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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 09 2013 00:19 GMT
#3251
On January 08 2013 15:33 Promethelax wrote:
Thrawn this is my fourth game replacing in as town on d1/d2 and I was always replacing for a townie under suspicion. So I asked.

Did you read YAN?


just read through it now.... what was I supposed to see?

I see that a few times you reference not being fully caught up on the thread and you give some activity excuses here and there... that's not what the problem is this game. you don't seem in any way committed to this thread, especially considering that you are yourself. your YAN filter looks townie despite whatever your activity was like
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 09 2013 00:27 GMT
#3255
On January 09 2013 09:24 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 09:19 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 08 2013 15:33 Promethelax wrote:
Thrawn this is my fourth game replacing in as town on d1/d2 and I was always replacing for a townie under suspicion. So I asked.

Did you read YAN?


just read through it now.... what was I supposed to see?

I see that a few times you reference not being fully caught up on the thread and you give some activity excuses here and there... that's not what the problem is this game. you don't seem in any way committed to this thread, especially considering that you are yourself. your YAN filter looks townie despite whatever your activity was like


Not activity bro. You said I, as town, didn't call people retards and ask questions that Yamato thinks are useless when that is the totality of my filter in YAN (or so I'm told by Yamato). I spent a lot of time in YAN calling retards retards for being retards. I just don't see how that is something I wouldn't say as a townie since I just fucking did in the last week.


saying "x player is a retard" is something done by both town players and scum players. what i'm talking about in this game is you having a very un-prom-like anti-town attidude.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 09 2013 01:43 GMT
#3287
On January 09 2013 10:01 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 11:55 thrawn2112 wrote:
thrawn's current lynch candidates for D3 by pref: djo, prom, (MZ)

he's not down with the cc lynch. if he were to pick anyone in the game right now to be most likely to be a mislynch, it's cc.

MZ in parenthesis because he really doesn't know wtf to think about him. thrawn doesnt understand what mz could be trying to accomplish if he's actually a town mason. the refusal to show logs is just wtf.

palmar can you do something interesting tomorrow?


Please explain me how I can be your first lynch candidate, seriously. Also I would like to know your other scumreads atm.
What do you think of Hiro and Foolish ?

I understand my activity and my contributions are less than usual but I've addressed this already. I'm starting to think that you are tunneling me for the sake of tunneling someone.



Because the cc lynch seems dumb and there's no point in trying to pressure him because he's already shown that whatever his alignment is he doesn't really care about his situation. I don't want to decide on MZ until I can see the logs. The whole weirdness of the situation (super lurky/uninterested foolish + them somehow all 3 collectively not wanting to share the logs) is really making me think that there's at least 1 scum within the MZ/foolish/super triangle. probably most likely to be out of MZ/foolish
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 09 2013 01:52 GMT
#3291
On January 09 2013 10:51 Promethelax wrote:
The distinct possibility that Fool is being useless intentionally to avoid the NK so he can solve the game later?


wtf, complete speculation.... is this a serious defense?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 09 2013 02:14 GMT
#3304
kush that last post sheeps almost everything i'm saying (prom + cc) ... haven't you had me as scum for a long time? what's your most current read on me?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 09 2013 02:15 GMT
#3305
ebwop

On January 09 2013 11:14 thrawn2112 wrote:
kush that last post sheeps almost everything i'm saying (prom + cc) ... haven't you had me as scum for a long time? what's your most current read on me?


was referring to THIS post.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 09 2013 02:23 GMT
#3314
On January 09 2013 11:17 Promethelax wrote:
weee, I'm blates town you guys.

Don't really care what Kush thinks since he is dumb as fuck and has no idea how to read anyone but I thought better of you Thrawn.

I wish Keir was still in this game, at least he knows and understands my meta. Your meta cases are bad. You are bad. Stop being bad.


it's not just about meta attitude differences...

where is your scumhunting? where are your suspicions? you're all about sheeping on these debears/cc lynches but those are like the least original topics of conversation atm.. even in that above post you don't look like you're scumhunting:

On January 09 2013 11:17 Promethelax wrote:
Don't really care what Kush thinks since he is dumb as fuck and has no idea how to read anyone but I thought better of you Thrawn.


What are your reads on kush and thrawn in this statement? It doesn't look like you're in anyway suspicious of their suspicions of you. Are you suggesting thrawn/kush might be scum?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 09 2013 03:03 GMT
#3336
On January 09 2013 11:36 Promethelax wrote:
Nope, sorry yamato. I have done enough, I have found two guys I'm highly confidant will flip scum. I don't need to go find more probable scummers. CC and Dibbers are scum, you agree hell most of thread agrees. So no, I'm not scum but you can keep calling me scum if you want.


yes, it's very difficult to look at cc's filter and say he's probably scum o.0......... as for your debears vote, you are sheeping a case that 1) I mostly disagree with and 2) you have not added much of anything to it yourself besides the fact that you agree with it
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 09 2013 03:13 GMT
#3341
On January 09 2013 12:10 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 12:08 iamperfection wrote:
On January 09 2013 11:49 yamato77 wrote:
On January 09 2013 11:34 iamperfection wrote:
On January 09 2013 11:34 yamato77 wrote:
On January 09 2013 11:33 iamperfection wrote:
On January 09 2013 11:32 yamato77 wrote:
On January 09 2013 11:30 Promethelax wrote:
On January 09 2013 11:27 yamato77 wrote:
On January 09 2013 11:17 Promethelax wrote:
weee, I'm blates town you guys.

Don't really care what Kush thinks since he is dumb as fuck and has no idea how to read anyone but I thought better of you Thrawn.

I wish Keir was still in this game, at least he knows and understands my meta. Your meta cases are bad. You are bad. Stop being bad.

Prom what about this:

I don't think you give a shit about figuring this game out at all.

Your scum reads are lazy. I am allowed to be lazy because I'm town but you're nowhere near as townie as me and you're being lazy which means you're scum.


Hi, I like being scum more than being town. I have never played a lazy game of mafia in my life. You are trying to tunnel me and call me scum after sheeping me and saying you would sheep me and I still have a town read on you because you are actually this terrible. Do you understand why I might be being lazy? There are a huge number of players in this game who are doing either nothing or nothing with any intelligent thought in it. I have two pretty clear scum reads. I plan on getting them lynched. I don't particularly care if you think I am scum so long as you'll vote for scum with me.

See I agree with all of this because that's how I feel at the moment but that doesn't make you town necessarily.

The difference is, no one is trying to get me lynched. They are trying to get you lynched though which means you should be trying harder than me right now to find scum.

lol

What's funny?

you

Please do explain.

I'm not pushing his lynch I just want to interact with him a bit to see what he thinks.

you said prom should have to try harder than you and thats bs.

I mainly just want to see him react to me calling him scum and compare that to YANMM.



what's the point of that if you're telling him that's what you're doing...

what are your reads/comparisons to yanmm so far?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 09 2013 03:25 GMT
#3353
On January 09 2013 12:20 Promethelax wrote:
Wait, Thrawn, you have a town read of CC from his filter? I don't understand. You found a guy who gave up early and for no reason who has clearly not cared about finding scum or about town or about anything and you read that as town? Explain.


not really, i just think the lynch is dumb. there's basically nothing in his filter to make a read off of except that his manner in this game fits with my past impression of how he can sometimes act as town... so basically a coinflip lynch that I could easily see flipping town
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 09 2013 06:10 GMT
#3397
On January 09 2013 14:40 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 11:54 Chezinu wrote:
I wonder if mysterious masons are allowed...

+ Show Spoiler +

[20:43] <@Masked_Man> ...
[20:43] <thrawn_> Hello?
[20:44] <thrawn_> Sloosh just sent me a pm saying to join this IRC
[20:44] <@Masked_Man> I know
[20:44] <thrawn_> Who are you?
[20:44] <@Masked_Man> ...
[20:45] == thrawn_ [webchat@d209-89-222-25.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Page closed]

what is this btw


no idea lol
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 09 2013 06:19 GMT
#3402
On January 09 2013 15:11 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 15:05 kushm4sta wrote:
On January 09 2013 15:02 yamato77 wrote:
On January 09 2013 15:00 kushm4sta wrote:
On January 09 2013 14:44 Djodref wrote:
On January 09 2013 14:40 kushm4sta wrote:
On January 08 2013 11:54 Chezinu wrote:
I wonder if mysterious masons are allowed...

+ Show Spoiler +

[20:43] <@Masked_Man> ...
[20:43] <thrawn_> Hello?
[20:44] <thrawn_> Sloosh just sent me a pm saying to join this IRC
[20:44] <@Masked_Man> I know
[20:44] <thrawn_> Who are you?
[20:44] <@Masked_Man> ...
[20:45] == thrawn_ [webchat@d209-89-222-25.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Page closed]

what is this btw


@ kush

Are you aware that Chezinu is dead ?
Would you lynch debears over Prome after my case against him ?

yes i'm aware. I still don't know what that is. It looks really weird.
Like I said I didn't read your case. It was too long. I dont read megacases sorry.
But I read his filter and I think it's possible his behavior can be explained by just not giving a shit. Not likely but possible.
But it is kind of similar to the CC lynch in that way.
I think prome is a surer thing.

Not giving a shit is claiming scum.

Especially for deebs.


i dont think you can make a statement like that for such a new player. I played 2 games with him as scum and he gave a shit both times. (the first time was his first game; the second time he gave a shit for the first day then stopped giving a shit, but pretended like he still gave a shit)

I read Hero Mini where he was town and the differences in his filter from that game to this one are striking.


I disagree:

On December 12 2012 09:43 thrawn2112 wrote:
You're tunneling pretty hard but being pretty carefree about other stuff


On December 12 2012 09:43 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 09:43 thrawn2112 wrote:
You're tunneling pretty hard but being pretty carefree about other stuff


That's how i roll brah


from hero. (sorry debears) I really think his ego is big enough for him to be acting this way as town
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 09 2013 06:28 GMT
#3404
On January 09 2013 15:23 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 15:19 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 09 2013 15:11 yamato77 wrote:
On January 09 2013 15:05 kushm4sta wrote:
On January 09 2013 15:02 yamato77 wrote:
On January 09 2013 15:00 kushm4sta wrote:
On January 09 2013 14:44 Djodref wrote:
On January 09 2013 14:40 kushm4sta wrote:
On January 08 2013 11:54 Chezinu wrote:
I wonder if mysterious masons are allowed...

+ Show Spoiler +

[20:43] <@Masked_Man> ...
[20:43] <thrawn_> Hello?
[20:44] <thrawn_> Sloosh just sent me a pm saying to join this IRC
[20:44] <@Masked_Man> I know
[20:44] <thrawn_> Who are you?
[20:44] <@Masked_Man> ...
[20:45] == thrawn_ [webchat@d209-89-222-25.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Page closed]

what is this btw


@ kush

Are you aware that Chezinu is dead ?
Would you lynch debears over Prome after my case against him ?

yes i'm aware. I still don't know what that is. It looks really weird.
Like I said I didn't read your case. It was too long. I dont read megacases sorry.
But I read his filter and I think it's possible his behavior can be explained by just not giving a shit. Not likely but possible.
But it is kind of similar to the CC lynch in that way.
I think prome is a surer thing.

Not giving a shit is claiming scum.

Especially for deebs.


i dont think you can make a statement like that for such a new player. I played 2 games with him as scum and he gave a shit both times. (the first time was his first game; the second time he gave a shit for the first day then stopped giving a shit, but pretended like he still gave a shit)

I read Hero Mini where he was town and the differences in his filter from that game to this one are striking.


I disagree:

On December 12 2012 09:43 thrawn2112 wrote:
You're tunneling pretty hard but being pretty carefree about other stuff


On December 12 2012 09:43 debears wrote:
On December 12 2012 09:43 thrawn2112 wrote:
You're tunneling pretty hard but being pretty carefree about other stuff


That's how i roll brah


from hero. (sorry debears) I really think his ego is big enough for him to be acting this way as town

This game reads a lot more like his SK game in YANMM where he was OMGUSing all over the place and generally being useless town. Has he been useful to you, thrawn?


debears? yes? it seems like i'm the only one who feels this way. both of us had similar thoughts about djo earlier but nobody really commented on either of our cases, which makes me wanna lynch djo and not lynch debears even more

and even if you were to match this game with his sk meta.... what does that mean? how does it make him scummy?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 09 2013 06:32 GMT
#3405
On January 09 2013 12:07 VisceraEyes wrote:I'm starting to rethink some of my scum reads...and incidentally some of my town reads. More details as they develop.


VE did anything come of this?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 09 2013 07:00 GMT
#3407
On January 09 2013 15:49 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 15:28 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 09 2013 15:23 yamato77 wrote:
On January 09 2013 15:19 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 09 2013 15:11 yamato77 wrote:
On January 09 2013 15:05 kushm4sta wrote:
On January 09 2013 15:02 yamato77 wrote:
On January 09 2013 15:00 kushm4sta wrote:
On January 09 2013 14:44 Djodref wrote:
On January 09 2013 14:40 kushm4sta wrote:
[quote]
what is this btw


@ kush

Are you aware that Chezinu is dead ?
Would you lynch debears over Prome after my case against him ?

yes i'm aware. I still don't know what that is. It looks really weird.
Like I said I didn't read your case. It was too long. I dont read megacases sorry.
But I read his filter and I think it's possible his behavior can be explained by just not giving a shit. Not likely but possible.
But it is kind of similar to the CC lynch in that way.
I think prome is a surer thing.

Not giving a shit is claiming scum.

Especially for deebs.


i dont think you can make a statement like that for such a new player. I played 2 games with him as scum and he gave a shit both times. (the first time was his first game; the second time he gave a shit for the first day then stopped giving a shit, but pretended like he still gave a shit)

I read Hero Mini where he was town and the differences in his filter from that game to this one are striking.


I disagree:

On December 12 2012 09:43 thrawn2112 wrote:
You're tunneling pretty hard but being pretty carefree about other stuff


On December 12 2012 09:43 debears wrote:
On December 12 2012 09:43 thrawn2112 wrote:
You're tunneling pretty hard but being pretty carefree about other stuff


That's how i roll brah


from hero. (sorry debears) I really think his ego is big enough for him to be acting this way as town

This game reads a lot more like his SK game in YANMM where he was OMGUSing all over the place and generally being useless town. Has he been useful to you, thrawn?


debears? yes? it seems like i'm the only one who feels this way. both of us had similar thoughts about djo earlier but nobody really commented on either of our cases, which makes me wanna lynch djo and not lynch debears even more

and even if you were to match this game with his sk meta.... what does that mean? how does it make him scummy?

Debears really hasn't seemed all that useful to me IMO. His one case that wasn't OMGUS was on Tunkeg, and while it was true of Tunkeg's play, he didn't show the mafia motivation and Tunkeg did not read scum to me.

He did a lot of pointless posting and then he OMGUS both Vivax and Lazer for their suspicion of him. Since then he's done basically nothing after I pointed this out.

I'm not sure I see the town in that filter at all.


meh... "hasn't seemed all that useful" compared to who in this game?

yamato what are your thoughts about lynching djo/prom today? assuming you cant lynch debears.

and where do you stand on both foolish and cc? would you lynch them and if you had to pick one which would it be?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 09 2013 07:08 GMT
#3408
lynch djo.

if not djo then prom.

if neither, foolish/cc are the only other two i'll get behind.

foolish before cc


sleep time

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"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 09 2013 07:23 GMT
#3418
@VE link
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 09 2013 07:27 GMT
#3420
he has looked more townie since i've made that case, but that's what's expected if he's scum

@clarity how is hiro "rising" on your scumlist? I can't even remember what's the last thing he's done. What's changed recently that caused him to "rise?"
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 09 2013 07:36 GMT
#3424
On January 09 2013 16:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
Would you expect someone who has done nothing to stay in the same place as far as suspicion goes, or would you expect that person to be progressively more suspicious as time goes on thrawn?

Think about that question before you answer it please.


more

are you talking about foolish or cc?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 09 2013 07:46 GMT
#3427
On January 09 2013 16:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 16:36 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 09 2013 16:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
Would you expect someone who has done nothing to stay in the same place as far as suspicion goes, or would you expect that person to be progressively more suspicious as time goes on thrawn?

Think about that question before you answer it please.


more

are you talking about foolish or cc?


It was in response to your question to Clarity about HiroPro.

You said that you couldn't remember the last thing Hiro did. Why is that not suspicious to you?




it is, but the problem with clarity's post is that he was basically just calling out lurkers... the phrasing of "hiro is rising on my scumlist" seems a weird way to talk about it considering that the people at the top of his scumlist are even bigger lurkers than hiro
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
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