying he wanted to lynch Tunkeg and left again. This is the last time I treat you as an equal before condescending down to you for not reading. | ||
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On January 03 2013 23:22 supersoft wrote: I hadn't had time to post more, since i got distracted by vivax hrhr, I like where this is going :-) go ahead Palmar. so now you're about, why don't you expand on your thoughts on MZ a bit? | ||
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It is my business. This is a game of mafia and I need to get reads on both you and him. Stop being a dick. | ||
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hey Clarity, got anyone you dislike other than lurkers right now? | ||
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On January 03 2013 23:47 Clarity_nl wrote: Yeah I dislike some people, but I don't have any scumreads for ya, sorreh I've been trying to find some, no luck who do you dislike and why isn't that dislike scummy, dear? | ||
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On January 03 2013 23:53 Vivax wrote: Yamato, don't you think I'm a little much suspicious? do you think you're suspicious? If so, why? | ||
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On January 04 2013 00:01 Vivax wrote: I actually think I am doing a decent job. My only problem is that I need to continue the list and then make proper reads from it. But I am busy doing stoichiometry exercises before lessons begin again, I'll obey and post them too if Palmar orders. I'd be quite content to kill tube. I'm not sure about this Bugs thing, I don't have that prejudice against him. So I learnt a new word today. Anyway, I agree with Adam on Clarity. In both Hero and Mario mafia where Clarity was town, he came basically straight out the gate finding things suspicious (jay, and s&b's VT 'slip' respectively). In his only scum game he struggled to get early scumreads, much like here. Clarity isn't aggressively questioning anyone to try to get scumreads, given he doesn't have any so far, either. He chose to mention Palmar's video thing which seemed a total non-thing to mention, especially as it had been and gone. | ||
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On January 04 2013 00:10 Clarity_nl wrote: I never mentioned palmar's video thing. I am rather ill and trying to post less, something I failed at in hero. Jay stood out as scummy immediately, as did tunkeg this game, but after looking over tunkeg I changed my mind. Other than that I truly believe the majority of scum are in the lurkers, since I am not seeing any in the active group yet. On January 03 2013 11:27 Clarity_nl wrote: How did no one jump on this btw? I'm going with the logic that Palmar is too dumb to slip so it was a trap, which makes him clearly town in my book. | ||
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On January 04 2013 00:35 Clarity_nl wrote: He's not, he's just trying to stop tunkeg from shitting up the thread, with logic Tunkeg wasn't shitting up the thread, he was asking a legitimate question. And what iamp posted wasn't really clever or anything, it was a statement of the obvious. This whole page is silly. | ||
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i've had enough of you, you can die | ||
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On January 04 2013 00:39 Clarity_nl wrote: The answer to tunkeg's legitimate question was obvious, kind of my point. it wasn't obvious, because nothing debears has posted has made him look really town. | ||
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On January 04 2013 00:43 Palmar wrote: not at all marv! do you disagree they're more towny than a tunneling yamato? i trust yamato a hell of a lot more than you right now. | ||
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On January 04 2013 00:47 Palmar wrote: ... this isn't about yamato dude I'm using his-town-tunnel as a general reference to how much I think the other two are town. Are you being intentionally thick? Whatever. Start being useful and I'll maybe stop lynching you. It's really easy actually. | ||
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On January 04 2013 02:26 froggynoddy wrote: Wow... I think I should have eased myself more gently with a mini... My vote is still on Tunkeg. He went from engorged e-penis after a wagon started, saw that the wagon was still going and toned it down with little to no explanation, as if he'd been told to tone it down and wait for another wagon to roll on up. I think we should leave lurkers (vets or no) to vigs, theres less to read out of people voting a lurker rather than voting someone active or at least kind of active. I don't understand Palmar's trolling.. I must be super thick as well as bad. Hi froggy, stop inventing narratives dear. I'm finding it increasingly hard to justify your vote on Tunkeg given how, as you yourself noted, he played very similarly last time you played together with him (and me!). What is distinct between his play this game and that game that makes you sure enough to be voting him? | ||
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On January 04 2013 04:05 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Considering my other two games with him, it certainly is concerning. :p Are you going to stop making quips and do something at some stage, dearest? | ||
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On January 04 2013 05:01 HiroPro wrote: only Palmar or do you have someone else you would lynch? Palmar seems a fun lynch. Or MZ, or Clarity, or Cheesecake. BC is a little summarise-y for my liking too, but i don't wanna lynch him today. | ||
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On January 04 2013 05:11 Toadesstern wrote: and you think that's alignment indicative of cheesecake to a point that you'd prefere him instead of other possible targets? Do you know him? Is he a vet I don't know? what other targets? I named like 4 or something. | ||
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On January 04 2013 05:15 Toadesstern wrote: cheesecake to me is someone who's within that mass of players who are playing bad for whatever reason and I'm not willing to make a decision on them right now, neither am I willing to decide on which one of them should be the prime target, like I just told Supersoft recently. Players like MZ, like Tunkeg, like Clarity or Cheesecake. All those players other than Tunkeg are usually kinda useful as town. | ||
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On January 04 2013 05:26 Toadesstern wrote: and you know god damn well that that is not a reason to lynch people, not even if we're talking about vets. You even criticized Palmar for thinking that way and now you're doing the same thing with players that are WAY MORE likely to just have a bad game somewhere inbetween. Not saying I'd like those guys alive. By all means, shoot them dead if you're a vig but I don't get how you'd be comfortable enough to pick a lynch out of those this early. what else do you suggest we pick people out on??? stop nitpicking when you don't have any better bloody ideas. | ||
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On January 04 2013 05:36 Toadesstern wrote: not much yet. I don't want to die n1 again. I know, won't happen with this stacked of a playerfield but you can't be safe enough, can you? :p I mean, I'm serious with my reads and all that and I'm pretty sure I got some decent ones right now. I'm just not telling you and I have no intention of looking like I'm serious in here :p I just really don't like lynching into those people Marv wants to lynch into because they tend to flip like someone spinning a wheel of fortune instead of flipping their true alignment. well until you're willing to share your great wisdoms, why don't you just shut the hell up complaining at other people? | ||
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On January 04 2013 06:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: So many massive epeenz over compensating lol. Marv answer me. i've talked enough about Palmar in my filter, I don't need to say anything more right now. | ||
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On January 04 2013 06:54 VisceraEyes wrote: Rally? Don'txtoy with my emotions Foolish, because I'll totally vote for Toad right now. See if you can get to 5 sheeps in a cycle, pumpkin. Making good progress ^_^ | ||
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On January 04 2013 07:02 VisceraEyes wrote: I have my reasons marv, just because I haventexpressed them in thread. But you know, continue to just jump my shit for any little thing. It's amusing and shows me you're at least thinking about me. <3 what's with everyone deciding not to tell people things this game? It's really easy to say you have your reasons, but so far you're just hopping around agreeing with this person or the next. | ||
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On January 04 2013 07:44 iamperfection wrote: good anyways i disagree ve i think has toad has been overall active and has commented on a lot of the comings and goings of the thread. He is not a good lynch toad has commented on almost nothing of value. | ||
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I don't want to lynch him yet, but I don't find him a bad lynch. I have nothing to say in Toad's defence at any rate. | ||
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On January 04 2013 10:08 VisceraEyes wrote: Foolishness - LOL Palmar - /facepalm supersoft - started out strong, puttered out. MZ - Clearly not even trying. Null. BC - ....hold me. Marv - I'm sensing disappointment. Usually means scum. VE - Townie town towningtons. Toad - Is scum. Kill it. Actually you're right for the first, but it's not quite what you think, and I don't mind explaining it a little. I was quite looking forward to this game because I felt there was a pretty decent chance I was going to be able to play town with at least 1 of Palmar or Foolishness. I've played with Fool twice only and he rolled scum, unfortunately, in both. Palmar I've played with a bunch of times, but so far always with the opposite alignment. Then after that Palmar has basically trolled most of the game (at least, playing nothing like his last few town games where I was either hosting or scum) and Foolishness is doing even worse than this. So yes, I've been disappointed with the game so far. | ||
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On January 04 2013 10:14 VisceraEyes wrote: By which I mean, obviously, I understand what you're saying entirely, and this would be an extraordinary post for you to make as scum...not that I don't think you're capable just.....it was so immediate... well there's no point calling myself town is there, so I'll leave it for you. I only really wanted to answer because you somehow managed to correctly pick out disappointment (rather than anger or irritation or something) from how I played so far. So there you have it ^^ | ||
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On January 04 2013 10:15 Palmar wrote: I don't understand why people insist I'm trolling. at the very least, like I just said, you are playing nothing like the last few town games I played with you/watched you play. | ||
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This is further exacerbated by a conversation I had with him on IRC a few days ago. We were just talking about his play a little, and I'd told him that a weakness in his play was that he often got caught up in thinking what a town player "should" do, and being wrong as being a scumtell. Shortly after he wrote this in a QT: "Palmar 12-31-2012 08:39 PM ET (US) I have a weakness in my game where I just think everyone that doesn't agree with me when I'm right is scum, and everyone who does is town. There is absolutely no reason for me to think Bugs is scum, only the fact he's been wrong all game long. That doesn't make him scum though." And twice in this conversation on IRC, related to this, he said that Day 1 was his strongest day, because he's not encumbered with flips and this sense of right and wrong. So his manner of play today makes this even more galling. This is supposedly his strongest day as town by some margin, and he's decided to use it by claiming scum 3 times, generally trolling, giving no reads, or at least no explanation for his reads. As far as I can see, he's banking on people viewing his retarded play as town somehow, even though there is literally nothing townie about it. Recently in his townplay he has been quite happy to tell people why he finds certain people town, and then when he decides someone is scummy, he gives good reasons why. Just none of it this game. | ||
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On January 04 2013 10:48 supersoft wrote: blargh. Palmar is always an easy d1 target. I don't remember any game, where Palmar wasn't accused d1.. You know that, wbg. He may have overdone the trolling in the last 3-5 hours. + ppl that accuse him seem to be kind of suspicious to me: Marv is focusing Palmar since the beginning and randomly agreeing on every other suspect (his list some pages ago) MZ now doesnt even think that Palmar is scum. Toad isn't really suspicious, I think it's just his paranoid townplay... i don't remember whether he does that as scum, too. I got to think about what marv just posted though... I can point you to several in the last few months where Palmar was clearly town day 1 and wasn't accused. Normal Mini Mafia 3, Hero Mini Mafia, Yet Another Mini Mafia. | ||
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On January 04 2013 11:17 wherebugsgo wrote: I don't actually remember the last time Palmar got any sort of pressure on d1. In fact I don't even remember when the last time he was anywhere close to being lynched as either alignment. when i last lynched him, of course. | ||
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On January 04 2013 11:29 VisceraEyes wrote: Yeah that's the conclusion I came to as well. GOSH YOU MUST BE ALL DOPED UP IF WE'RE THINKING THE SAME THINGS BUGS! and it's a really dumb thing as well, because if he is town he's making town waste time on him like this. hey wbg, what do you make of BC so far? | ||
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On January 04 2013 11:50 wherebugsgo wrote: iamp you should post your logs now. I don't find BC scummy atm. I actually agree with what Foolishess said about him earlier, though Foolishness hasn't said much-that in itself was worth remembering. it worries me a bit that i haven't really noticed him at all. | ||
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On January 04 2013 12:11 wherebugsgo wrote: it doesn't matter who it was, I have never encountered a town mason pair that 1. heavily implies they are masons in thread just for kicks 2. is not able to produce logs on demand There is something really weird going on, I'll give you that. That said, I would be inclined to believe they are both town if they produce the kind of logs that I am expecting. I'm not quite sure how scum mason works (scum PM host immediately at the start of the day and choose someone?). If the logs are good (and it will be easy to tell whether they are from iamp or Palmar, or the effort that's gone into them) then likeliest they are both town. But yeah, it depends what we see when we see it. iamp, did you mason Palmar or did he mason you? | ||
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On January 04 2013 12:33 debears wrote: do you deny that he is fucking scummy this game at the very least? In Hero he didn't give reads until he was about to get lynched basically. He was easy lynchbait the whole game. Of course his play is scummy here, just like it was in Hero. He might even be scum, I dunno yet. Nothing in your case made me go "a-ha! nice!" | ||
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On January 04 2013 12:37 debears wrote: His activity all hero was 3 pages. His day 1 was 1 page exactly. He has 3 pages halfway into d1 and nothing to show for it So he's more active and equally unproductive. So? | ||
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On January 04 2013 12:45 Toadesstern wrote: ##vote: wherebugsgo explain yourself, you putrid pile of poop. | ||
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On January 04 2013 17:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I can't wait for these logs lol. I can't tell what's better; the fact that they could both be scum and just faking it or the fact that one of them could be scum regardless of what the logs say. Meaning whatever they say is irrelevant and won't tell us anything about either players alignment. simply totally untrue, and you're bad for thinking all of this | ||
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He did the same in Rock band. I'm simply not scum. | ||
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On January 04 2013 20:43 Palmar wrote: Nah, and the fact you're not even giving the possibility I am town a thought looks pretty bad for you. There is a chance I'm wrong, but more likely than not I'm right. You cannot deny that you have not pushed a single read this game, only vaguely commented on a few. The only contributions you've made is providing random insight into how I play. But feel free to try to counterwagon me, it'll be fun. I even have a lot of stuff for you to go after if you so wish. I pushed you, and you were the leading vote-getter by at least a couple of votes. Get a grip. | ||
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On January 04 2013 20:43 Clarity_nl wrote: marv although I have my doubts when it comes to palmar's case, some of it rings true, it would still be appreciated if you addressed it. Are you saying that you're invested as scum, or are you saying that you're not always invested as town.... orrrrr? Palmar, I'd like you to look at Paranoia and tell me how marv plays d1 in that, compared to the filter that you linked in your case (wherein he says pregame he will try to not spam up the place as much as normal) There is literally nothing to address. Palmar attempts to use meta, but he doesn't try to draw parallels between this game and Hero (or any other scumgame) at all. My play this game is not unrepresentative of my townplay, given shockingly I'm town. The only difference is that this is the first full-sized normal I've played for a while. I have no idea what you want me to answer and I'm suspicious of you for asking me to answer this case. | ||
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On January 04 2013 20:52 Clarity_nl wrote: Palmar comes across as town in these for sure. marv, you're "suspicious" of me for asking you to address the case....? I don't even Because you've seen me play often enough and I don't understand what you even want me to answer from that case. What the fuck are you asking me, clarity? | ||
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On January 04 2013 20:59 Palmar wrote: don't change the fact your read was bad heur hur you have no idea it was bad. go away, palmar. | ||
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On January 04 2013 21:00 Clarity_nl wrote: No need to get pissy. You are less invested than I've seen you as town, so maybe you had a reason for that? I find your reaction weird, from the perspective of town marv doesn't palmar's case make sense to you? I mean some suspicion has come my way but I wasn't appalled or shocked or pissed because I realize it's my own fault for being lazy (yes, I'm also ill but it's not like I'm physically incapable of playing mafia) Your reaction was: wtf palmar thinks I'm scum? IMPOSSIBLE. Which doesn't compute in my head with how you've been playing last time Palmar thought I was scum, he was scum. In the very same Rock Band he linked. I've not played uninvested at all, so I have nothing to say to that. The only thing is what VE picked up on, which is disappointed, which I already explained. Apart from that, nothing else to say about it. | ||
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On January 04 2013 21:00 Vivax wrote: Dude, you forgot to add that VE is the most bandwagony player in here.Like, EXTREMELY. In sum with the other points you wrote about him, that should make a decent D1 lynch. I don't see where your townread on froggy comes from. He improved a little on his latter posts, but his first posts look pretty bad. so you're wanting to claim scum too. cool. anyway maybe palmar is genuinely just being bad with his case on me, the rest of his reads look ok ##unvote | ||
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On January 04 2013 20:35 Lazermonkey wrote: Yhea, I can vote Marv. given you're voting me, you best tell me exactly what you like about the case and why you're voting me. this won't fly. | ||
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On January 04 2013 21:05 Palmar wrote: I'm not the one calling claritown scum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let's all sing the badsong. Also your defense that I called you scum once when I was scum is hilarious. I'm sure people will realize my bluff when they know that! what it means, treacle-toes, is that I have (now, had) enough belief in your play that you'd be able to pick a scum marv from a town marv. Clarity isn't even Claritown in your spreadsheet, other than that (more recently than I made the fucking read itself) he gave his illness excuse. Stop twisting, twisty man. | ||
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On January 04 2013 21:06 Clarity_nl wrote: Holy shit marvs icon changed I pooped myself. Marv, after reading the mason logs and his reads are you still comfortable with a palmar lynch? I just unvoted him. Srsly dear -.- | ||
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On January 04 2013 21:08 Clarity_nl wrote: Ehhh, yes, yes you did. Who do you want to lynch? I don't know right now. My primary target just un-primaried himself. | ||
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On January 04 2013 21:13 Palmar wrote: Why would you want to make sure I get lynched if you think I'm town? spite, dickwad. | ||
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On January 04 2013 21:11 Palmar wrote: Maybe you should have actually scumhunted... oh wait. I did, and my case and push on you was good enough that YOU WERE THE LEADING VOTE-GETTER. | ||
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On January 04 2013 21:16 Palmar wrote: Bitch please, I did a better job than you at lynching me. not true, stop trolling | ||
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On January 04 2013 21:29 Clarity_nl wrote: I'm saying it's weird for a scum marv who isn't invested to exclaim that he is, because a scum marv who isn't invested knows his filter will show him as not invested. my filter shows nothing of the sort, you just don't know how to read my filter. | ||
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On January 04 2013 21:49 Vivax wrote: I refuse to believe that iamp is town. Looking through posts and chats again, I could very well imagine him being a scum mason. Palmar essentially got persuaded by WIFOMING about the possible benefits of sacrificing KP for masoning in favour of iamp. I will judge him by his play, not by this, so he doesn't get all lazy and cosy. @ Lazer, how do you go from "I will lynch Palmar if he doesn't show these logs" to "Yhea, I can vote marv?". Do you have arguments of your own for voting marv? Or @ everyone: When was the last time Lazermonkey pushed a lynch of his own? iamp is town, stop thinking otherwise. he is my strongest townread this game. There is also absolutely no point in scum giving up KP to mason Palmar through iamp. No offence to iamp, but he isn't going to be able to sway a town-Palmar off his course in any way at all. | ||
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On January 04 2013 21:51 Vivax wrote: Maybe it's cause I'm inexperienced, but the benefits for iamp from doing this are evident, while he clearly took the least responsibility for what they were doing. It was Palmar risking to get lynched. there are no benefits for giving up KP, because iamp will be judged on his play, not his association with Palmar. he was my strongest townread before I knew he was mason with anybody. | ||
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6.marvellosity - srsly supertown 8.Djodref - I wouldn't have him coloured in red. He's extremely null - he plays a VERY active scumgame (as active as me) so him being absent is just 100% bizarro. 10.Clarity - sigh, I guess null. He could be ill and scum and be telling the truth, but Palmar is probably right after all. 12.Vivax - now thinking town, based on iamp paranoia, and post just above going back and picking something extremely random from someone's filter. This is Vivax townplay, I wager. 14.VE - very sheepy, but not that red. I dunno. He could be scum, I just want to see MORE. 15.debears - null, playing really really weirdly, kinda trolly, but at the same time not obviously retardedly or omgusly. Maybe slight lean town after all. 16.bugs - seems town to me so far. seems kinda interested since he started playing. Not strong 17.Palmar - an idiot. 21.supersoft - leaning scum, having been nullish/slightly town. I know he LOVES to lick the ass of players like Palmar, but his sheep on to my case is super weak. 28.Cheesecake - stronger red now, since I've seen him post actively in British Empire while being totally uninterested in this game. The rest of the reads I agree with the general colour of the read if not the exact reasonings, but close enough. It should be noted that Adam is australian, so he's either just got in bed or is about to go to bed, and has had all day to be active, and has done nothing. For me this is enough to make him the top lynch for today. ##Vote: Adam4167 | ||
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On January 04 2013 22:56 supersoft wrote: or did you change your mind about palmar? I changed my mind about Palmar for now. | ||
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On January 04 2013 22:57 supersoft wrote: 5. Meapak_Ziphh 6. marvellosity 7. Toadesstern 14. VisceraEyes 16. wherebugsgo 17. Palmar 19. Foolishness (based purely on what Palmar said about him trolling) 21. supersoft 23. Jackal58 27.BloodyC0bbler tell me, marv. Balancewise. How many of these players are scum. | ||
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On January 04 2013 23:03 supersoft wrote: Yeah see. And how i voting you from my perspective "super weak"? you've given no prior indication i might be scum, nor any reasons why you agree with palmar. | ||
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On January 04 2013 23:02 kushm4sta wrote: aw it's so cute to see marv panick. palmar looks town. his case is convincing. I'm sheeping. I have also had a scummy feeling about thrawn. a lot of his.posts seem fake..esp that one about bc. and scum marv is very vulnerable to metareads, he has admitted this. He's a good lynch imo. you're so cute, kush. | ||
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On January 04 2013 23:11 supersoft wrote: doesnt mean i have no reasons. The list you made is pretty good: i'd only add some minor changes, and ofc switch our colors, since you are as obviously scum as meapak and BC. Palmars case is perfect. and your Palmar-tunneling was just implausible then you're as bad as both you and Palmar were earlier for believing Vivax is scum. Palmar's case is really terrible and it irks me that you can't understand it. My Palmar tunnel wasn't even implausible, you said yourself that you had to sit and think about the post I made on him, presumably because it made good points. If you are actually town, get your head out of Palmar's ass for one fucking minute, please. | ||
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On January 04 2013 22:57 Vivax wrote: Adam is lurky, but I actually like his post about debears. Debears advocated the use of statistics but doesn't give a fuck about them or the game in general, I feel. That doesn't make him scum yet since he might be busy at a swinger party with his Brown brothers, but I'm waiting for his play to unfold...in a better way than his previous. I also liked Adams' question to Clarity. Clarity picked the lurking vet, Jackal, instead of Tube, the douche lurker. Call me biased about this, but I also find it more likely that tube is scum since he was so theatrical about his post, and Adam gets townie points from me for noticing that Clarity made a weird choice. Why don't you post reads about froggy or lazer marv? Lazer promised to post, so I can see that, but froggy? I actually played with froggynoddy in both his previous 2 games on TL Mafia (as far as I'm aware). I was his big bro scum in LIV, and he was town vigi in Magic Mini. In LIV he constantly apologised for being absent and was for the most part extremely diplomatic. In Magic Mini he was more aggressive and less apologetic. He's been too absent so far but there's no particular reason right now to think he is scum. His play is closer to that towngame than it was to his scumgame. His first post on Tunkeg was bad but he came at it with a kinda belligerent attitude I'd expect from him playing tonw, not scum | ||
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On January 04 2013 23:30 supersoft wrote: You know i have a problem with your game so far. Everything you did was just so useless. I cannot see the will to find scum. I don't see any plan. Examples? this. I really don't know why you asked me this. You did see, that I was actively going for vivax - who i still think is scum - and you tried to distract me with MZ. (successful btw.) only when your attacked, you deliver: mhm. I didn't try to distract you from Vivax, you made a point on Meapak based on his original comment on Palmar. He was as far as I'm aware your best read at the time. After that, MZ came into the thread saying he wanted to lynch Tunkeg and a couple of pointless other things. Then for some reason you didn't comment on this, and it seemed like you should, so I asked you about it. Only when attacked I comment on my own play? Why is this either a surprise or alignment indicative? Also, Vivax is still probably town, so you need to get over that one. | ||
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On January 04 2013 23:38 froggynoddy wrote: Tbh I dont feel completely comfortable with lynching you but honestly that case on Adam was super weak. that post in particular made me reconsider, it seemed desperate when you have plenty of time to find better scum targets. You defending me does not make you more townie. At best it is null, at worst its a scummy more clever attempt at 'seeming' like town. I didn't say me defending you makes me townie. I am explaining why I wasn't pushing you. That is all. I regularly vote for people as town that are not giving a shit about town on Day 1, and Cheesecake and Adam fit the bill perfectly. The 'case', for what it is, is not weak, because there is no evidence Adam gives a shit about town. | ||
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On January 04 2013 23:33 kushm4sta wrote: edwop I have also had a scummy feeling about marv. a lot of his.posts seem fake..esp that one about bc. I said thrawn before. yes, but you tried shooting me in Chrono because you thought my posts were scummy, so whatever man. | ||
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On January 04 2013 23:41 iamperfection wrote: you know i fell asleep waiting and woke up and i am still waiting yep, Cheescake is also a good lynch. Either cheesecake or Adam are good lynches today. | ||
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On January 04 2013 23:46 Vivax wrote: Also, it's the first time I see someone using his nationality as defence, don't do that froggy. The British invaded half the world a few centuries ago, so don't start with being "conflict avoiding". hey. hey! We 'civilised' the world. ^_^ | ||
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On January 04 2013 23:47 kushm4sta wrote: scum thing to say So basically you are focusing on policy lynches (palmar, adam) with very little content towards who is actually scum. Your scumreads are Cheesecake - due to activity except you should realize that this game is super long and hard to keep up with. cheesecake's play is not necessarily scummy. and supersoft, who you randomly insult (he likes to lick ass or something) -due to sheeping the case on you (aka omgus) those are who you think is scum? Except Cheesecake has been around posting one-liners, which means he's in the thread, he's just not making any effort to do anything in it. If you think lynching low activity is policy, you're dumb, else I could lynch Foolishness or Jackal or something instead. | ||
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On January 04 2013 23:52 Lazermonkey wrote: Didn't he get lynched in that game though...? Because that would be quite a good reason to change his scum-in-shitty-position meta, don't you think? shame that i'm town in shitty position i got lynched in that game because the meta case on me was ironclad, unlike the one here, which is just nonsense. My scumgames are far more marked than my towngames in doing "typical town things" because I know what it takes to survive. As town I don't pretend. | ||
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On January 04 2013 23:56 kushm4sta wrote: In your own words what was so ironclad about that metacase? just read it, it was all true. | ||
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On January 04 2013 23:56 kushm4sta wrote: In your own words what was so ironclad about that metacase? I should elaborate - Hapa in his case drew parallels with my scumgames. Here Palmar is just trying to show how I've played differently as town before. Sure, Rock Band was my greatest triumph, catching all the scum, catching the SK, and blocking multiple KP. I've had fuckloads of completely average day 1s as town though. It means nothing. | ||
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On January 05 2013 00:01 Jackal58 wrote: Are you both masons or did just one of you contact the other? If so who? read the thread, iamp contacted Palmar | ||
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On January 05 2013 00:02 kushm4sta wrote: help me find the game with the ironclad meta case on marv http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376602¤tpage=37#724 that's the post | ||
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On January 05 2013 00:02 Lazermonkey wrote: WIFOM INC What if Marv and Iamperfection are scumbros? Food for thought... END OF WFIOM stop being stupid. iamp is town, i am town. | ||
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On January 05 2013 00:08 kushm4sta wrote: This is the summary. You exhibit all of those. Just because your response to the case has been different than last game, that does not make you town. Iamp has retardedly suggested this. Also about your response, I find it scummy. It looks like panicking to me as I already said. It is an extreme jump in activity. no, iamp is right, and you're as much of an idiot as you always were. Why don't you go check out Movie Mini Mafia. I posted about 15 pages in 2 days when I was almost getting lynched there too. Shock horror, I was town. | ||
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On January 05 2013 00:14 kushm4sta wrote: marv can you be bothered to move your vote? ? At this stage I'd vote for Adam or Cheesecake. What are you asking? | ||
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On January 05 2013 00:16 Palmar wrote: Why should I believe you're town marv? Hell, even your list of reads were basically based on what I had written in the spreadsheet with some minor changes, including agreeing with me on Adam and pushing him as a read. You should know that I hated the way Adam was playing immediately after the post that he wrote and you agreed with (about clarity and someone). We drew completely different conclusions after that post, I think I even called him scum in the thread, but you for some reason liked what he had to say. Then you 180 when he doesn't post, which is true of a lot of other people in the thread. The only reason I'm bothering questioning you is iamp is telling me I'm dumb. But please, none of your thoughts seem original, none of your content prior to me pushing your lynch was worth a damn. You seemed perfectly fine doing nothing but ride-along getting me lynched on day 1 with nothing else to be analysed from that day (well you threw out a couple of names for no reason). I just don't see anything that makes you look like townie. I agreed with his suspicions of Clarity, and I made it perfectly clear exactly why I agreed with his suspicions of Clarity. The fact he has pushed nothing since and not followed up on it is more indicative than the original post. I seriously loathe that you haven't properly researched my meta when making this case. People have been suspicious of me many times for lack of content or bad Day 1s, LIII, Dwarf Fortess, Can't Believe, Paranoia, and probably some others I'm not forgetting. Why do I need to push original content from your reads sheet if I agree with them? I told you the differences in what I thought on the sheet, why would I say anything else? I don't get it. It should have been fairly apparent I'm quite suspicious of VE because I keep niggling at him about how he's voted. It should have been fairly apparent I'm quite suspicious of BC given how I've tried to canvas opinion on him and given my own that he just seems to be summarising/not lurking. I pushed you for precisely the reasons I gave in my post, about our discussion about how good your Day 1s were compared to your other days. It's annoying how you can't grasp how that conversation so recently into your play this game might have a significant effect on me. | ||
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On January 05 2013 00:28 Palmar wrote: I don't actually use meta. I think you're scum because of your gradual turn towards thinking I'm scum after repeatedly pointing out I can troll as either alignment. I think you're scum because in the process you saw no reason to ever seriously voice or out any special concerns or cases against anyone, except of course you agreed once with a guy I thought was scum writing a case on a guy I tentatively thought was town. I think you're scum because once you were called out for it your cases are weak, not very well thought out and contain very few specifics from this game, most of your observations have been generic (I point to your evaluation of froggynoddy for example). I think you're scum because you seem generally disinterested in who gets lynched and you didn't actively try to get people to agree with you. I don't care about your meta. I included that in the case because I remembered that you played differently in rockband, and a lot of people like that, and it's generally hard to whip town into shape to lynch. Since you remember our IRC conversations, you should also remember that I said I usually just write my cases to convince town, more than to prove people are scum. But hey, selective memory is good right? To the bold, how is that relevant to why I pushed you? My evaluations are usually generic, so what? I thought froggy is town because he had some more aggressive tones in his posts than when as scum, do I need to quote that to show I'm reading the game? Or can you look at that yourself? Do you need me to press quote? What is there to say about Cheesecake that I can quote? Here, let's quote this bunch of one-liners he's made without scumhunting. Or I can just say its' the case, and again anyone can verify that it is the case. You should fucking care about meta, because it might actually draw you to the bloody right conclusion. An example: On August 09 2012 05:24 marvellosity wrote: ##Unvote Custos is actually getting involved in town affairs ##Vote: prplhz prplhz very much is not. I'm going to look more into the Forumite situation. Need to mull over what slOosh said to me and also see if I can make anything out of what seems to be a lot of 'meh' from people about it. That was my final vote, as town, in that game. That was all the reasoning I gave for it, and the guy I just unvoted I had voted for also not giving a shit about town. | ||
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On January 05 2013 00:37 Palmar wrote: Here marv *hands marv a piece of paper* You can call me bad for 1 day in any game you'd like if you flip town. I don't care about any other game, I call you shit when I want, it's this game i care about | ||
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On January 05 2013 00:38 kushm4sta wrote: Marv I say you are acting like hapa's metacase describes your scumplay. You say "look at these other games tho!" When hapa made the case against you, you said Also a "look at all these other games" type defense. i make the same defence as town get over it | ||
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On one side there is kush and toad who are too stupid to understand what is scum and what is not On the other there is Palmar who is too arrogant and tunnel-y to have his mind changed It's the middleground people I need. The Lazers, froggys, VEs, even the supersofts. Anyone with a brain, basically. | ||
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On January 05 2013 00:41 thrawn2112 wrote: well i don't want to lynch either you or palmar look at adam and cheesecake then | ||
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On January 05 2013 00:51 Palmar wrote: actually they're not, but marv is still a better lynch. the fact you think i'm a good day 1 lynch shows how bloated your stupid ego is | ||
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On January 05 2013 00:50 kushm4sta wrote: those lynches are boring 50/50 policy lynches no they aren't. Jackal is a 50/50 policy lynch. | ||
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On January 05 2013 01:01 iamperfection wrote: you said it yourself me and palmar are likely town palmar feels strong about this case it must be done no, it mustn't. you've disappointed me. | ||
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On January 05 2013 01:10 kushm4sta wrote: marv is palmar scum? you have never said you thought he was scum. You want to lynch him for annoying you?? esp with this mason claim that does not seem reasonable. why don't you fucking read my filter? I've unvoted Palmar and said he was probably town. | ||
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On January 05 2013 01:06 Palmar wrote: I know another guy who should be a town leader ^^ I was, I was lynching you. | ||
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On January 05 2013 01:46 Palmar wrote: I would probably lynch BC, but I feel good about this marv lynch. Indeed I was probably going to suggest lynching him until I realized just how little marv had achieved in the thread. you're labouring under this horrible misapprehension that I'm usually really useful Day 1 as town or something. | ||
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On January 05 2013 02:07 Keirathi wrote: Hello nooblords. I have 40 pages to catch up on Back in a bit. Keirathi. SAVE ME GODDAMNIT | ||
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On January 05 2013 02:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I dont have a ton of time right now and given that most of it was spent catching up on the thread all I can say is what the fuck? Palmar is off the hook given how rampant his bullshit was all day because he posted some logs and a list of reads that all looks seems hastily put together and shit. He then makes his only case of the game against a player his own notes say specifically he would like to hold off on pursuing then suddenly his outlook changes while marv does the same shit palmar has been doing except Marv was more useful through the entire day. People need to realize that Palmar only contributed because he was harassed into doing so and has done the bare minimum since. Seriously people Marv may not have scum hunted but he was actively harassing people or pushing people to generate discussion. ##vote palmar I honestly dont get you people and the next person to suggest lynching me on inactivity should go back and read the first thing I said in this game after signing up while everything in here is true, it makes me scummier on BC. :< | ||
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On January 05 2013 02:11 Palmar wrote: don't worry marv, if you flip town I'll lynch BC next. That's when the fun starts. fuck off | ||
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On January 05 2013 02:14 Kurumi wrote: No fucking off on my premises boy! Play nice no u Palmar doens't deserve nice | ||
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On January 05 2013 02:33 Toadesstern wrote: it worked pretty damn well last game to be honest. last game isn't this game. | ||
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On January 05 2013 02:36 Toadesstern wrote: well yeah but I had you down as scummy as well, I also had VE down as slighty scummy (whatever, he's VE so that's a null I guess) and besides very few people I actually agree with most stuff in palmars sheet. Like I wouldn't call Clarity town, he's still in the "might be stupid category", nothing I'd lnych but nothing I'd call town either. So it really does look like Palmars town again. like kush you always have me scummy, and i'm usually not. But I don't trust you to pull a scumread out of a bona fide scumbucket, so whatever toad | ||
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On January 05 2013 02:38 VisceraEyes wrote: Well I would help you out, but you think I'm scum sooo....good luck. I'm reading through some filters, since clearly no one is interested in Toadesstern for whatever reason. that's weak. do you think i'm scum or not? | ||
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On January 05 2013 02:38 Toadesstern wrote: what happened to this marv: it's the same marv, the reason I made that post is that I was astonished you got some things right. | ||
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On January 05 2013 02:42 Toadesstern wrote: you already got it :3 I'm not looking to change it on me i mean On January 05 2013 00:43 marvellosity wrote: kush, I know you're desperate to lynch me, you can leave your vote on me dear. Nothing I can say will convince you otherwise. On one side there is kush and toad who are too stupid to understand what is scum and what is not On the other there is Palmar who is too arrogant and tunnel-y to have his mind changed It's the middleground people I need. The Lazers, froggys, VEs, even the supersofts. Anyone with a brain, basically. | ||
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On January 05 2013 02:44 VisceraEyes wrote: I just don't know anymore. I wanted to lynch you until you told me the bit about being disappointed and why, but thinking back it would have been easy as fuck to cater than answer to me. So I'm now taking it as null and by extension you as null too. Palmar's case is missing stuff - like the fact that this is your median activity/contribution level D1s regardless of alignment, and the fact that a town marv (who respects Palmar's ability as a player) WOULD want to lynch Palmar...but like Toad, it's been at the exclusion of everything else. And because I should be pretty obviously town to you, and because my sheeping shouldn't come as a surprise to ANYONE REGARDLESS of my alignment, least of all you, I wish you luck with the mob. I won't be adding my vote to the tally just yet, that's the extent of my effort in your defense. why? | ||
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On January 05 2013 02:47 VisceraEyes wrote: My push on Toad, my general activity, my insecurity about certain things...there are several things that should/would have tipped off a townMarv. you know I have great difficulty reading you. Don't make me quote the PMs we had after Paranoia where you asked me if I was grasping your play and I said "not really". You feigned insecurity about me as scum with me last game in Hero. And I have no clue why your push on Toad has to be townie either. | ||
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On January 05 2013 02:52 VisceraEyes wrote: I have copies of those PMs as well, why would you need to quote anything? To prove to town that we had a conversation? What does that accomplish? I'm not even accusing you of anything... :/ Anyway, it doesn't matter. What matters is that I feel like I've been townie enough that townMarv would have a town read on me, and you don't...so you're either not town, or I'm wrong. In either case, it doesn't matter because I'm not voting for you. So what's the problem? I feel the same way the other way round. | ||
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On January 05 2013 02:57 VisceraEyes wrote: Difference being you're on the block and actually think that I'm scum, while I'm NOT on the block and have you as null. hey now, i didn't colour you red in supersoft's list <3 | ||
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On January 05 2013 03:10 VisceraEyes wrote: What's your read on Palmar? he should be town, given that I agree with most of his reads. Plus his push on me looks like "I believe I'm right" town Palmar. If I do somehow get mislynched, just make sure you keep on his ass afterwards, don't let him slack. | ||
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On January 05 2013 03:15 VisceraEyes wrote: Also it should be noted that townMarv has this idea that he can't be mislynched. You seem relatively resigned to the Woe is me, Palmar's groupies done me in' thing. what drugs are you on? My first day back at work and I spend 100+ posts trying to stave off this stupid lynch. | ||
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On January 05 2013 04:08 Toadesstern wrote: Marv if you happen to flip town, who do we lynch? who am i voting dumbass | ||
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On January 05 2013 04:08 Hopeless1der wrote: ##Unvote: Mr. Cheesecake ##Vote: tube tube is a vigi shot | ||
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On January 05 2013 04:10 Toadesstern wrote: I thought you might have something to say that only makes sense with the assumption that you're town. I usually have thoughts like that myself but keep them to myself because they're useless to you guys until I flip. no, normally it would be that Palmar is scum but right now I just don't think it's the case. | ||
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On January 04 2013 08:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: It's not an accusation - it's truth. Truth for half the players too. Don't worry I'll be cooking up something later tonight after work. On January 05 2013 03:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: ##vote: marv Because sheeping dibbers and phone posting / not reading thread. In b4 im scum. your last 2 posts. saying "inb4 im scum" doesn't make you not scum. You probably are. | ||
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On January 05 2013 04:13 tube wrote: you guys are overreacting i just dont like being reasonable until i can no, you are a total douchebag and you should be modkilled for not playing. you are a terrible, bad, horrible player and person, for ruining a game others like to put effort in. you should feel like the pile of steaming crap that you are. | ||
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On January 05 2013 04:15 tube wrote: christ is this your way of trying to look town no, it's my neutral assessment of you. | ||
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On January 05 2013 04:16 Hopeless1der wrote: No, I don't have a townread on marv, but I don't want to lynch him either, so back I go ##Unvote: tube ##Vote: Mr. Cheesecake how do you feel about BC, dear? Apologies if you've already answered this before. | ||
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On January 05 2013 04:36 Palmar wrote: No we're lynching Marv. @Marv, post your reads if you're somehow town before you die. You don't really have to if you're scum but you can do it anyway if you want to. Everyone else. do NOT last minute switch off marv, that'd be extremely dumb, even if BC is actually an excellent lynch. i've posted all my reads. literally all the players in the game, the thoughts are there, whether through your spreadsheet, or my response to it, or other bits and bobs through the thread. | ||
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On January 05 2013 06:23 wherebugsgo wrote: lay off BC, I don't think he is scum. I am 100% behind a Hopeless lynch, however. Marv are you an alignment cop or rolecop? How many uses? Alignment, i check night 1, get result start of day 3, check night 3, get result at start of day 5, etc. | ||
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On January 05 2013 06:25 HiroPro wrote: w/e, your claim doesn't mean anything. I don't understand why you would claim. why the fuck wouldn't i claim? if i died without claiming, people would go "why didn't you claim?" now you have the choice to lynch the uncounterclaimed cop (and i won't be) or someone else. | ||
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Who my bloody vote is on, who do you think? | ||
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On January 05 2013 06:26 wherebugsgo wrote: who do you want to lynch? stop moaning and actually do something, please. why do people think i have my vote on some random person? | ||
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On January 05 2013 06:28 wherebugsgo wrote: you actually legitimately believe BC is scum? You think his attack on Palmar is scummy? of course it's scummy. It's completely disconnected from the thread. There's not a chance in hell Palmar is getting lynched, and his reasons for thinking Palmar are scum are terrible. He hasn't pushed an alternate, credible lynch, in fact he hasn't done nothing. It's a really easy post to make because it doesn't mean anything. | ||
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On January 05 2013 06:29 yamato77 wrote: You claim with less than an hour left. If I want to believe you I have no time to look at anyone else. this is ripe for bad decision making. Sorry marv, you should have claimed earlier if you didn't want to die fuck off, last time i claimed with 1.5 hour to go i was told i claimed too early. now it's 40 moins to go it's too late. i claimed when i was at a computer. | ||
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On January 05 2013 06:29 marvellosity wrote: fuck off, last time i claimed with 1.5 hour to go i was told i claimed too early. now it's 40 moins to go it's too late. i claimed when i was at a computer. mostly the lesson is, towns should stop trying to fucking lynch marvellosity on day 1, because every game ever people want to lynch me day 1, i'm town, and in fact I have a role (movie, paranoia, here) | ||
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On January 05 2013 06:31 Djodref wrote: I don't think marv is a good lynch for today. Him pushing Palmar was legit, from a town point of view, because Palmar started to look town quite late. Also I think it's not fair to judge him in comparison with his performance in Rockband Mini Mafia. Also I don't disagree with much he has been saying and him being suspicious of Clarity at some point is not alignment indicative, because Clarity is not playing his usual town game (even if I'm buying his excuse as being sick for the moment). I don't think the chances for him to be mafia are high enough to justify a lynch on him, and it would be a shame to mislynch him if he is town. So I'm going to support the counter-bandwagon, and on top of that I think that BC lynch is a good lynch in itself + Show Spoiler + On January 05 2013 02:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I dont have a ton of time right now and given that most of it was spent catching up on the thread all I can say is what the fuck? Palmar is off the hook given how rampant his bullshit was all day because he posted some logs and a list of reads that all looks seems hastily put together and shit. He then makes his only case of the game against a player his own notes say specifically he would like to hold off on pursuing then suddenly his outlook changes while marv does the same shit palmar has been doing except Marv was more useful through the entire day. People need to realize that Palmar only contributed because he was harassed into doing so and has done the bare minimum since. Seriously people Marv may not have scum hunted but he was actively harassing people or pushing people to generate discussion. ##vote palmar I honestly dont get you people and the next person to suggest lynching me on inactivity should go back and read the first thing I said in this game after signing up I really don't like this post from BC, as in 'I don't like this post because it serves mafia interest'. First of all, Palmar is not going to get lynched today. Moreover, Palmar stopped trolling and was actually working on this game while masoning with Iamp. Also him pushing his marv's lynch like this makes him town in my eyes, and I think that BC should be able to see this as well. Secondly, regardless of marv alignment, I see scum motivation for this post. Defending marv and discrediting Palmar if marv is scum is good, but doing it when both of them are town is even better, because you are setting things up for lynching Palmar after marv. His post also allows him to avoid contributing by spending time in a useless tunnel. ##Vote BC where have you been? | ||
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On January 05 2013 06:32 Toadesstern wrote: finally someone who agrees with my bugs lynch. Though I've got to say the timing of that claim really was odd and I agree with Yamato. I don't think town marv would claim 30 minutes prior to deadline leaving us in total chaos. Town marv would have at least claimed something like.... idk, 2 hours prior so we got time to get our shit together? This claim does nothing but increase paranoia everywhere and we don't have enough time to figure stuff out. yes, but unfortunately i'm not going to tell my boyfriend's mother to fuck off when she wants to play a game. | ||
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we should lynch Meapak. I just got home and clicked on his filter quickly because i thought of something. Apart from being absolutely useless, he has been very opportunistic - he attacked me at the start, then he agreed with me on Palmar and went over to Palmar, and then he liekd Palmar's case on me and went over to marv. this totally reminds me of bang bang mafia when i thought gonzaw was scum and he was encouraging me then not encouraging me then encouraging me to shoot him depending on what the thread thought. MZ lhynch? | ||
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On January 05 2013 06:49 Palmar wrote: you're all idiots. no, you're a fucking idiot. people lynch Meapak with me pelase. | ||
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On January 05 2013 06:52 Palmar wrote: Seriously fuck this game. Enjoy i'm not going to do fucking shit for the rest of it. You're gullible idiots. no, youre blinded by your own arrogance which is even greater than mnine, and you're about to lynch somoene who you know wil contribute all through the game and can make good reads. | ||
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On January 05 2013 06:56 wherebugsgo wrote: Palmar routinely calls me scum, I think he has been right only once. That was over a year ago. And, to use his own words, even a broken clock is correct twice a day. + Show Spoiler + I have the luxury of saying that I have been right about his alignment far more often than he has been right about mine and the only reason I mention this is to make him more mad LOL@marv, while I find meapak scummy I don't think his lynch is happening today. Thoughts on Hopeless? Before you either die or BC does lol i've not had much time to look at hopeless specifically, but nothing screamed scum at me when i read his posts | ||
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On January 05 2013 06:58 Palmar wrote: Are you proud that you're so bad at town that you're virtually unreadable? are you proud of yourself that you want to lynch one of the most competent townies on day 1 for no reason other than your shitting ego? go away palmar. | ||
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On January 05 2013 06:58 Promethelax wrote: Why did you vote MZ when you thought you were fucked Marv? You scum trying to wifom us? for exactly why i wrote about him, dufus. | ||
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On January 05 2013 06:59 Palmar wrote: If you think I'm red you need to have your brain checked. same to you. | ||
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On January 05 2013 07:02 Clarity_nl wrote: I'm not sure what will make me feel more offended, if bc flips scum or town..... Seriously, I've never met anyone irl that calls people faggots and I hope I'll never have to. i do all the time, but only my own kind ;p | ||
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On January 05 2013 07:17 Palmar wrote: nice going assholes. fuck off, i'm still town. | ||
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On January 05 2013 07:18 kushm4sta wrote: because he got counterclaimed right? yeah, didn't expect another one o.o | ||
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On January 05 2013 07:27 Palmar wrote: So BC is basically an asshole who faked a check on me. That's okay with 2 cops dead and marv as a cop too!!!! (yeah right...) we probably have plenty of them. go away. your time is over. | ||
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On January 05 2013 07:27 VisceraEyes wrote: If that's not an argument against LAL I don't know what is. I say we lynch Foolishness next. Who down? no, Meapak. | ||
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On January 05 2013 07:35 grush57 wrote: marv is town when he is scum he is nice to me. well, that was easy. lol. | ||
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I said it like 5 minutes before deadline, but my memory of Bang Bang Mafia is Meapak toying with my emotions over gonzaw, who I thought was scum but was actually town. Meapak's play this game has been marked with opportunism. He jumped from side to side with the me vs Palmar thing, thusly: Palmar is town! On January 03 2013 07:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: This just in, palmar most likely town. More in a few hours when I get home. On January 03 2013 12:22 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: nothing, I'm willing to kill tunkeg, that's more. Palmar still town although supersoft is right that I maybe shouldn't have pointed it out. In my defense, if I was scum I could have just told my teammates and let the thread fight it out. answer me on palmar, marv: On January 04 2013 05:38 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Hey marv, I read your filter and your posting is literally as content free as mine has been thus far. I'm not even joking, if you don't believe me reread his filter. Marv I want at least one mediocre post from you where you actually explain why Palmar needs to die. Mediocre marv, I'm not asking for a lot here. I have to go pick my sister up, I'll be back in like 45 minutes. On January 04 2013 06:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: So many massive epeenz over compensating lol. Marv answer me. On January 04 2013 08:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Look at the pot and the kettle. Pull your head out and answer my earlier question. And no, "read my filter" is not a suitable response. So he calls Palmar town straight off the bat, when Palmar had already been trolling, ya. The best bit is that he is suspicious of me first and foremost, trying to prod me or something. So Palmar town, marvellosity bad, nice. Anyways, a few votes start going on Palmar, led by me, Toad, etc. Palmar is playing exactly the same as before, and yet... Palmar is scum! :o On January 04 2013 10:30 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: hey guys wanna just kill palmar for claiming scum? I mean I was fine with him up until this page but since he's so adamant that he's scum then let's just help him to exit the game at the earliest opportunity. On January 04 2013 10:51 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Yeah. It looks like he's trying a "hide in plain sight" sort of thing. I thought in the beginning he was doing his usual trolling to get discussion started (there's actually a game where he describes exactly what he does as town I just forget which one). Basically it goes something along the lines of propose something so stupid it's just begging for people to jump on it for free town cred and then tear the ones apart who use that as a crutch to look protown. That's what I assumed he was trying here but now I'm thinking he's just acting as scummy as possible on the assumption that everyone will just assume he's trolling and ignore him. There is zero reason for town to do that so occam's razor says if Palmar says he's scum, he's scum. On January 04 2013 19:12 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I'm down with this happening. A huge focus in the beginning should be about demonstrating your innocence and Palmar is flat out not doing that, if he wants to trollishly call himself scum I'd have let him get away with that assuming that he was planning on making something useful out of the discussion he started with his "lynch wbg" nonsense. Since he's declined to do that and instead continued to troll I'm ready to get rid of him. Now the thing is, having thought I was scummy, that I had a contentless filter, that I was useless, basically I was just a complete baddie, now he fully agrees with me on Palmar, making this post AFTER I make my quite good post about my IRC chats with Palmar. So he's gone from marv scumread Palmar townread to marv townread Palmar scumread even though nothing much has happened. Well, what has happened is that at that point the sentiment of the thread was AGAINST Palmar, before the release of his logs and spreadsheet. Again I would add that MZ went from adamant Palmar was town early, to adamant he's scum, when Palmar's play had not changed. Just this totally random complete 180. Palmar is town, marv is scum! :OOO On January 04 2013 21:03 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Part of me thinks this is you trying to make sure you don't get lynched as scum now that your bluff has been called but a bigger part of me says there's bigger fish to fry and you actually are town like I originally thought. Oh and fyi you have called me bad/terrible/awful/stupid/some other adjective that implies idiocy in almost every game I've played with you. idk what game it was from but my personal favorite was "oh that's MZ, I wondered who was trying to break the world record for retard." lol holy shit, the final flip flop! Now the sentiment of the thread, remember, has gone pro-Palmar. The spreadsheet, the logs, the case on marv etc. So now obviously Meapak wants to kill marv after all. Meapak has consistently flipflopped on his opinion of Palmar and I, basically going with teh sentiment of the thread. He never has his own opinions, he's only sheeping town mentality. Bonus - Tunkeg! Kinda amidst all of this, there's a side-story on Tunkeg. Anyways, it starts: On January 03 2013 12:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Let's kill tunkeg. So Tunkeg is scum, right? Where's the case? On January 04 2013 09:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: It's not a very hard case which is the only thing that stopped me from writing it. It felt too easy. It's not a very hard case which is the only thing that stopped him writing it, it's too easy. What does that mean? See, to most of the players in the game, it meant that people thought Tunkeg was just being his usual belligerent townie self, and they didn't think he was scum. But Meapak called him scum. Which means Meapak didn't think this. 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On January 05 2013 08:09 Chezinu wrote: Tubes filled with explosives are fun, especially when they are on scum. oh my god I get this one! vig tube! | ||
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On January 05 2013 05:35 froggynoddy wrote: Yes BC marv scumteam does make sense. But no, targeting Palmar I think looks townie. Your not sheeping and you could argue that Palmar effed up the thread at the start and then waltzes in to clean the mess thus completely leading/manipulating town and as such you could make a case that this is anti town (like WBG seems to be doing). However the argument goes both ways, either PAlmar is playing very good townie, or he is playing very good scum. I don't think Palmar that Palmar's play is really indicative of alignment... its just quite baffling IMHO. So to summarise, going after PAlmar seems pro-town, but theres minimal risk involved and doesnt really stand up to scrutiny. lol just noticed this post. this is some epic waffle. | ||
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On January 05 2013 08:59 yamato77 wrote: Marv you are good scum. tomorrow I tunnel you npnp keeping up your epic streak sweetheart :> | ||
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On January 04 2013 23:19 froggynoddy wrote: Ok so I just had a long post written before deleting it by accident (control Z on a french keyboard is control w -_-°). Thankfully I was defending MArv before I read his most recent posts, this I can now reconsider I personally would prefer a BC lynch. His posts all 'look' like he is helping town when he is not contributing anthing constructive that will be of help to town in the long run. He also jumped in to defend me when at best good players should have a null read on me s I have been pretty terribad. Scum seem more likely to jump in and help than town as, in the offchance that I flip; they would gain a little cred from me flipping town. I also still think if marv is scum then this is the worst Ive seen him play, which I guess is possible. I would also consider the fact that I think the town atmosphere in Day 1 (vets trolling, noobs like me trying to play serious to ahem disastrous effet) could have affected playstyle. that being said of the current list of candidates marv seems scummiest... I would prefer a BC or even Toad lynch as I a lot of what I've said against BC could be applied to toad. . hey froggy, can you tell me: what made you want to defend me, and what was it about my recent posts that totally changed your mind and I'm suddenly the scummiest of the current list of candidates? ta. | ||
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On January 05 2013 09:34 Palmar wrote: are you fucking insane toad? I'm basically confirmed town to half the thread and you're asking people not to protect me? you're blates red to BC who flipped town <3 | ||
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On January 05 2013 09:37 Palmar wrote: BC is terrible at day 1 scumhunting. so are you, you had me and him in the red. sorry brah | ||
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On January 05 2013 10:00 Djodref wrote: @ marv Who do you think mafia was voting at the end of day 1 ? 4-2, 2-4, 3-2-1, 3-3. Something like that. | ||
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On January 05 2013 10:09 Djodref wrote: So you mean they were mainly voting BC and you, even if you are both supposed to be town ? where else would you expect scum to be voting, dear? | ||
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On January 05 2013 10:13 Djodref wrote: Well, I agree with Keir on this one, if you are scum, they vote BC, if you are town, they are more spread out... What do you think of Vivax, WBG and Jackal votes ? this is pretty much stating the obvious, yes. Jackal I have no idea. Vivax's vote looks kinda bad but I'm not seeing scum in him right now otherwise. wbg's is the weirdest. He could be town with townreads on BC and I both, or he could be scum with prior knowledge of alignments. That said, I don't know why he'd make himself stick out by voting someone on the outside, seems kinda an unnecessary way to draw attention to himself. | ||
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On January 05 2013 10:21 Keirathi wrote: Okey, reading up on MZ, froggy, and kush. Post soon. make sure you read my case on him, babycakes | ||
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On January 05 2013 10:25 VisceraEyes wrote: Are you afraid he'll come to a different conclusion otherwise? no, i'm a good player and i have insight to give. | ||
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On January 05 2013 10:30 Foolishness wrote: It's really easy actually. Here's his filter from this game: This Game Here's his filter from Mafia XLVII: XLVII They look pretty similar don't they? Guess what role he was in XLVII? you know, I was about to look at you funny for picking on something that seemed small and silly, but then I found his town filter from Newbie XXI: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=351398&user=34440 not quite the same. | ||
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But the fact remains he flipflopped according to the sentiment in the thread, and his tunkeg attitude just doesn't add up, and that's nothing to do with me really. Keirathi - you've got some experience with Cheesecake and debears. I'd like you to tell me what you see. | ||
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On January 05 2013 17:47 wherebugsgo wrote: if he doesn't improve his play tomorrow, I might be convinced. However, I am almost sure that there will be a better lynch. If either of Hopeless and tube are alive tomorrow they will both make better lynches IMO. what is this? I've made the best/only case post-flip, and my play in general has been quite ok, except for Palmar salivating all over me. | ||
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On January 05 2013 10:59 Keirathi wrote: debears is trolling with chezinu, which I assume means they are probably masons (have they actually claimed masons? I don't remember seeing it if they have. maybe I just haven't gotten there yet). Dunno who initiated the masonry, though. Probably debears, since he seemed quite concerned with mason stuff early game. Probably town, then. I don't have any experience playing with CC, and I generally just don't attempt to meta people that I haven't played with, but I did like kush's statement that CC was more jokey as town and more serious as scum, at least in the past. Nothing in his filter screams scum to me, though. You seemed quite willing to lynch him, so do explain. debears and chez are highly unlikely to be masons, because that means one of them masoned the other, and I just don't see that happening. I want to lynch Cheesecake because his play isn't like anything I've seen before from him, but ALL the differences are maria oriented - lurking, not caring about the lynch, not pushing any cases. | ||
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On January 05 2013 11:04 Keirathi wrote: Also @marv: You are quite good, as scum, at taking things townies do and using them as cases to get hte lynched, no? I mean, you win quite often as scum, and your lynches get pushed through. So saying your alignment has no bearing on the case on MZ is just flat out wrong. Say the case I wrote, the name at the top was kitaman. How does it change the case? Or is it just objectively good? | ||
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On January 05 2013 18:37 Lazermonkey wrote: So I woke up... Marv may very well be scum after all. Two slow alignment cops seems quite unlikely, espesially given that we had a day cop as well. I actually like his case on MZ tho. Especially the points regarding Tunkeg. But I'm puzzled. I'm not keen at lynching him at all tomorrow because most likely both of them are NOT scum. And I'm more suspicious of Marv. A vigi shot on tube is bad also imo. The vigi(s), if there are any, should be aiming for the most suspicous person. Not a retarded lurker You better explain all of this drivel. You like my case, but MZ is most likely not scum? Why? Seriously, explain yourself. Why is a vig shot on tube bad? Have you even read the thread this night time? Did you see the comparison filters that Foolish/I put forward? How on earth is he a bad shot in light of that? | ||
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On January 05 2013 21:33 kushm4sta wrote: Hey Lazer you are wishy washing hard on Marv. You will or will not want to lynch marv tomorrow? Also I think you are scum esp that middle part. Can you clarify what you meant there, making clearer who you think is most likely town. * Also I have irrefutable evidence that marv is scum. I will post this at work later. you are now a good lynch because of LAL well done kush | ||
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On January 05 2013 19:09 supersoft wrote: not at night. I don't wanna catch a bullet :D that's why i am not raging like a madman after you killed BC and not marv. yeah, you said you had a scumread on BC too, so you just need to shut up. Both you and Palmar are 0/2 and probably one of you are scum. | ||
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Anyway, because I like you I'm going back to look at a previous game or two of Sentinel's (LIII and Redux filters are open in my tabs presently) | ||
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On January 05 2013 22:06 Lazermonkey wrote: I don't see how its strange. My thought process 1.) I think your are quite suspicious 2.) I think you have some good points about MZ, making me somewhat suspicious of him as well. 3.) You both are probebly both not scum 4.) I find you more suspicous than MZ 5.) Thus I don't think it's very likely that MZ is scum 6.) If you actually are town, then I'm truly suspicous of MZ once again. you really don't know how to play mafia, do you | ||
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Please do so about now. | ||
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On January 05 2013 22:10 Lazermonkey wrote: Read Palmars filter. You shall find the answer! no, that's not good enough. YOU need to give a really good reason why I am more suspicious than MZ this game. Look at our relative contributions, look at our relative investment. Stop jerking your puny little dick in Palmar's direction because you're too fucking pathetic to think for yourself. | ||
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On January 05 2013 22:14 Lazermonkey wrote: I don't see how it's a problem. Another thing that makes me doubt you is the fact that already 2 DTs have flipped, one was day slow DT... It's a problem because when morons like you who refuse to think themselves sheep someone and they're wrong, that means all of a sudden a third of town is voting for someone because they can't utilise their own brains. Please use yours. You just made a pretty decent case on Hopeless, so now do your own work on me. | ||
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makes me sad. | ||
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Fucking sheepception. THIS IS NOT MAFIA GUYS. | ||
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On January 05 2013 22:18 Lazermonkey wrote: I don't see how me repeating like 90% of Palmar's case would help us really. If you can do it in your own words, then it would help, because you'd have to believe it to type it. And then when you're looking at my filter and MZ's, you can think which of us is likelier to be scum, and which of us cares about the game more. For fuck's sake child. | ||
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So you also go into my ignore column for now, Lazer. Too many :< | ||
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On January 05 2013 22:27 Clarity_nl wrote: You keep saying you "think" things without explaining why. Why do you think it's so unlikely for a scum marv to be bussing a teammate who he knows won't be lynched today, Everytime you have an answer and the answer includes "I think", try asking "why do I think that" and if that answer includes "I think" do it again. repeat this process until you reach facts or an opinion that makes bloody sense. eh, the real question is, why don't you think MZ will be lynched today? I find it highly likely. | ||
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On January 05 2013 22:28 kushm4sta wrote: do people realize marv has almost a 20 page filter already? who knows how much more space has been taken up by answers to his many fruitless interrogations. kill marv, kill the spam. help make this game playable for anyone with a life. how does this make me scum, you fucking moron? | ||
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wp to the scumteam, watching town implode. Sorry to the players for quitting, it was super lame. If you want to shout at me for being a douche, I'd rather you took it to PMs. | ||
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On August 26 2010 13:08 Ver wrote: Look how distinctly similar this game is to Foolishness's post in Plexa's game (and overall play of course). In that game, BC and Pyrr fought each other the entire time and he made a great effort to stop them from fighting and get them to focus on the lurking mafia Ecomania. Of course he was not entirely right, as Pyrr was indeed mafia while BC was innocent. But compare this scenario to the current game, where he says Pyrr and Bill Murray are innocent, tries to stop them from fighting, and focuses on other targets. In this case, Youngminii. Note how similar his analysis and thinking patterns are. Foolishness as town clearly has a heavy tendency to weigh in on these massive battles. He should have either have been defending or attacking me, not ignoring me. | ||
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On January 12 2013 00:58 supersoft wrote: CC, froggynoddy, toadesstern, marv all played innacceptabel. for the future we need a much harder punishment for these kind of plays. i guess VE rage outburst shouldnt be punished further... the modkill is enough punishment. he played the game and wanted to win. he had one inapropriate moment. Calling for modkills of other players (VE) in-thread isn't acceptable either, dear. | ||
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On January 12 2013 01:14 supersoft wrote: so you think i should have been modkilled? no, I don't, of course. What I did was banworthy and what you did wasn't, although you probably know you should have taken it to the host in PMs rather than the thread | ||
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On January 12 2013 01:47 Clarity_nl wrote: Yeah Djo's scum play scares me I became incredibly suspicious of Djo right around where I ragequit. Witness the following posts: On January 05 2013 06:38 Djodref wrote: Do you have any breadcrumb by the way ? On January 05 2013 09:14 Djodref wrote: @ Keir Did you cacth up with the whole thread now ? What do you make of this day ? Do you think mafia was on BC's lynch ? Also I would like to know if the fact that we have already 2 cops dead change anything about your read on marv. On January 05 2013 10:00 Djodref wrote: @ marv Who do you think mafia was voting at the end of day 1 ? All these questions/points are useless, and serve no direction. He's asking all the wrong questions. | ||
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On January 12 2013 02:09 kushm4sta wrote: Marv would not have been lynched if he didn't have a bitch fit and quit. That was town losing a blue no for reason. Also apparently marv knew the entire scumteam right after he rq lol...that thanks of depriving town of your immense genius. And if VE did not get modkilled for "behavior" whatever that means we would have had one more chance to lynch right. no, I didn't, and if it came across that way it shouldn't. At the time I quit, my strongest read was MZ (incorrect), then Foolish, Djo (correct), Cheesecake (incorrect), supersoft (correct), and froggy (incorrect). | ||
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For the love of god, leave me until day 3 when i'm not catching scum or being productive. My day 1 reads are terrible and most of the time I'm just prodding to try to find out what's going on. | ||
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On January 13 2013 07:38 supersoft wrote: thats why it's stupid to lynch vets d1-d2... funny you should mention that. I don't know if you read the obsQT at all, but bugs said that as town you would never have lynched me so easily without giving me a chance day 1 if you were town. | ||
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