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Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
October 09 2012 00:12 GMT
#1361
Bleh

Until someone gives me a good reason not to:

##Vote: austinmcc

I believe he is the most likely candidate for red scum.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 09 2012 00:27 GMT
#1362
Okay let's make this fast: I'm waiting for HiroPro to report whatever he needs to report (if something happened to him last night).
After that I'll claim.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 09 2012 00:45 GMT
#1363
Keirathi,

Early on you defended yourself from me by saying:
Now, lets go into some hypotheticals, since we know that iamperfection was godfather/JOAT:

If I am scum, why didn't I do more to push a new target? I mean, I was hard defending iamperfection on a meta read, so why wouldn't I have at least attempted to push someone else who had a few votes? Unless you think me, iamperfection, and drazerk are a scumteam and there was no hope of lynching anyone else. But wait, what about JH earlier (whom you said you have a 100% town read on)? He got up to 2 votes at one point, when iamp only had 3.

So basically you think I am a terrible scum who has no regard for his teamate, nor a desire to bus him.
In part, you're suspicious of me I guess for not pushing you HARDER D1? But when I was on your case earlier in the game, not doing much to push a new target was part of your defense.

Why does not pushing a non-iamperfection target hard make you town, but not pushing a non-iamperfection target hard make me scum?
Fe fi fo fum.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 09 2012 00:49 GMT
#1364
austin please respond to the Drazerk stuff from late-N3.

Specially that contradiction you made about how everybody was "oh lol Draz is CAUGHT SCUM!" when S&B claimed he wasn't medic saved/whatever, yet you were completely the opposite of that (in fact everybody was the complete opposite of that, I took it that all of us were trying to make sense of the situation and see if it was possible Draz was telling the truth taking into account bus drivers and medic saves and shit).
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 09 2012 01:01 GMT
#1365
On October 09 2012 09:49 gonzaw wrote:
austin please respond to the Drazerk stuff from late-N3.

Specially that contradiction you made about how everybody was "oh lol Draz is CAUGHT SCUM!" when S&B claimed he wasn't medic saved/whatever, yet you were completely the opposite of that (in fact everybody was the complete opposite of that, I took it that all of us were trying to make sense of the situation and see if it was possible Draz was telling the truth taking into account bus drivers and medic saves and shit).
Apparently I'm an idiot. For two games in a row now, did something similar in Liquid City, calling someone out on something they didn't post.

I thought Keirathi revoted earlier, and that I and others had typed out some stronger reactions. Was so focused on YOUR post right after he claimed, how you just asked snb a question. Turns out, NONE OF US reacted strongly at that point.


HEY EVERYBODY. DISREGARD ME TALKING ABOUT GONZAW REACTING WRONG TO SNB'S CLAIM OF TAKING A HIT.
Fe fi fo fum.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
October 09 2012 01:02 GMT
#1366
On October 09 2012 09:45 austinmcc wrote:
Keirathi,

Early on you defended yourself from me by saying:
Show nested quote +
Now, lets go into some hypotheticals, since we know that iamperfection was godfather/JOAT:

If I am scum, why didn't I do more to push a new target? I mean, I was hard defending iamperfection on a meta read, so why wouldn't I have at least attempted to push someone else who had a few votes? Unless you think me, iamperfection, and drazerk are a scumteam and there was no hope of lynching anyone else. But wait, what about JH earlier (whom you said you have a 100% town read on)? He got up to 2 votes at one point, when iamp only had 3.

So basically you think I am a terrible scum who has no regard for his teamate, nor a desire to bus him.
In part, you're suspicious of me I guess for not pushing you HARDER D1? But when I was on your case earlier in the game, not doing much to push a new target was part of your defense.

Why does not pushing a non-iamperfection target hard make you town, but not pushing a non-iamperfection target hard make me scum?

Good question.

I think the reason I am more wary of you is because you were actively campaigning against people (me, JH, me again), but never drummed up a lot of support. That you were non-committal towards iamperfection makes it more suspicious.

You've basically, to use a poker term, "limped in" to every bandwagon in the game so far without really seeming to care who actually gets lynched. It feels like the only time you've actively tried to lead votes away from something or onto your particular read was me on day 1.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
October 09 2012 01:04 GMT
#1367
EBWOP: That said, your unvote on JH does buy you a few townie points back on first glance. I'll dig around it more and see the circumstances in a bit.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 09 2012 01:05 GMT
#1368
On October 09 2012 10:01 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2012 09:49 gonzaw wrote:
austin please respond to the Drazerk stuff from late-N3.

Specially that contradiction you made about how everybody was "oh lol Draz is CAUGHT SCUM!" when S&B claimed he wasn't medic saved/whatever, yet you were completely the opposite of that (in fact everybody was the complete opposite of that, I took it that all of us were trying to make sense of the situation and see if it was possible Draz was telling the truth taking into account bus drivers and medic saves and shit).
Apparently I'm an idiot. For two games in a row now, did something similar in Liquid City, calling someone out on something they didn't post.

I thought Keirathi revoted earlier, and that I and others had typed out some stronger reactions. Was so focused on YOUR post right after he claimed, how you just asked snb a question. Turns out, NONE OF US reacted strongly at that point.


HEY EVERYBODY. DISREGARD ME TALKING ABOUT GONZAW REACTING WRONG TO SNB'S CLAIM OF TAKING A HIT.


Okay then, disregard that:....so what does that leave you with then? You still think I'm "the one that looks redder"?

Anyways, can we assume Mat's hit was a RS one? Also I'd lol if Matt is RS, shot someone else who was busdriven with him and shot himself (and is a vet RS or something).
Still waiting on ghost/Hiro to see if they were hit/RBed, mostly Hiro.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 09 2012 01:15 GMT
#1369
On October 09 2012 10:05 gonzaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2012 10:01 austinmcc wrote:
On October 09 2012 09:49 gonzaw wrote:
austin please respond to the Drazerk stuff from late-N3.

Specially that contradiction you made about how everybody was "oh lol Draz is CAUGHT SCUM!" when S&B claimed he wasn't medic saved/whatever, yet you were completely the opposite of that (in fact everybody was the complete opposite of that, I took it that all of us were trying to make sense of the situation and see if it was possible Draz was telling the truth taking into account bus drivers and medic saves and shit).
Apparently I'm an idiot. For two games in a row now, did something similar in Liquid City, calling someone out on something they didn't post.

I thought Keirathi revoted earlier, and that I and others had typed out some stronger reactions. Was so focused on YOUR post right after he claimed, how you just asked snb a question. Turns out, NONE OF US reacted strongly at that point.


HEY EVERYBODY. DISREGARD ME TALKING ABOUT GONZAW REACTING WRONG TO SNB'S CLAIM OF TAKING A HIT.


Okay then, disregard that:....so what does that leave you with then? You still think I'm "the one that looks redder"?

Anyways, can we assume Mat's hit was a RS one? Also I'd lol if Matt is RS, shot someone else who was busdriven with him and shot himself (and is a vet RS or something).
Still waiting on ghost/Hiro to see if they were hit/RBed, mostly Hiro.

I think at this point, so long as I trust snb and keirathi to be same-faction and be town, then the pool of players is pretty small that can be red scum (again, JH totes out).

It leaves me looking at you, ghost, hiropro, mattchew for black and red. If I had to assign you guys colors, ghost looks black. HiroPro looks black because of the iamperfection vote. Before taking that shot, Mattchew could have been either. You can technically be either I guess...but you have actually done scummy stuff, whereas with Matt the reasons for him being red were just "scummatt lazy" and "scummatt busses."

After the night shot, which I assume came from RS, then that's the first piece of hard evidence that makes matt seem like he'd be black over red. Afaik, Matt has been in the (1) spot on the player list this whole time, so there was no bussing on him. Someone correct me if I'm wrong there, I deleted the spot I had yesterday's list written.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 09 2012 01:16 GMT
#1370
There's also the possibility that matt is red and red held KP last night. EZPZ way for remaining red to survive, especially if town is worried about red KP and thinks red's players are actually black scum.
Fe fi fo fum.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 09 2012 01:19 GMT
#1371
I don't get this "player list thing".
I've seen the OP and the list is always the same :/

For instance I'm 13 at the bottom, Xfire/Nisani are above me and you are the alive guy right above me, and it's been that way all game long.
If it's something that's gotta do with your role at least specify because I'm not getting this.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 09 2012 01:22 GMT
#1372
First one is D2, second is current
On October 03 2012 23:10 austinmcc wrote:
It's also worth noting that, as of now, the player list looks like this:

1.Mattchew
2.Mementoss (Doug Rattmann) was killed Night 1
3.strongandbig
4.iamperfection (GLaDOS) was lynched Day 1!
5.HiroPro
6.Drazerk
7.Keirathi
8.ghost_403
9.JingleHell
10.austinmcc
11.Nisani201
12.Crossfire99
13.gonzaw


I THINK that's what it looked like D1, but I can't quite tell. iamperfection's flip feels like it's in the right spot, but nothing else on the list stuck out enough yesterday that I remember exactly where it was.
On September 29 2012 01:56 GreYMisT wrote:
Player List

1.Mattchew
2.Mementoss (Doug Rattmann) was killed Night 1
3.strongandbig
4.iamperfection (GLaDOS) was lynched Day 1!
5.ghost_403
6.Drazerk (Cave Johnson) was lynched Day 3!
7.Keirathi
8. HiroPro
9.JingleHell
10.austinmcc
11.Nisani201 (The Weighted Companion Cube) was lynched Day 2!
12.Crossfire99(Gordon Freeman) Was killed Night 2!
13.gonzaw


Replacements.

1.BioSC
2.
3.

Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 09 2012 01:23 GMT
#1373
If nothing else, ghost and hiropro swapped places (and did so N2, because I noticed D3, but haven't seen any changes since D3)
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 09 2012 01:25 GMT
#1374
Also, Drazerk's PM specifically referenced bus driver mechanics. My role PM specifically references portals. Either there's a position swapper AND a bus driver/portaler, or it's the same thing, and it seems really unlikely for them to not be the same.
Fe fi fo fum.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 09 2012 01:37 GMT
#1375
Holy shit I didn't notice that.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 09 2012 01:38 GMT
#1376
Do you have the D1/D3 ones?
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 09 2012 01:40 GMT
#1377
No because I'm a bum. I had D3 but I deleted it accidentally. But I swear D3 looked the same as it does now. I noticed the HiroPro/ghost swap but not any others, and it's still in that condition.
Fe fi fo fum.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 09 2012 01:40 GMT
#1378
You think the "bus driver" is the guy swapping people in the player list? Which means that if Matt was JKed from the rat den...since nobody swapped his place then it means he was JKed N1 and N2 as well and didn't claim it?
(I.e last night he took a hit, and was saved by the rat den which is at position (1)....it also makes sense that Mementos would JK Mattchew on N1 since Matt was super-pro-town-motherfucker on D1).
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 09 2012 01:41 GMT
#1379
So the Hiro/ghost swap occured on N2!?

Why wasn't there a swap on N1 nor last night?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 09 2012 01:42 GMT
#1380
Omg I think I may have info on that!

See? Why the hell do people think me blue-fishing or speculating about the estup is bad/scummy? It's the only way to make any sense of this game.
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