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On October 17 2012 22:32 Djodref wrote: Did anybody read my defense of daoud ? I feel I have been totally rape-ninjaed by mementoss... @mementoss Do you find my defense too much WIFOM ? Sandroba was killed because of his vet status ET was killed both because of his very townie status and vet status Scum kills are mostly to people with town cred or vet status (really good scum hunting) I don't see what this has to do with da0ds alignment. If they killed Sandroba and ET for a specific reason it would be more likely to protect da0d from tunneling vets, than to incriminate him, an easy mislynch if he was town because hes easy to make a case on anyways they didn't need any extra leverage. This is too WIFOM, you can't know or prove either way unless your mafia. @Thrawn: Im interested in the reasoning behind your changes in the top 3, could you explain them for me. On October 17 2012 13:39 thrawn2112 wrote: 1 austin 2 hiro 3 da0ud 4 hopeless1der 5 mementoss 6 Djodref 7 kushm4sta 8 thrawn2112 On October 17 2012 16:01 thrawn2112 wrote: 1 da0ud 2 austin 3 hiro 4 hopeless1der 5 mementoss 6 Djodref 7 kushm4sta 8 thrawn2112 | ||
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1 da0ud 2 austin 3 hiro 4. kushm4sta 5 djodref 6 Thrawn2112 7 Hopeless1der 8 mementoss | ||
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austin case on mmt >>>> mmt case on austin we need lists from austin, kush, hiro,da0d asap. | ||
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On October 18 2012 01:29 kushm4sta wrote: I put my list up already It does pretty much 1 thrawn 2 djo 3 austin 4 dao 5 1der 6 hiro 7 memetoss somtehing liek that how in the fuck can you have a town read that good on hiro | ||
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On October 18 2012 02:03 kushm4sta wrote: he had a really town d1 then his activity died down a lot. low activity isn't a scumtell though. sadly your right, but you made me do all the searching myself o-o. day 1 hiro looking town: + Show Spoiler + On October 12 2012 05:19 HiroPro wrote: The contradiction is that you accused daoud of this " He is not approaching the bracket as an opportunity to catch scum", when in fact you yourself were using the bracket to pick players who you thought were worse to advance, not those who you thought were scum. I'd still like a response to this please. austin was someone you considered good and he directly refuted one of your points so I'm wondering why you didn't try to convince him otherwise, if you didn't accept his view: I'm voting for Djodref over ET. Partly because I'm getting a town read on ET (the thoughts that he's sharing seem good and I liked the way he reacted to Mementoss's accusation). But also because of the way that he's posting: his posts seem manufactured to me. Especially the one above where he seems to be calling predictions for each matchup needlessly - it's not something that I see a townie really being interested in, but it is something that I think a new mafia player would consider a "contribution" and include just for the sake of making a bigger post. Djodref x1 On October 13 2012 04:26 HiroPro wrote: We're not lynching hopeless. His plan looks silly but it looks like a townie plan - bring attention onto yourself needlessly (not something scum would do) and try to make some attempt at advancing discussion. Djodref's case on Hopeless honestly isn't very good. Except for the part about not scumhunting, he doesn't explain why any of those things are more likely to be done by scum and the whole thing about the kush/prplhz voting honestly looks like a complete misread. Not sure if town djodref would make a case like this, I'll need to read through his earlier game. OriginalName x2 On October 13 2012 04:59 HiroPro wrote: Because lynching sandroba on d1 is dumb. And he's done nothing to make me think he's scum. On October 13 2012 05:01 HiroPro wrote: Nothing. But I think hopeless is probably town. And ON is basically useless. On October 14 2012 09:52 HiroPro wrote: im here. We should lynch ON. I can see sandroba getting frustrated like that as town and I honestly don't think the other stuff that people are bringing up is all that great. From what I've seen sandroba is a pretty temperamental guy and not someone prone to explaining stuff when he doesn't feel like it. And when you have someone who is not posting at all it's better to kill them over someone who can absolutely be useful if they're town. OriginalName x5 | ||
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On October 18 2012 02:27 austinmcc wrote: Alright. I have seen reasons from kush, hopeless1der, and djodref as to why mementoss is town. You guys are all wrong. I'll get to that. Here are a couple introductory points: (1) Sandroba said nothing about mementoss beyond this point. In response to me asking what his top two scum reads were if prplhz was town, ET wrote: ET said nothing about mementoss after this point. Moreover, the main reason he appears unsure of mementoss is that prplhz/mmt mafia team wouldn't be defending each other so hard. prplhz flipped town, that reason is out the window. So, point 1 is that both NKs have stated that they believed mementoss to be scummy, under the flips we've had (ET had him scummy if prplhz flipped town, which happened). They shared that read. Moreover, this partially explains why I'm not dead, if you think I should have died last night. I have come out with strong suspicions of mementoss. Both of them mentioned him as scummy, but sandroba didn't go into detail and ET didn't really update that read after prplhz flipped. They are great players to take out if mementoss is scum, because when you look over their filters, you don't get a clear "This NKed person found mementoss scummy" train of thought. If I die, the strongest read I've had is mementoss, and so he's much more in the spotlight. (2) mementoss is a solid player from what I've seen. He played quite well in Aperture, we needed to take him out N1 as scum. In this game, IF mementoss were town, I would expect scum to go "Sandroba scummy on mementoss" and "ET scummy on mementoss" and "Austin and da0ud wrote cases on mementoss" and try to push mementoss. If mementoss were town, someone would be sheeping me, because getting a lynch on a strong townie as scum is great, it saves you a NK. Instead, we're arguing over whether to lynch da0ud? me? Again, IF mementoss were town this game, there's a real nice avenue for scum to push for his lynch. They haven't done so. ET and Sandroba both NKed, ET and Sandroba both scummy on this guy, yet scum isn't using that to push a mislynch. mementoss slightly less likely to be town based on that. This concludes the NK/dead folks' reads portion of crap I'm going to say right now. I kinda feel honoured that you planned out your night kills so much to try and further incriminate me/strengthen your own case so you could lynch me. "In this game, IF mementoss were town, I would expect scum to go "Sandroba scummy on mementoss" and "ET scummy on mementoss" and "Austin and da0ud wrote cases on mementoss" and try to push mementoss" How ironic of you to state your own plan IE (what you are currently doing) in the post that was supposed to make me look scummy. | ||
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Ausin, do you realize that in in 3 days you have made 3 separate cases on me? Some of the points say that I don't scum hunt. yet you yourself are not scum hunting, you are putting 3 cases on me, you never hunted for scum outside my filter. You know what takes away from scum hunting? Defending yourself every active day. I guess when I get home I will not be getting into analysis I will be taking all day reading your wall of text and the rest of the day trying to actually reply to it. Austin do everyone a favour and make a case on someone else. Unless your tunnelling me so hard, that you actually think I am both (assuming 2 left) remaining scum members? How is what your doing town? also I can see a huge bold point at the bottom that I can answer right now. Getting people off of what I think is a mislynch/ creating discussion, is a pretty good asset to town imo. austin da0d? | ||
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Would scumaustin put himself completely out there all game knowing I was town, what would he do after I flipped? All this just to get me mislynched? Austin please put up some analysis about your 2nd scum read, so I can have some substance to have a slightly unbiased day 3 look at you. | ||
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On October 18 2012 03:17 thrawn2112 wrote: i don't think an austin/da0 scum team is possible why, austin has been defending da0 constantly, and da0 has had austin as a scum read, but it was always 3rd or 4th on his list, never a contender to be lynched in da0s regards, common thing to do with scum mates. | ||
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No one has any idea of your opinions basically other than me being scum | ||
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On October 18 2012 04:04 austinmcc wrote: That is untrue. I have opinions on da0ud and hopeless1der at least that are clear, I think i've been clear with my thoughts on HiroPro as well. I will do some listing, but ... the list is stupid. We need to lynch 1 scum. We win the game when we lynch scum, and we get NOTHING for putting everyone in order of towniest to scummiest. Look at what listing did earlier today, people are changing their lists, getting called out for changing lists, blah blah blah. The lists and how they change are easy pickings for the thread to get full of crap. Thrawn, I need to finish something up quick for work and then I'll post on djodref. No we need to lynch 2 scum | ||
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On October 18 2012 03:59 thrawn2112 wrote: But what still doesn't make sense about is that I can't justify to myself ever being willing to share any of my votes... but there was a TON of hesitation about sandroba vs ON so I can see you taking that risk with your votes. Austin I decided to work out what my new list would be, in a hypothetical scenario where I decide you're town. It comes out looking like this: 1 mementoss 2 Djodref 3 hiro 4 da0ud 5 austin 6 kushm4sta 7 hopeless1der 8 thrawn That would be my new list of most scum to most town. Mementoss gets the first place because your case against him is very convincing. I'll have to go through his filter again myself but every time you've made a memtoss case I've found it convincing. Of course that list would have to be adjusted based on what everyone else is doing, because we are in fact listing our top choices for lynch instead of our top scumreads. But anyways what do you think about djodref? I think that if you're town, then the remaining scum are probably within mem, djo, hiro. Da0 is a guy like kush said, I don't have strong convictions about. My gut read tells me that his scumhunting has extremely newbie townie traits but on the other hand I don't want to ignore the reads of ET and sand. This post rubs me the complete wrong way by the way. Its basically saying if austin is town I think mementoss is scum. Which doesn't make any fucking sense. It's like thrawn is trying to buddy up and being on both sides of arguably 2 louder people in the game. | ||
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On October 18 2012 04:34 thrawn2112 wrote: how does it not make sense? if one of the people who i've been mostly suspicious of (austin) is making a case against you.... do you not see how that would make me change my mind about his cases if I decide he's town? if you want to call me scum go for it but please do me the courtesy of saying more than it "rubs you the wrong way" It rubs me the wrong way because being town does not make cases right, it makes it sound like you eliminating the possibility that both me and austin are town. It gives you an out to switch to me, if austin flips town or the other way around. I just don't see the point of posting that hypothetical, its based on way too much connections. Anyways I have no idea if you are scum, because I haven't been through your filter lately. Now I have to deal with this austin stuff to try to somehow figure out his alignment. | ||
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