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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 07:27 GMT
#1288
well it's 8:00 am in europe right now, so I doubt there's going to be anything soon here.

Also doesn't look like Eywa is going to post anything at all. Weird that noone went after him so far. I would have considered him an easy way to park your vote as a mafia and thought he'll get a mention from someone. Is mafia happy about how things are going right now?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 15:33 GMT
#1533
so are we lynching Marv? I'm around page 70 and I like what I'm seeing in palmars reads. Agree with most stuff in there (maybe a little exception on CL who's on "slightly leaning mafia, but not willing to lynch" in my sheet) so it really does look like a good idea to lynch Marv imo.

So yeah, could get behind a Marv or a VE lynch.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 15:36 GMT
#1535
Actually I'm getting myself something to eat to watch the fireworks like that. I'll keep my vote on Marv right now. See you in about an hour.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 16:48 GMT
#1591
On January 05 2013 01:45 froggynoddy wrote:
I still don't feel confident with a Marv lynch. As no one cares about BC Ill vote for Toad.



why?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 16:55 GMT
#1597
On January 05 2013 01:51 froggynoddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 23:19 froggynoddy wrote:

I personally would prefer a BC lynch. His posts all 'look' like he is helping town when he is not contributing anthing constructive that will be of help to town in the long run. He also jumped in to defend me when at best good players should have a null read on me s I have been pretty terribad. Scum seem more likely to jump in and help than town as, in the offchance that I flip; they would gain a little cred from me flipping town. I also still think if marv is scum then this is the worst Ive seen him play, which I guess is possible. I would also consider the fact that I think the town atmosphere in Day 1 (vets trolling, noobs like me trying to play serious to ahem disastrous effet) could have affected playstyle. that being said of the current list of candidates marv seems scummiest... I would prefer a BC or even Toad lynch as I a lot of what I've said against BC could be applied to toad.


okay to get this straight:

BC is mafia because
  • is not actually contributing
  • tried to defend you

Out of this might list of scumtreats (2 things in total, nothing wrong with that though) I am also town because A LOT of what you said against BC could be applied to me. I guess a lot = 1 thing?

Go vote BC if you want to but don't pull this bullshit on me
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 17:24 GMT
#1618
On January 05 2013 02:20 froggynoddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 01:55 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 05 2013 01:51 froggynoddy wrote:
On January 04 2013 23:19 froggynoddy wrote:

I personally would prefer a BC lynch. His posts all 'look' like he is helping town when he is not contributing anthing constructive that will be of help to town in the long run. He also jumped in to defend me when at best good players should have a null read on me s I have been pretty terribad. Scum seem more likely to jump in and help than town as, in the offchance that I flip; they would gain a little cred from me flipping town. I also still think if marv is scum then this is the worst Ive seen him play, which I guess is possible. I would also consider the fact that I think the town atmosphere in Day 1 (vets trolling, noobs like me trying to play serious to ahem disastrous effet) could have affected playstyle. that being said of the current list of candidates marv seems scummiest... I would prefer a BC or even Toad lynch as I a lot of what I've said against BC could be applied to toad.


okay to get this straight:

BC is mafia because
  • is not actually contributing
  • tried to defend you

Out of this might list of scumtreats (2 things in total, nothing wrong with that though) I am also town because A LOT of what you said against BC could be applied to me. I guess a lot = 1 thing?

Go vote BC if you want to but don't pull this bullshit on me


No-one wants to kill BC today. A couple want to kill you so Im more likely to get you killed than BC.

BC defending me is one example of appearing t look townie without actually contributing. Which is also what Im accusing you of.

There's literally just 1 guy in this game who wants to kill me right now and that's VE. Foolish never intended to get me lynched. Read his vote-post, check out his explanation, check out his reaction towards VE, read what I said about Foolish; it should be fairly obvious what's going on.

At the same time there's a bunch of people who apparently have me down as a pretty certain townie, including Marv, Supersoft, Palmar. I really don't think I'm the more likely lynch here :p

Okay and there's hopleless but he hasn't really updated his thoughts about me ever since the game started so no idea if he still think's I'm weird.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 17:33 GMT
#1622
it worked pretty damn well last game to be honest.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 17:36 GMT
#1627
On January 05 2013 02:33 marvellosity wrote:
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On January 05 2013 02:33 Toadesstern wrote:
it worked pretty damn well last game to be honest.


last game isn't this game.

well yeah but I had you down as scummy as well, I also had VE down as slighty scummy (whatever, he's VE so that's a null I guess) and besides very few people I actually agree with most stuff in palmars sheet. Like I wouldn't call Clarity town, he's still in the "might be stupid category", nothing I'd lnych but nothing I'd call town either.

So it really does look like Palmars town again.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 17:38 GMT
#1631
On January 05 2013 02:36 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 02:36 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 05 2013 02:33 marvellosity wrote:
On January 05 2013 02:33 Toadesstern wrote:
it worked pretty damn well last game to be honest.


last game isn't this game.

well yeah but I had you down as scummy as well, I also had VE down as slighty scummy (whatever, he's VE so that's a null I guess) and besides very few people I actually agree with most stuff in palmars sheet. Like I wouldn't call Clarity town, he's still in the "might be stupid category", nothing I'd lnych but nothing I'd call town either.

So it really does look like Palmars town again.


like kush you always have me scummy, and i'm usually not. But I don't trust you to pull a scumread out of a bona fide scumbucket, so whatever toad

what happened to this marv:
marvellosity
12-21-2012
08:09 PM ET (US)
pretty decent post there toad. a bit or two wrong but mostly right.


<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 17:40 GMT
#1635
that doesn't make much sense
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 17:42 GMT
#1637
you already got it :3
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 17:49 GMT
#1646
On January 05 2013 02:43 HiroPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 02:36 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 05 2013 02:33 marvellosity wrote:
On January 05 2013 02:33 Toadesstern wrote:
it worked pretty damn well last game to be honest.


last game isn't this game.

well yeah but I had you down as scummy as well, I also had VE down as slighty scummy (whatever, he's VE so that's a null I guess) and besides very few people I actually agree with most stuff in palmars sheet. Like I wouldn't call Clarity town, he's still in the "might be stupid category", nothing I'd lnych but nothing I'd call town either.

So it really does look like Palmars town again.


talk to me toad. I want to hear which ones you don't agree with in a little more detail.

  • disagree on vivax - Palmar has him down as slightly mafia, I have him down as ever so slightly town.
  • disagree on clarity - Palmar has him down as slighty town, I have him down as "might be bad, need to figure out wether he is before judging"
  • not sure about Tunk - I've got him down as a null. He is agressive but I'm not certain this isn't faked yet. It looks way over the top agressive but might be his usual style


Those are the 3 I'd say I disagree with
Leaving out djodref and MZ because I have no idea how to read those two.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 18:30 GMT
#1661
Prom the man :3
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 18:49 GMT
#1671
On January 05 2013 03:43 Promethelax wrote:
Oh, I see we're in lynch cycle.

Can anyone link me to cases against the lynch targets? And a vote count?

Also, CC, why the fuck are you seeping debears (whose name becomes defeats on my tablet) did the dude suddenly shoot sun beams out of his ass? 'Cause until that point sleeping him with out adding anything is about as smart as humping a hole in a brick wall.

d1. We're lynching marv right now, mostly because Palmar said so and people like Supersoft and myself agree about it.

Alternatives would be a policy lynch on WBG,
A lynch on me because I'm weird according to VE (?)
A lynch on BC because... I don't know hard to tell... I agree he's not looking good but I wouldn't be comfortable lynching him
A lynch on VE for doing stuff other people want to do ALL THE TIME
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 19:08 GMT
#1677
Marv if you happen to flip town, who do we lynch?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 19:09 GMT
#1682
On January 05 2013 04:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
Why would you say that Palmar is the most anti-town player in the game and proceed to vote for someone else?

Like, I get it, you don't know if he's scum or town...but doesn't it follow logically that anti-town = scum? Like, even if his posts and reads left you in doubt, would not his general play (according to you, poisonously anti-town) push him over into the scum column?

finally you're starting to make sense. Come on to the right side and give WBG that "KILL IT WITH FIRE"-tag he deserves :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 19:10 GMT
#1684
On January 05 2013 04:08 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 04:08 Toadesstern wrote:
Marv if you happen to flip town, who do we lynch?


who am i voting dumbass

I thought you might have something to say that only makes sense with the assumption that you're town. I usually have thoughts like that myself but keep them to myself because they're useless to you guys until I flip.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 20:11 GMT
#1735
On January 05 2013 05:08 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 05:05 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 05 2013 05:01 iamperfection wrote:
On January 05 2013 04:56 Lazermonkey wrote:
Hi, I am back. Eating and posting at the same time FTW

I don't like BC lynch. His play is really truly strange, but there is one question I ask myself and cannot get answered: Why would scum BC put up a case on Palmar out of ALL players...?

I am getting more and more uncomfortable with Marv lynch. I'd actually much rather kill Hopeless at this point tho I'm not sure if we will be able to gather enough votes for that. will evaluate a bit more in a bit. Need to eat first lol.


Scum bc would put a case on palmar to look like he is contributing when he is in fact not.
Yhea but why couldn't he just push someone else and not appear dumb like he is now. Especialy considering he was already under some fire even before his case.
EBWOP: And if(I'm taking WBGs word on this) he really is known for his scum play, I don't see how he would get in such a bad position just in D1.

BC is indeed known for his scumplay, not so much for his townplay.
Not saying BC's town is bad, it's good it's just not top-X on TL.net whereas his scum-play is considered something like Sandrobas townplay, not sure if it's really that extreme or just paranoia but that's what people keep saying.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 20:46 GMT
#1765
I really think any kind of lynch between Marv / BC / Hopeless / maybe VE would be awesome right now.

But Palmars the man and he says it's Marv and not the other 3 guys, so Marv it is.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 21:12 GMT
#1790
On January 05 2013 05:58 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 05:46 Toadesstern wrote:
I really think any kind of lynch between Marv / BC / Hopeless / maybe VE would be awesome right now.

But Palmars the man and he says it's Marv and not the other 3 guys, so Marv it is.

If you're so comfortable with a marv lynch, then at least give me some discussions on my counter-points about marv. Maybe you think I'm terrible and my reasoning doesn't matter, but just humor me, k?

I'm not that comfortable with a marv lynch as it may look. I wouldn't say it's a 80-90% thing like Palmar apparently thinks. I'm more down to saying something like 50%, which is still good considering that the chance to lynch mafia on d1 is somewhat around 22% if I recall correctly from the DB . So saying marv is a confirmed mafia would be bullshit, saying Marv is a really good, if not the best lynch right now is true imo.

Marv never did a case on Palmar. Marv pressure voted Palmar, rightfully so, It has nothing to do with Marv being wrong or right on Palmar though.

Yes I agree Marv is still meta-able, it's just really hard. I don't like what I'm seeing from marv d1. Not being concrete at all and suddenly he starts dropping reads everywhere, even really concrete ones that are something like 2lines, something he wasn't able to do before. Looks to me like a panicing scum who's using his information to tell people "you're an idiot, don't lynch that guy, he's obviously town" to get some good points across.

And yeah yamato is playing a bit more reserved, I questioned him about it as well but he's still looking really townish. I'd say the reasonable eplanation is he's trying to improve after I wrote that one:
@Yamato:
less emotional would have been better Yamato. I saw you getting influenced by people and how they posted and thought you're raging a lot. And I think you did or it at least altered your reads a lot because you ended up pushing people who made you mad if I remember correctly.

I think he's paying attention to it. That might be a scumtell but I'd say he's trying to improve is the more reasonable explantion here, especially given his other posts and the sometimes old habbits comming back.
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