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On October 06 2012 05:10 gonzaw wrote: Yeah, it's possible. However, if there was 1 KP that got to S&B. someone must have shot it. If the guy that shot it was town, he'd have claimed, therefore it's either scum or SK KP (basically anti-town KP). Drazerk claimed that KP and nobody cc'ed, so it at least proves Drazerk shot him (whether as town, scum or SK). You may be right about the targets though, maybe a town bus driver bussed S&B with a pro-town townie and scum/SK Drazerk shot S&B instead of his intended target. Yeah, we might leave that out until we have more claims or knowledge of night actions. However, if no town night action interfered with the kill, I think it's highly likely that if Drazerk is scum his shot was on the target he intended. It could be the same for 3rd party Drazerk, but maybe scum bussed S&B with someone and Drazerk didn't know. This response is so wrong there's no justification for it from a town point of view. Let's take a moment to examine what was said here:
There are reasons why unclaimed shots might have been from someone in the town. For example, Lord Kanti's KP from Aperture Mafia. Based on the flips that have already occured this game, I don't think that it's irrational to assume that a role with KP doesn't have some other stuff associated with it. The fact that Draz didn't immediately claim his shot doesn't imply that he's scum. That second part about the busdriver is (a) wrong and (b) blue fishing. In the event of a busdriver, 98% of the time, the person performing the action isn't notified of a bussing. Therefore, Draz would not know that he had bussed, and wouldn't have known to claim that he shot S+B. And why on earth are you implying that there's a town busdriver to begin with? Why do you keep fishing for blues? As town, you should know better than to spout off stuff like this. You would have taken a step back and realized that this post doesn't accomplish anything other than create more chaos while people discuss why you are completely wrong. Town gonzaw is better than this. | ||
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If it wasn't, answer the question, draz. | ||
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Only thing I came away with was he claimed vig back on Day 2. One shot vanilla vig. | ||
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I don't know and I don't care about the rolls and the lore in the game. Aperture 1 was won by Foolishness pretty much saying "I don't care about the lore/roles/what'sgoingoninthethread. Let's find us some scum." Do that. Do you think he's scum based on what he did in this game. | ||
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Your theory based on me wanting to get S+B lynched over Nisani, assuming that I thought S+B was actually RS at the time is slightly better, from my point of view, but wrong. Town credit would be less useful than keeping the other scum faction alive in that scenario. At that point in the game, the town didn't know that there was a second scum faction. But eliminating the RS too fast, the BS would be at a disadvantage. Unless they had a lot of stored KP or something, and could just nuke the town to victory. It's a possibility, but unlikely. Given what's happened in the game, I would argue that as BS, it would be in my best interest to lynch town in that situation. As far as reads, I'm not happy about it, but I think that you and S+B are town. If you both are scum, I'll give you guys the win for outing yourselves that way. My hat to you. I buy Draz's claim for the time being. He's nuts, for sure, but his claim makes sense in a Draz-ish sort of way. JH has been kind of worthless all game. I'm too lazy to really look into him at the moment, but he's giving off so BS vibes. I doubt anyone would listen, so I would rather focus my energies on the group that I will present next. BELIEVING THIS TO BE TRUE, that means that there are two red scum and one black scum in the following group:
HiroPro has been pretty much useless all game long. I'll give him BS status for the time being. Looking back at the voting patterns, mattchew was the primary mover behind the IMP lynch, which means that he has to be either BS or town. Since I think HP is BS, that means that mattchew has to be town, which only leaves austinmcc and mattchew remaining. tl;dr
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Still think Gonzaw is scum. I'm going to finish up my analysis of Gonzaw's voting Day 1, then eat dinner. brb | ||
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What's the important thing that happened the first day? We lynched scum. Not only did we lynch scum, we lynched the mafia godfather JOAT. That's a hell of a catch on our part: there's no reason for the scum to bandwagon such a powerful player on Day 1. So what was the sequence of events that lead up to the lynching of our dearly departed friend iamperfection? First person to vote IMP is gonzaw. Linky. Why? + Show Spoiler + Anyways, the people that I'm actually interested in seemed to have disappeared. Oh well. Anyways.....tomorrow I have a test, then I have to go to uni so I won't be home in nearly all day, so I don't know if I'll be around for the deadline (don't really know when it is). Just in case I miss it I'll make a placeholder vote on iamperfection: ##Vote: iamperfection Next guy to vote IMP is Mementoss. He comes into the thread, and does a quick analysis based on the meta of IMP, and decides to vote him accordingly. Linky Next page, IMP posts, and gonzaw quickly rebuttals his post, kind of funny since gonzaw thinks he's scum. Then, out of nowhere, Gonzaw retracts his vote. He gives as much reason for the retraction as he does for his first vote. Apparently, the fact that I remind IMP of Palmar from Rockband is enough of a reason for Gonzaw to know that he's not scum anymore, and push JH. linky Then, mattchew rides in on his golden stallion: linky. He gives some actual analysis, and it's off to the races. Of note: austinmcc explicitly says he's not voting IMP. HiroPro comes in and makes it three votes on IMP. linky Finally, XFire makes it four votes for the lynch of IMP. linky Ghost, you're a blubbering mad man. You're probably right, and I don't care. I think that Gonzaw pushed his scum buddy Day 1 when he made a crappy vote, pulled his vote after it started gaining traction, then abandoned thread when it started to look like his scum buddy going down. It makes sense, it's not a bad move to make as scum. When you combine that with the fact that Gonzaw has spent most of the thread mudslinging and whining instead of scumhunting, and the fact that he's frequently and repeated suggested and pushed massclaims when we really don't know anything about the game setup, I think it all points to scum. Unfortunately, I'm too lazy/hungry to post all of that stuff. ##vote gonzaw | ||
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On October 10 2012 04:42 austinmcc wrote: Oh ghoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooost. Would you like to claim? If everyone is being truthful, you used something on HiroPro N2. And HiroPro redirected to Gonzaw N2, so barring funny business, your action should have actually ... taken place on Gonzaw? HiroPro/Gonzaw, do either of you know how the tracking would come out in that situation? Someone is lying, I checked Draz Night 2. Roleclaim coming up in a bit. | ||
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