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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 07 2013 16:41 GMT
#2906
I should explain that more.

Immediately jumping on someone and calling them scum when they say something is scummy in general.
Immediately jumping on someone to explain something because you have an idea, and then backing off when your idea doesn't fit, is townie in general.

Debears did the latter.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 07 2013 16:59 GMT
#2908
#5 would be a good scum point but the quotes provided aren't giving me a scumfind boner.
He wanted a votethread, this post was super early
He pointed out there have been lots of blue(claims), this is a point worth mentioning since it was in reply to mz claiming mason, which adds another blue if it were true.
The third is answering my question so dunno why that would be useless.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 07 2013 17:37 GMT
#2927
On January 08 2013 02:32 kushm4sta wrote:
yeah cheesecake is hella town I know this from 2 games experience.
He IS bad town when he's town.

The cheesecake wagon is scummy. Conf town iamp's misread gave scum a great bandwagon to jump on.
@clarity why are you defending debears so hard?
also why is clarity a strong town read?? just because of his activity or what?


Cause I believe he's town
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 07 2013 18:12 GMT
#2932
On January 08 2013 03:04 debears wrote:
Guys me and palmar are a scumteam


Stop trying to be clever and be awesome instead
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 07 2013 19:17 GMT
#2950
+1, fuck off
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 07 2013 19:27 GMT
#2952
I refuse to believe cheese, I am lynching him next cycle. If he were town he would've asked for a replacement by now.
If this is not the case then I don't give a fuck and will lynch cheese for the satisfaction
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 07 2013 20:00 GMT
#2955
On January 08 2013 04:57 kushm4sta wrote:
it's scummy to have less time to put into the game? that is the case against cheesecake


It's scummy to explain how you haven't cared at all and you will continue to not care, and not asking for a replacement frikkin days ago. It's a dirty last-ditch effort that shouldn't even be allowed.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 07 2013 20:06 GMT
#2957
On January 08 2013 05:01 Promethelax wrote:
Oh and Clarity, I desperately want to call you scum for saying we should lynch CC whether he is town or scum but I feel the same way. His play is inexcusable no matter his alignment though it points towards scum and that means he has to swing since we can't just give him a free ride by being an ass.


I refuse to let play like this be allowed.

The fact that you just buddied up to me is concerning though but only if he flips town.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 07 2013 20:12 GMT
#2959
Ugh I dunno your post reeks of buddying which seems out of place. I hate cheese you hate cheese, doesn't mean we have to hate cheese together. Don't worry though there's no way he's flipping town.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 07 2013 20:14 GMT
#2960
If we had a vig I would appreciate him to just shoot cheese tonight though.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 07 2013 20:18 GMT
#2963
Yeah but since I want to lynch cheese and he's not controversial I just want him shot to not waste two days.
Rather go after palmar and see what happens.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 07 2013 20:19 GMT
#2964
On January 08 2013 05:18 Lazermonkey wrote:
Vivax is sooo town in my book now.

The case itself seems good and I am willing to sheep it tomrrow foh sho. Also, I have a hard time to see scum backing off and admitting that one of the points in the case was flawed the way Vivax did here.
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 01:02 Vivax wrote:
On January 08 2013 00:57 iamperfection wrote:
Why do you think point 3 is scummy?


Thinking about it, you're right, it's actually more in the WIFOM category since we can't tell if intended or not, but I see it as belonging to the category of posts he's been making about votes, setup, policy. Fluff, that'd be, it fits so well in there it caught my attention.



Yeah vivax is town by why the hell is everyone drooling over this case so hard I don't see it. It is a collection of quotes and summaries. You get the same by reading his filter.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 07 2013 20:30 GMT
#2969
Hiro how outdated are these reads?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 07 2013 20:31 GMT
#2970
Seriously there are basically no reads in there. Everyone is null
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 07 2013 20:37 GMT
#2974
On January 08 2013 05:33 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 05:27 HiroPro wrote:
i'll be gone for ~48 hours, so i'll post my spreadsheet. if you want to ask me something, do it now.

http://i.imgur.com/OLzsd.png
http://i.imgur.com/zbLVB.png


Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 22:52 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 06 2013 03:47 debears wrote:
Guys, with the thread as shitty as it is right now, I would like to propose a plan:

Everyone, shut up, and do voting analysis with the info on the marv and BC flips. Let's make night all about voting analysis, and get on track


BloodyC0bbler (13)
marvellosity
Clarity_nl
Hopeless1der
HiroPro
froggynoddy
[UoN]Sentinel
iamperfection
thrawn2112
VisceraEyes
Djodref
Promethelax
Keirathi
Lazermonkey

Marvellosity (12)
Palmar
supersoft
kushm4sta
Toadesstern
debears
Mr. Cheesecake
tube
Meapak_Ziphh
Chezinu
yamato77
Foolishness
grush57

hopeless1der (1)
wherebugsgo



Palmar (1)
BloodyC0bbler

tube(1)
Vivax

wherebugsgo (1)
Jackal58

Haven't yet voted (1)
Eywa-


Day ends in 15 minutes.



What do we know about the day 1 lynch candidates? They were both town.

It is way more likely scum didn't give a fuck where their votes were. We need to look for people who didn't really give a shit where their votes were, especially concerning BC and marv
This is fishy...
On January 05 2013 02:31 debears wrote:
##votr marv

Follow palmar the wise
On January 06 2013 03:16 debears wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:06 marvellosity wrote:
this game has led to a certain unavoidable snippiness level, by dint of sheer stupidity and bigheadedness (Palmar) and sheeping of said stupidity and bigheadedness (lots of town)


Marv how do you know it's town sheeping palmar and not scum>?
These are the ONLY two posts discussing the Marv-BC voting. Look through debears filter. To me, he seems to be one of the most uninterested players when it came down to the lynch. Playing the good 'ol I-pointed-out-the-flaws-in-my-own-gameplay-and-thus-cannot-be-scum card?

Debears just rose on my scum-o-meter.


Look at Hiro's read on me. Look at Laser's post

Does anyone find that they have exactly the same read troubling in terms of the BC-marv thing? Especially when Hiro nor Lazer posted anything about this til very recently?


All his reads are basically thread movements.

jackal scum, mz scum, hopeless scum, toad maybe scum

Everyone who is null has not had much commentary on them.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 07 2013 20:44 GMT
#2983
Honestly hiro's reads just smells like he looked at what townies had to say and put it in this excel spreadsheet so he could afk for two days.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 07 2013 21:20 GMT
#3000
That is the most unreadable mess I've ever seen.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 07 2013 21:27 GMT
#3005
On January 08 2013 06:24 Djodref wrote:
@ Clarity

What do you think of Hiro after my case and his list of reads plus him heading out for 48 hours ?


The leaving is null, as it should be, and leaving reads before leaving is not alignment indicative either.
As I said though, all his reads are basically things I've read in the thread already with few exceptions, and the exceptions are all on null reads. He could very well be scum, but I don't think lynching him tomorrow is the way to go, because he won't be able to defend himself against anything.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 08 2013 08:29 GMT
#3116
awake, still no logs. Cheese aint trying, we had to vigi tube for not trying, foolishness has no reads worth mentioning, hopeless AWOL all game, VE had his little theater play although I guess that's cured, mz scummy all game and then he half-claims mason (although I guess he is "confirmed" mason now, dno what alignment. I have a hard time seeing scum using mason tho.)

I'm having a real hard time wanting to figure out who is scum in this mess. I just can't tell the goddamn difference between lazy town and scum.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 08 2013 10:26 GMT
#3122
Why is he obviously not getting shot tonight?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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