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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On October 08 2012 04:20 gonzaw wrote: Which scum? GlaDOS was dead by N1, Crossfire wasn't medic. If S&B is scum, he's alone right now, right? Which scum medic would have saved him? If you assume that, then you assume S&B is scum with someone else in a 3-man scum team. I believe 4-4-4-1 ATM | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
How does that make any sense? It also means that if you are town, and I'm town, then nobody else is town in the freaking game. So basically you are saying that S&B and Kei belong to the same scum team, and Keirathi is scum medic that saved S&B? So that's why you want to kill them so badly, since one of them flipping red, plus your ability means the other one is confirmed scum? Even then: That means scum would have had 2 KP each night. Where are the 2 unaccounted for shots from N1 and N2? | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
Your shot doesn't go through medic protects? Then how did snb get shot and take damage if he was medic protected? | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On October 08 2012 04:23 austinmcc wrote: Wait, hold on. Your shot doesn't go through medic protects? Then how did snb get shot and take damage if he was medic protected? Welcome to my crazy world. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On October 08 2012 04:23 austinmcc wrote: Wait, hold on. Your shot doesn't go through medic protects? Then how did snb get shot and take damage if he was medic protected? S&B protects two targets every night. 3 if he actually inherently protects himself too, but i'm not actually sure about that. | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On October 08 2012 04:23 gonzaw wrote: How does that make any sense? It also means that if you are town, and I'm town, then nobody else is town in the freaking game. So basically you are saying that S&B and Kei belong to the same scum team, and Keirathi is scum medic that saved S&B? So that's why you want to kill them so badly, since one of them flipping red, plus your ability means the other one is confirmed scum? Even then: That means scum would have had 2 KP each night. Where are the 2 unaccounted for shots from N1 and N2? Hello lightning rods | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On October 08 2012 04:25 Keirathi wrote: S&B protects two targets every night. 3 if he actually inherently protects himself too, but i'm not actually sure about that. I was lumping bodyguard in with veteran abilities though, i.e. you have an extra life with which to take shots. I guess we don't know that, but if bodyguard is considered a veteran ability, then it wouldn't have saved snb. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On October 08 2012 04:26 austinmcc wrote: I was lumping bodyguard in with veteran abilities though, i.e. you have an extra life with which to take shots. I guess we don't know that, but if bodyguard is considered a veteran ability, then it wouldn't have saved snb. Are you even reading what you're typing? Drazerk is saying that he things S&B was medic protected, and thats why he didnt die. Therefor, if S&B was medic protected, then S&B still protected 2 OTHER people. If either of those 2 people got shot, then S&B would have received a hit notification. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
Hello guy that should have claimed on D1 but hasn't done that yet. If he targets all night actions then he can't possibly exist in this game (for instance: Nisani watched Mattchew. If he had watched Mementos then he would have seen everybody in the game visiting him). Yep, this doesn't make any sense, we can know that. So...is Drazerk telling the truth or is he trying to confuse us? If he's confusing us....why keep shut about his "unblockable KP" until now, instead of doing so on D2 and shit up the thread there? | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On October 08 2012 04:29 Drazerk wrote: Because I didn't want to shit up the thread and possibly out a medic? Yeah. If you are scum you would have done that though, right? SO, if you are scum, and you are trying to confuse us, why didn't you do that then instead of now? Maybe you were waiting until you were almost dead to do it...but still it's weird you'd keep shut about this fake-claim of yours for 2 cycles if you were scum. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On October 08 2012 04:28 Keirathi wrote: Are you even reading what you're typing? Drazerk is saying that he things S&B was medic protected, and thats why he didnt die. Therefor, if S&B was medic protected, then S&B still protected 2 OTHER people. If either of those 2 people got shot, then S&B would have received a hit notification. Gah, I went to find the quote but it's a little ambiguous. We need snb in here. On October 05 2012 01:16 strongandbig wrote: He doesn't say "I was hit but I was protected." He says "I took a hit." I interpreted that to mean "I actually took some damage from a shot." Maybe that's wrong. If he took damage and drazerk's KP doesn't go through medic protects, then ... one of them is lying or we've got unaccounted for KP. Right?So I know that last night I took a hit that was aimed at someone else. However, I don't know if it was aimed at the person I targeted, beacuse it could have been aimed at the person P-BODY targeted. If he just knows he got shot but not about taking damage, then yeah, he could have been protected. | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On October 08 2012 04:31 gonzaw wrote: Yeah. If you are scum you would have done that though, right? SO, if you are scum, and you are trying to confuse us, why didn't you do that then instead of now? Maybe you were waiting until you were almost dead to do it...but still it's weird you'd keep shut about this fake-claim of yours for 2 cycles if you were scum. Lets face it FAR too many AFK players for this to make any difference to the day. This is purely to help you guys into the next few days | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
...damn, I don't really know what to do here. A NL is possible to try and make sense of all of this without having to kill Draz (in case he's town), but I dunno. | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
On October 08 2012 04:28 gonzaw wrote: Hello guy that should have claimed on D1 but hasn't done that yet. If he targets all night actions then he can't possibly exist in this game (for instance: Nisani watched Mattchew. If he had watched Mementos then he would have seen everybody in the game visiting him). Yep, this doesn't make any sense, we can know that. So...is Drazerk telling the truth or is he trying to confuse us? If he's confusing us....why keep shut about his "unblockable KP" until now, instead of doing so on D2 and shit up the thread there? shitting up the thread is only useful if you actually have teammates to benefit from the chaos... it puts attention onto yourself. frankly i don't see a scenario that explains what drazerk is saying. therefore he's lying. | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On October 08 2012 04:38 HiroPro wrote: shitting up the thread is only useful if you actually have teammates to benefit from the chaos... it puts attention onto yourself. frankly i don't see a scenario that explains what drazerk is saying. therefore he's lying. You clearly have a limited view then since anything is possible in mafia and I mean ANYTHING. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On October 08 2012 04:38 HiroPro wrote: shitting up the thread is only useful if you actually have teammates to benefit from the chaos... it puts attention onto yourself. frankly i don't see a scenario that explains what drazerk is saying. therefore he's lying. He did put attention on himself, he claimed the shot on S&B and desperately wanted to get him lynched without explaining himself. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
That seems like a weird interaction. I'll try to go find some games that have a bodyguard role, but that's not the way I expect bodyguard to work. That would basically mean that the medic was protecting 3 people night 1. Let me explain how I expect bodyguard to work with a hypothetical, before I go digging: VisceraEyes is 1-shot Bodyguard that dies if he successfully protects a KP (IE something useful for protecting a Mayor or Innocent Child, etc). marv is a medic. Ace is an innocent child. VE protects Ace on night 1. marv protects VE. Scum shoots Ace. I would expect VE to die, because he died from his own role, rather than from KP. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
If I told you guys what happened to me you would say "I don't see a scenario that explains what gonzaw is saying, therefore he's lying" as well. Maybe I'm inclined to believe Draz because of that. | ||
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