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HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
January 04 2013 20:43 GMT
#1761
On January 05 2013 05:38 wherebugsgo wrote:
Foolishness, I want to hear your thoughts on yamato when you read this.

Please tell me which way you would lean with this statement:

Yamato being agreeable and not outspoken is indicative of him being scum/not indicative of

Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 05:33 HiroPro wrote:
On January 05 2013 05:29 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 05 2013 05:21 HiroPro wrote:
On January 05 2013 05:05 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 05 2013 05:01 iamperfection wrote:
On January 05 2013 04:56 Lazermonkey wrote:
Hi, I am back. Eating and posting at the same time FTW

I don't like BC lynch. His play is really truly strange, but there is one question I ask myself and cannot get answered: Why would scum BC put up a case on Palmar out of ALL players...?

I am getting more and more uncomfortable with Marv lynch. I'd actually much rather kill Hopeless at this point tho I'm not sure if we will be able to gather enough votes for that. will evaluate a bit more in a bit. Need to eat first lol.


Scum bc would put a case on palmar to look like he is contributing when he is in fact not.
Yhea but why couldn't he just push someone else and not appear dumb like he is now. Especialy considering he was already under some fire even before his case.


I doubt that his intention by voting for Palmar was to make it look like he was doing something. Despite his attitude, it shouldn't be very hard to see that Palmar is likely town. And BC is an excellent player, so the simplest explanation is simply that BC is mafia himself and is trying to discredit Palmar (assuming that marvellosity is actually town, which I think is right).
But why discredit Palmar when basically everyone got him down as town? It just makes him look stupid. Unless of course both him and Marv were to be scum, which I guess would be possible but almost too good to be true.


Palmar is a player who people judge almost entirely by whether he is right or wrong on the lynches that he leads.


Which is funny, given that he is often just as wrong as anyone else.

He's just extremely obnoxious about taking credit for the lynches where he either gets lucky or was loud enough to get someone who was obvious scum lynched.

He's not someone like sandro, you can't judge his alignment based on him being right or wrong. Palmar, I would say, has about a 50% chance of being right. Players like sandro and foolishness I'd put at 80 or 90%.


It doesn't actually matter how correct he is or whether or not that is the correct play does it bugs (and I would actually be inclined to agree with you)? The simple fact is that that is how people have been regarding him recently.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 04 2013 20:43 GMT
#1762
Okay, I've decided to swap to BC if Hopeless isn't happening. I don't think he is scum but I don't think Marv is scum either. And I'd rather have town Marv left alive than town BC(sry BC : /...).

But please do check Hopeless!
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 04 2013 20:45 GMT
#1763
Well whatever I'm not around for a while now, iamp is not responding on IRC anyway.

Seeing as the only possible counterwagon to marv at this point is BC I'm perfectly fine with whatever happening. We're lynching BC tomorrow anyway.
Computer says mafia
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 04 2013 20:46 GMT
#1764
bugs an keir scum team spouting nonsense about me being scum

you guys have zero insight into my play
Writer@WriterYamato
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 20:46 GMT
#1765
I really think any kind of lynch between Marv / BC / Hopeless / maybe VE would be awesome right now.

But Palmars the man and he says it's Marv and not the other 3 guys, so Marv it is.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 04 2013 20:46 GMT
#1766
On January 05 2013 05:46 yamato77 wrote:
bugs an keir scum team spouting nonsense about me being scum

you guys have zero insight into my play


when did I call you scum?

kinda ultra-defensive here. You mad bro?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 04 2013 20:47 GMT
#1767
On January 05 2013 05:40 HiroPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 05:36 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 05 2013 05:33 HiroPro wrote:
On January 05 2013 05:29 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 05 2013 05:21 HiroPro wrote:
On January 05 2013 05:05 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 05 2013 05:01 iamperfection wrote:
On January 05 2013 04:56 Lazermonkey wrote:
Hi, I am back. Eating and posting at the same time FTW

I don't like BC lynch. His play is really truly strange, but there is one question I ask myself and cannot get answered: Why would scum BC put up a case on Palmar out of ALL players...?

I am getting more and more uncomfortable with Marv lynch. I'd actually much rather kill Hopeless at this point tho I'm not sure if we will be able to gather enough votes for that. will evaluate a bit more in a bit. Need to eat first lol.


Scum bc would put a case on palmar to look like he is contributing when he is in fact not.
Yhea but why couldn't he just push someone else and not appear dumb like he is now. Especialy considering he was already under some fire even before his case.


I doubt that his intention by voting for Palmar was to make it look like he was doing something. Despite his attitude, it shouldn't be very hard to see that Palmar is likely town. And BC is an excellent player, so the simplest explanation is simply that BC is mafia himself and is trying to discredit Palmar (assuming that marvellosity is actually town, which I think is right).
But why discredit Palmar when basically everyone got him down as town? It just makes him look stupid. Unless of course both him and Marv were to be scum, which I guess would be possible but almost too good to be true.


Palmar is a player who people judge almost entirely by whether he is right or wrong on the lynches that he leads.
I'm sorry, I may be abit tired, stupid and what not but I don't see how it's relevant to the point you are making.


What I mean is that while most people have said that they consider Palmar town, there will be a backlash against him if he is wrong about marvellosity. BC's post looks to me more like an attempt to fuel that when it starts than anything else.
Okey, I get it. though I think it might be a bit of a stretch but w/e.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 04 2013 20:48 GMT
#1768
hey palmar take a look at me and tell me what you think. I had literally no comments in your reads spreadsheet earlier.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 04 2013 20:49 GMT
#1769
On January 05 2013 05:48 Hopeless1der wrote:
hey palmar take a look at me and tell me what you think. I had literally no comments in your reads spreadsheet earlier.

I found you boring initially can't remember why so I didn't read your posts.

I might at some point but you could do me a favor and just play super protown so I don't have to?
Computer says mafia
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 04 2013 20:49 GMT
#1770
On January 05 2013 05:46 yamato77 wrote:
bugs an keir scum team spouting nonsense about me being scum

you guys have zero insight into my play

I have zero insight into your play? I seem to remember calling your town quite fervently in Parallel. I was right that time, wasn't I?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 21:04:03
January 04 2013 20:50 GMT
#1771
Day 1 Votecount



Marvellosity (11) <----- Gonna get lynched
Palmar
supersoft
kushm4sta
Toadesstern
iamperfection
debears
Mr. Cheesecake
tube
Meapak_Ziphh
Chezinu
yamato77

BloodyC0bbler (6)
marvellosity
Clarity_nl
Hopeless1der
HiroPro
froggynoddy
[UoN]Sentinel

Toadesstern (2)
Foolishness
VisceraEyes

hopeless1der(2)
wherebugsgo
Lazermonkey

Palmar (1)
BloodyC0bbler

tube(1)
Vivax

wherebugsgo (1)
Jackal58

Haven't yet voted (6) <--------- Gonna get modkilled
Eywa-
grush57
Djodref
Keirathi
thrawn2112
Promethelax


Day ends in 1.5 hours.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 04 2013 20:51 GMT
#1772
Hey guys, it's okay, Palmar said it's okay to BC.

Do it for justice.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 04 2013 20:53 GMT
#1773
I'm very sure I'm not voting palmar.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 04 2013 20:54 GMT
#1774
can the non-voters please drop a placeholder at least? djo,keir thrawn i think you guys are around
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 04 2013 20:54 GMT
#1775
why the fuck is BC's vote on marv in the list?

Miscount in there, hosts should really check that.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
January 04 2013 20:55 GMT
#1776
BC voted for Palmar here, not marvellosity: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17423262
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
January 04 2013 20:56 GMT
#1777
Irc isnt working palmar I will not oppose you though.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 04 2013 20:58 GMT
#1778
On January 05 2013 05:46 Toadesstern wrote:
I really think any kind of lynch between Marv / BC / Hopeless / maybe VE would be awesome right now.

But Palmars the man and he says it's Marv and not the other 3 guys, so Marv it is.

If you're so comfortable with a marv lynch, then at least give me some discussions on my counter-points about marv. Maybe you think I'm terrible and my reasoning doesn't matter, but just humor me, k?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 04 2013 20:58 GMT
#1779
On January 05 2013 05:56 iamperfection wrote:
Irc isnt working palmar I will not oppose you though.


<_iamperfection>
<Palmar> therre you are
<Palmar> what's up
<_iamperfection> phone
<Palmar> haha ok
<Palmar> Well anything special you wanted to say?
<_iamperfection> is like more marv
<Palmar> lol
<_iamperfection> bc lynch better
<Palmar> I don't even know what that means
<Palmar> who cares
<Palmar> marv lynch is solid and backed up with good reasons
<Palmar> we're not changing it now
<_iamperfection> how good it
<_iamperfection> how good you feel about it
<Palmar> idk
<Palmar> 80-90%?
<Palmar> or well
<Palmar> I don't know
<Palmar> I always start to second guess my reads near deadlines
<Palmar> which is why I tend to just walk away
<Palmar> I'm going to be more mad at myself if he's scum and I let him off the hook
<Palmar> than if he's town and I mislynch him
<_iamperfection>
<_iamperfection> maybe they are both scum
* _iamperfection has quit (Quit: Page closed)

this is what he's talking about.
Computer says mafia
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 04 2013 21:00 GMT
#1780
i think it's dumb to lynch marv or palmar on d1 based on accusations of not playing up to their normal town standard when that's true with most people's play so far.

does anyone on marv bandwagon want to lynch lazermonkey or

+ Show Spoiler +
a lurker?


if neither of those can happen i'm fine with lynching bc if it means we don't lynch marv and can't do either of the first two options
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
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