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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 04 2013 12:51 GMT
#1421
Maybe it's cause I'm inexperienced, but the benefits for iamp from doing this are evident, while he clearly took the least responsibility for what they were doing. It was Palmar risking to get lynched.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 12:53 GMT
#1422
On January 04 2013 21:51 Vivax wrote:
Maybe it's cause I'm inexperienced, but the benefits for iamp from doing this are evident, while he clearly took the least responsibility for what they were doing. It was Palmar risking to get lynched.


there are no benefits for giving up KP, because iamp will be judged on his play, not his association with Palmar. he was my strongest townread before I knew he was mason with anybody.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 12:54 GMT
#1423
basically, think about other things, Vivax, please. Indulge me.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 04 2013 12:58 GMT
#1424
Palmar you're aware we can see you update your reads live, right? Anyway I'll be back in 5-6 hours.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 04 2013 12:59 GMT
#1425
On January 04 2013 21:58 Clarity_nl wrote:
Palmar you're aware we can see you update your reads live, right? Anyway I'll be back in 5-6 hours.


Do I look like I care?
Computer says mafia
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 04 2013 12:59 GMT
#1426
You never truly do, no.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 04 2013 13:03 GMT
#1427
Actually a case can be made that while posting a screenshot of your reads or something has always been fine, directly updating it in real time might be considered out of thread communication.

I guess I'll just leave it as it was at the time of posting and create a new private one.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 13:04 GMT
#1428
I was enjoying watching.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 04 2013 13:10 GMT
#1429
yeah but it seems unfair to you guys, I could for example wait until some obscure time and get someone to claim then delete it or something and since you can't be watching 24/7 your team will miss a confirmed townie roleclaim or something.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 13:11 GMT
#1430
I would have been watching 24/7, silly.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 04 2013 13:12 GMT
#1431
On January 03 2013 20:55 Lazermonkey wrote:
*snip*
Things I hold against Hopeless
1.His reaction here
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 12:16 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 03 2013 11:45 yamato77 wrote:
On January 03 2013 11:40 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 03 2013 11:38 yamato77 wrote:
What does anything these good mafia players say in the early game mean?

They basically just post to post. The only alignment indicative things they do in the game is lynch people.

Or rather, try to lynch townies. This post is useless, quite like your suspicions against me. What would you like to hear from me yamato?

Do you have any thoughts about the game that don't involve policy lynches?

yeah, palmar looks more like scum to me than town, but again, not willing to lynch into him. Toad also looks scummy because he's spewing nonsense and then telling me I'm dumb for taking him even remotely seriously. In the event that I manage to get lynched, he plays the "guys it was Day 1 I was just joking around" card.

Toad's last post isn't particularly alignment indicative, and while a nice sentiment (no town reads), it ultimately lends more to my confirmation bias that he isn't actually helping town this game, he`s just posting and being active.

2. The fact that he has posted quite a bit but yet taken a strong stance anywhere.

I have a hard time seeing how town Hopeless would react in such a way, while I can see several reasons for scum Hopeless to do so.


Lazer, what did you find scummy about Hopeless' reaction at that time? Y'know, point 1.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 13:14 GMT
#1432
lol vivax is blates town
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 04 2013 13:24 GMT
#1433
I'm quite busy atm, will answer everything in about one hour. Hold on Vivax ; )
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 13:28 GMT
#1434
Alright, while i'm here and not working at work, I'm gonna use Palmar's spreadsheet as a starting point, and only comment on the things I disagree with.

6.marvellosity - srsly supertown
8.Djodref - I wouldn't have him coloured in red. He's extremely null - he plays a VERY active scumgame (as active as me) so him being absent is just 100% bizarro.
10.Clarity - sigh, I guess null. He could be ill and scum and be telling the truth, but Palmar is probably right after all.
12.Vivax - now thinking town, based on iamp paranoia, and post just above going back and picking something extremely random from someone's filter. This is Vivax townplay, I wager.
14.VE - very sheepy, but not that red. I dunno. He could be scum, I just want to see MORE.
15.debears - null, playing really really weirdly, kinda trolly, but at the same time not obviously retardedly or omgusly. Maybe slight lean town after all.
16.bugs - seems town to me so far. seems kinda interested since he started playing. Not strong
17.Palmar - an idiot.
21.supersoft - leaning scum, having been nullish/slightly town. I know he LOVES to lick the ass of players like Palmar, but his sheep on to my case is super weak.
28.Cheesecake - stronger red now, since I've seen him post actively in British Empire while being totally uninterested in this game.

The rest of the reads I agree with the general colour of the read if not the exact reasonings, but close enough.

It should be noted that Adam is australian, so he's either just got in bed or is about to go to bed, and has had all day to be active, and has done nothing. For me this is enough to make him the top lynch for today.

##Vote: Adam4167
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 04 2013 13:55 GMT
#1435
On January 04 2013 22:28 marvellosity wrote:
Alright, while i'm here and not working at work, I'm gonna use Palmar's spreadsheet as a starting point, and only comment on the things I disagree with.

6.marvellosity - srsly supertown
8.Djodref - I wouldn't have him coloured in red. He's extremely null - he plays a VERY active scumgame (as active as me) so him being absent is just 100% bizarro.
10.Clarity - sigh, I guess null. He could be ill and scum and be telling the truth, but Palmar is probably right after all.
12.Vivax - now thinking town, based on iamp paranoia, and post just above going back and picking something extremely random from someone's filter. This is Vivax townplay, I wager.
14.VE - very sheepy, but not that red. I dunno. He could be scum, I just want to see MORE.
15.debears - null, playing really really weirdly, kinda trolly, but at the same time not obviously retardedly or omgusly. Maybe slight lean town after all.
16.bugs - seems town to me so far. seems kinda interested since he started playing. Not strong
17.Palmar - an idiot.
21.supersoft - leaning scum, having been nullish/slightly town. I know he LOVES to lick the ass of players like Palmar, but his sheep on to my case is super weak.
28.Cheesecake - stronger red now, since I've seen him post actively in British Empire while being totally uninterested in this game.

The rest of the reads I agree with the general colour of the read if not the exact reasonings, but close enough.

It should be noted that Adam is australian, so he's either just got in bed or is about to go to bed, and has had all day to be active, and has done nothing. For me this is enough to make him the top lynch for today.

##Vote: Adam4167


to get you right: Palmar and I are scum together?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 04 2013 13:56 GMT
#1436
or did you change your mind about palmar?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 04 2013 13:57 GMT
#1437
5. Meapak_Ziphh
6. marvellosity
7. Toadesstern
14. VisceraEyes
16. wherebugsgo
17. Palmar
19. Foolishness
21. supersoft
23. Jackal58
27. BloodyC0bbler

tell me, marv. Balancewise. How many of these players are scum.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 04 2013 13:57 GMT
#1438
Adam is lurky, but I actually like his post about debears. Debears advocated the use of statistics but doesn't give a fuck about them or the game in general, I feel.
That doesn't make him scum yet since he might be busy at a swinger party with his Brown brothers, but I'm waiting for his play to unfold...in a better way than his previous.

I also liked Adams' question to Clarity. Clarity picked the lurking vet, Jackal, instead of Tube, the douche lurker. Call me biased about this, but I also find it more likely that tube is scum since he was so theatrical about his post, and Adam gets townie points from me for noticing that Clarity made a weird choice.

Why don't you post reads about froggy or lazer marv? Lazer promised to post, so I can see that, but froggy?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 13:57 GMT
#1439
On January 04 2013 22:56 supersoft wrote:
or did you change your mind about palmar?


I changed my mind about Palmar for now.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 14:00 GMT
#1440
On January 04 2013 22:57 supersoft wrote:
5. Meapak_Ziphh
6. marvellosity
7. Toadesstern
14. VisceraEyes
16. wherebugsgo
17. Palmar
19. Foolishness (based purely on what Palmar said about him trolling)
21. supersoft
23. Jackal58
27.BloodyC0bbler

tell me, marv. Balancewise. How many of these players are scum.

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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