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On January 06 2013 04:11 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 04:09 debears wrote:
Iamp
Trolling =/= not forming reads. You are being silly.
Also, I would say I have had an easy time interpreting what Chez is saying
CC, based on d1, is a good candidate
Foolish - idk. Does he normally go lurky useless as scum? Part of being town is establish that you are town so you push your read you know this debars and you did not do that. You ahve no platform from which to push your read currently but it is encouraging that you didn't straight up omgus like last time but i encourage you to improve and improve quickly if you are town.
I'm not going to get into an argument at this point. I did push my main target: Tunkeg. My case got shot down by multiple people. Reconsider that
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Hey guys I want to point something out about Iamp that I'm not liking right now
1) He claimed mason
2) The scum know that day vigs are unblockable
3) the scum for some reason felt the need to nk iamp, even though he's a mason who already used his power with palmar. All scum would have to do is wait til right after the nightpost to shoot him with an unblockable day vig instead of risking being blocked
4) We had 2 cops flip d1, including a role cop. the mafia were at a much lesser risk of being caught with their dayvigs with those flips
5) They didn't nk anyone else, yet had day vigs for 2 others.
I'd say if Iamp makes it to lylo, you guys had better lynch the sucker. The mafia's choice to nk instead of dayvig would make no sense if true.
However, I don't want to lynch Iamp because of the case that he could possibly be the mason and use his shot sometime
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Hey Iamp what exactly do you mean by one shot mason real quick
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Like, you have one bullet or you can only mason once?
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On January 07 2013 04:46 iamperfection wrote:
say debars if you actually think im mafia we are going to take away your newbie coaching privileges because your absolutely terrible if you think that.
Save your insults they aren't needed in this thread
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On January 07 2013 04:55 supersoft wrote:
scum obviously aims for almost confirmed townies like keirathi and wbg.
during the night you were the only one who fits in that pattern. Shoot confirmed townies... not the worst strategy...
The problem is they would shoot the obvious save when they can nk iamp 2 minutes later without being blocked
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On January 07 2013 04:59 supersoft wrote:
i don't know? maybe we're unlucky and you took a vigshot and they have one dayvig left?
That's dumb. That is so dumb. Iamp has looked town, he was an early mason claim with palmar if you actually read back and see how they rode each other. No way a town vig would shoot that
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EBWOP
especially over all the lurkers
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Hey Iamp. What do you think of Djodref?
I have noticed a few things that are alarming
1) His indifference to taking the helm in this game. His activity is much greater in his town games.
2) His weak reasoning for voting BC. He hides it among all the other stuff in this post, and says that the quoted post "serves mafia interest" without explaining
On January 05 2013 06:31 Djodref wrote:I don't think marv is a good lynch for today. Him pushing Palmar was legit, from a town point of view, because Palmar started to look town quite late. Also I think it's not fair to judge him in comparison with his performance in Rockband Mini Mafia. Also I don't disagree with much he has been saying and him being suspicious of Clarity at some point is not alignment indicative, because Clarity is not playing his usual town game (even if I'm buying his excuse as being sick for the moment). I don't think the chances for him to be mafia are high enough to justify a lynch on him, and it would be a shame to mislynch him if he is town. So I'm going to support the counter-bandwagon, and on top of that I think that BC lynch is a good lynch in itself  + Show Spoiler +On January 05 2013 02:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
I dont have a ton of time right now and given that most of it was spent catching up on the thread all I can say is what the fuck?
Palmar is off the hook given how rampant his bullshit was all day because he posted some logs and a list of reads that all looks seems hastily put together and shit. He then makes his only case of the game against a player his own notes say specifically he would like to hold off on pursuing then suddenly his outlook changes while marv does the same shit palmar has been doing except Marv was more useful through the entire day.
People need to realize that Palmar only contributed because he was harassed into doing so and has done the bare minimum since. Seriously people Marv may not have scum hunted but he was actively harassing people or pushing people to generate discussion.
##vote palmar
I honestly dont get you people and the next person to suggest lynching me on inactivity should go back and read the first thing I said in this game after signing up I really don't like this post from BC, as in 'I don't like this post because it serves mafia interest'. First of all, Palmar is not going to get lynched today. Moreover, Palmar stopped trolling and was actually working on this game while masoning with Iamp. Also him pushing his marv's lynch like this makes him town in my eyes, and I think that BC should be able to see this as well. Secondly, regardless of marv alignment, I see scum motivation for this post. Defending marv and discrediting Palmar if marv is scum is good, but doing it when both of them are town is even better, because you are setting things up for lynching Palmar after marv. His post also allows him to avoid contributing by spending time in a useless tunnel. ##Vote BC
3) He never pushes BC after that
4) He brings up others, yet no real reasoning
On January 05 2013 23:37 Djodref wrote:I could lynch among Hopeless, Sentinel and MZ tomorrow. I have yet to see them do proper scumhunting. I don't think they are all scum though. I'll see how they react to the pressure. What I really like in Clarity's case against Sentinel is how Sentinel is promising to read the thread, without delivering. Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 00:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
As hard as I try, I have no idea what the hell we're talking about anymore.
Ima go read Adam's filter because for some reason he has been flying under my radar. Then I will have to go back to class because astronomy is my only free period For example, this was totally unnecessary. And reading Adam's filter takes like less than 5 minutes, so he could have given us his insight instead of saying this. One other thing I didn't like is this post Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 20:35 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Agreed. I'm sitting the night out. I don't think Sentinel should feel any fear of being killed tonight. It's again another indirect way to hint that he is town, when he doesn't really need to.
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actually rereading point 2 I have discoverd I can't read
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On January 07 2013 05:23 iamperfection wrote:
@debars
he is a possiblity and you have good point about his activity considering he wanted to break the record he helped to make.
His voting of BC was pure sheeping of marv and ve who pointed out that post by bc was extremly scummy considering the general feeling of the thread and it seemed purely disconnected at the time.
i would want to see more from him but at least his filter isnt pure setup speculation like it was when he was scum last time i remember.
Yeah, but it is filled with worthless stuff, such as this:
On January 05 2013 06:38 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 06:31 marvellosity wrote:On January 05 2013 06:31 Djodref wrote:I don't think marv is a good lynch for today. Him pushing Palmar was legit, from a town point of view, because Palmar started to look town quite late. Also I think it's not fair to judge him in comparison with his performance in Rockband Mini Mafia. Also I don't disagree with much he has been saying and him being suspicious of Clarity at some point is not alignment indicative, because Clarity is not playing his usual town game (even if I'm buying his excuse as being sick for the moment). I don't think the chances for him to be mafia are high enough to justify a lynch on him, and it would be a shame to mislynch him if he is town. So I'm going to support the counter-bandwagon, and on top of that I think that BC lynch is a good lynch in itself + Show Spoiler +On January 05 2013 02:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
I dont have a ton of time right now and given that most of it was spent catching up on the thread all I can say is what the fuck?
Palmar is off the hook given how rampant his bullshit was all day because he posted some logs and a list of reads that all looks seems hastily put together and shit. He then makes his only case of the game against a player his own notes say specifically he would like to hold off on pursuing then suddenly his outlook changes while marv does the same shit palmar has been doing except Marv was more useful through the entire day.
People need to realize that Palmar only contributed because he was harassed into doing so and has done the bare minimum since. Seriously people Marv may not have scum hunted but he was actively harassing people or pushing people to generate discussion.
##vote palmar
I honestly dont get you people and the next person to suggest lynching me on inactivity should go back and read the first thing I said in this game after signing up I really don't like this post from BC, as in 'I don't like this post because it serves mafia interest'. First of all, Palmar is not going to get lynched today. Moreover, Palmar stopped trolling and was actually working on this game while masoning with Iamp. Also him pushing his marv's lynch like this makes him town in my eyes, and I think that BC should be able to see this as well. Secondly, regardless of marv alignment, I see scum motivation for this post. Defending marv and discrediting Palmar if marv is scum is good, but doing it when both of them are town is even better, because you are setting things up for lynching Palmar after marv. His post also allows him to avoid contributing by spending time in a useless tunnel. ##Vote BC where have you been? Working and sleeping mostly. Also I had to get back to my korean life ^^ Things at my job went crazy when I was in holidays in France, and Koreans don't take work lightly. Christmas and New Year are not real holidays over there so I had to get back all thing I was late on when I was not here while being jet-lagged. I went directly to sleep when I came back from work last night. I have my week-end right now though  Do you have any breadcrumb by the way ?
On January 05 2013 09:54 Djodref wrote:
@ Kei
What do you make out of kush this game ? Especially from a meta point of view...
I found this one extremely odd since he had gone through such lengths to declare kush as town based on meta all d1. Why does he need keir's input if he is an expert on it?
On January 05 2013 23:02 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 22:46 thrawn2112 wrote:On January 05 2013 22:44 Djodref wrote:On January 05 2013 22:40 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 05 2013 22:38 Djodref wrote:On January 05 2013 22:34 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 05 2013 22:33 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 05 2013 22:31 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 05 2013 22:27 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 05 2013 22:22 Lazermonkey wrote:
[quote]I don't see how my reasoning is bad. Like I said myself it is possible for Marv to be bussing but he doesn't have to. And I think it's more likely tahn not that he is not. Your argument is terribad. Just because Marv bussed one in one game doesn't make it MORE likely that he is bussing than not bussing.
You keep saying you "think" things without explaining why. Why do you think it's so unlikely for a scum marv to be bussing a teammate who he knows won't be lynched today, Everytime you have an answer and the answer includes "I think", try asking "why do I think that" and if that answer includes "I think" do it again. repeat this process until you reach facts or an opinion that makes bloody sense. Clarity wtf is wrong with you? So how do you KNOW that Marv is bussing? HOW DO YOU EVEN FUCKCCKCCKCKCKCKC You say it's unlikely for both to be scum, I ask you why it's unlikely for a scum marv to bus a scum MZ. It's called a hypothetical, this isn't hard In my personal experience, and I am sure you also feel this way, scum is more inclined to push townies than scum. This is not true. I don't think it's true for marv because he has to deliver, regardless of his alignment, and it's definitively not true for kush. I also like to bus by the way If this is true than I will reconsider. But the question is: is it true? I have to look it up for marv. I've heard somewhere sometime that he had been bussing almost his whole scumteam in one game. But it's definitively true for kush, and it's also true for me. That's why I really don't think kush is scum in this game by the ay. how does this make sense? you don't think kush is scum because he's not bussing this game? how would you know if he's bussing o.0 Because he would post better cases. Because he would know what to look for. As scum, he would also defend townies. Because this guy loves being right above all. That's the real meta read on scum kush.
see?
and then posts like this
On January 05 2013 22:41 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 22:39 Clarity_nl wrote:
Marv you shouldn't ragequit replacement. As scum it would be distasteful to even mention that and I think you know that, and as town it's just not cool and also puts an unfair "mod-confirmed townie" in the game. @ ClarityHow a replacement would be "mod-confirmed townie" if marv is town ?
This really doesn't look like town Djo to me
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On January 07 2013 05:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
oi supersoft I'm gonna mason you during the night cycle so we can just talk things out on IRC.
The person I'm currently masoned to is proving less than useful (maybe afk) I really wish they would get on IRC with me because I'm starting to become really suspicious due to their complete lack of communication or presence in the thread.
In the meantime I'll vote Jackal. Everything else is waiting for the person to get back to me.
It'd be foolish to lynch me today.
We have 30 ppl in this game. I'd say 6-8 blues is a good number for expected amount of blues
With your claim: 7 total
Our current list of power roles:
Slow Alignment Cop
Slow Cop
One-time Alignment Cop
Vengeful Vigilante
Role Cop x1
*one time mason* (iamp)
*full game mason* (MZ)
That's 7. We are tredding on dangerous territory with this number of claims
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Makes sense Djo
MZ LOGS NOW
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On January 07 2013 05:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
actually read what I wrote debears, and no I'm not posting logs.
You can post logs from early d1 dude. Are you kidding me?
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And considering you aren't gettin lynched over Jackal today, this would be a dumb as shit move by you MZ if you are a full game mason
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On January 07 2013 05:38 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2013 05:34 debears wrote:On January 07 2013 05:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
oi supersoft I'm gonna mason you during the night cycle so we can just talk things out on IRC.
The person I'm currently masoned to is proving less than useful (maybe afk) I really wish they would get on IRC with me because I'm starting to become really suspicious due to their complete lack of communication or presence in the thread.
In the meantime I'll vote Jackal. Everything else is waiting for the person to get back to me.
It'd be foolish to lynch me today. We have 30 ppl in this game. I'd say 6-8 blues is a good number for expected amount of blues With your claim: 7 total Our current list of power roles: Slow Alignment Cop Slow Cop One-time Alignment Cop Vengeful Vigilante Role Cop x1 *one time mason* (iamp) *full game mason* (MZ) That's 7. We are tredding on dangerous territory with this number of claims im no setup expert but if the mafia have the ability to execute all their nks during the day perhaps we have more blues than we would normally have.
It's possible Iamp, but the ones we have are quite powerful so far
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On January 07 2013 05:40 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2013 05:38 debears wrote:
And considering you aren't gettin lynched over Jackal today, this would be a dumb as shit move by you MZ if you are a full game mason Also you are forgetting the medic that should have saved iamp ^^
Ah yes. And Iamp was rbed correct?
So that'd be 8/9 including jk or medic and RB
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On January 07 2013 05:43 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2013 05:42 debears wrote:On January 07 2013 05:40 Djodref wrote:On January 07 2013 05:38 debears wrote:
And considering you aren't gettin lynched over Jackal today, this would be a dumb as shit move by you MZ if you are a full game mason Also you are forgetting the medic that should have saved iamp ^^ Ah yes. And Iamp was rbed correct? So that'd be 8/9 including jk or medic and RB i was not roleblocked
kk.
So 8 then
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On January 07 2013 08:51 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2013 08:11 thrawn2112 wrote:On January 07 2013 08:09 Djodref wrote:On January 07 2013 07:45 thrawn2112 wrote:
debears you still on? have anything to say about my djo case?
specifically the scumslip part It's not a scumslip. I've already addressed it. Do you have any problems with how I've addressed it ? On January 07 2013 07:19 thrawn2112 wrote:On January 07 2013 06:52 Djodref wrote:
@ thrawn
Regarding my 'scumslip', I know that kush isn't bussing because he changed his mind about Cheesecake at some point (or some other player, I don't remember exactly). Also he didn't give any reason for why marv was scum, even a small quote or anything like that. Even if at the time we didn't know marv's alignment, I know that kush uses his extra-knowledge as scum. He wouldn't drop a read because he would be right about CC from the beginning. He would give a small indication why marv would have been scum as well. Just like in WitchCraft when he was nit-picking my post to show the juicy part to you.
but cc hasn;t flipped yet, you are saying cc is town? say some more stuff about kush changing his mind on whatever player you're talking about First of all, I'm not saying thet CC is town or scum here. If kush knew CC's alignment, kush wouldn't have backed up. My point is that scum kush knows everybody alignment, and plays in consequence. At that time, if he knew that CC was town or scum, he would have defended him from the beginning or bus him from the beginning and wouldn't have changed his mind.
You are basing a freaking meta town read on his reaction to one person?
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