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ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
October 04 2012 20:48 GMT
#686
@S+B: Why did you decide to breadcrumb your role when you did?
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
October 05 2012 15:24 GMT
#785
Can anyone who actually read page 39 tell me if it's worth my time to actually read page 39? Seriously, an entire page of Gonzaw and JH bickering?
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
October 05 2012 20:20 GMT
#839
On October 06 2012 05:10 gonzaw wrote:
Yeah, it's possible.
However, if there was 1 KP that got to S&B. someone must have shot it. If the guy that shot it was town, he'd have claimed, therefore it's either scum or SK KP (basically anti-town KP). Drazerk claimed that KP and nobody cc'ed, so it at least proves Drazerk shot him (whether as town, scum or SK).

You may be right about the targets though, maybe a town bus driver bussed S&B with a pro-town townie and scum/SK Drazerk shot S&B instead of his intended target.

Yeah, we might leave that out until we have more claims or knowledge of night actions. However, if no town night action interfered with the kill, I think it's highly likely that if Drazerk is scum his shot was on the target he intended.
It could be the same for 3rd party Drazerk, but maybe scum bussed S&B with someone and Drazerk didn't know.


This response is so wrong there's no justification for it from a town point of view.

Let's take a moment to examine what was said here:
  • Any unclaimed shot must be anti-town
  • Unquestioning belief that Draz is telling the truth
  • More blue fishing
  • Stuff that was just plain wrong


There are reasons why unclaimed shots might have been from someone in the town. For example, Lord Kanti's KP from Aperture Mafia. Based on the flips that have already occured this game, I don't think that it's irrational to assume that a role with KP doesn't have some other stuff associated with it. The fact that Draz didn't immediately claim his shot doesn't imply that he's scum.

That second part about the busdriver is (a) wrong and (b) blue fishing. In the event of a busdriver, 98% of the time, the person performing the action isn't notified of a bussing. Therefore, Draz would not know that he had bussed, and wouldn't have known to claim that he shot S+B. And why on earth are you implying that there's a town busdriver to begin with? Why do you keep fishing for blues?

As town, you should know better than to spout off stuff like this. You would have taken a step back and realized that this post doesn't accomplish anything other than create more chaos while people discuss why you are completely wrong. Town gonzaw is better than this.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
October 07 2012 00:13 GMT
#985
Sup draz. Given one bullet, who would you like to shoot?
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
October 07 2012 00:25 GMT
#988
I didn't see that as a scum claim on the first reading.

If it wasn't, answer the question, draz.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
October 07 2012 00:28 GMT
#991
Why's that? Just his general behavior during the game, or is there some deeper logic to your choice?
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
October 07 2012 00:37 GMT
#998
Just did, and it was miserable.

Only thing I came away with was he claimed vig back on Day 2. One shot vanilla vig.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
October 07 2012 00:45 GMT
#1002
Gonzaw, stop with the fucking setup speculation.

I don't know and I don't care about the rolls and the lore in the game. Aperture 1 was won by Foolishness pretty much saying "I don't care about the lore/roles/what'sgoingoninthethread. Let's find us some scum." Do that.

Do you think he's scum based on what he did in this game.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
October 07 2012 01:04 GMT
#1010
I'm not "not contributing", I'm gone. There's a difference. I do my best to contribute while I'm here, and I don't while I'm not. Would you prefer I spam one liners and worthless posts to make it look like I'm here more than I really am?
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
October 07 2012 01:14 GMT
#1013
If I don't have time to figure out what's going on in the thread, I don't post. I could come in here and spam up in the ten minutes I've got free during lunch, or I could just not post until I have an hour or two to figure out what's going on in the thread. Which would you prefer, and how does this conversation help you find scum?
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
October 07 2012 01:32 GMT
#1015
So am I a hypocrite or am I scum?
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
October 07 2012 02:02 GMT
#1022
@keirathi: If you're refering to your posts that are trying to link me and XFire over me thinking he was buddying me, me deciding that he wasn't buddying me, and me responding sarcastically to that, yes I have, and I think it's kind of ridiculous to link me based on that.

Your theory based on me wanting to get S+B lynched over Nisani, assuming that I thought S+B was actually RS at the time is slightly better, from my point of view, but wrong. Town credit would be less useful than keeping the other scum faction alive in that scenario. At that point in the game, the town didn't know that there was a second scum faction. But eliminating the RS too fast, the BS would be at a disadvantage. Unless they had a lot of stored KP or something, and could just nuke the town to victory. It's a possibility, but unlikely. Given what's happened in the game, I would argue that as BS, it would be in my best interest to lynch town in that situation.

As far as reads, I'm not happy about it, but I think that you and S+B are town. If you both are scum, I'll give you guys the win for outing yourselves that way. My hat to you.

I buy Draz's claim for the time being. He's nuts, for sure, but his claim makes sense in a Draz-ish sort of way.

JH has been kind of worthless all game. I'm too lazy to really look into him at the moment, but he's giving off so BS vibes. I doubt anyone would listen, so I would rather focus my energies on the group that I will present next.

BELIEVING THIS TO BE TRUE, that means that there are two red scum and one black scum in the following group:
  • Mattchew
  • austinmcc
  • HiroPro
  • gonzaw

HiroPro has been pretty much useless all game long. I'll give him BS status for the time being.

Looking back at the voting patterns, mattchew was the primary mover behind the IMP lynch, which means that he has to be either BS or town. Since I think HP is BS, that means that mattchew has to be town, which only leaves austinmcc and mattchew remaining.

tl;dr
  • keirathi, s+b, drazerk, mattchew, ghost
  • jinglehell, hiropro
  • austinmcc, gonzaw
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
October 07 2012 02:09 GMT
#1024
Isn't that the same setup as liar game? And is that seriously the only thing that you took away from that post?
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
October 07 2012 02:13 GMT
#1029
Eights look like threes when you're hungry.

Still think Gonzaw is scum.

I'm going to finish up my analysis of Gonzaw's voting Day 1, then eat dinner. brb
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
October 07 2012 02:29 GMT
#1034
It's amazing how short our collective memories are as a town.

What's the important thing that happened the first day? We lynched scum. Not only did we lynch scum, we lynched the mafia godfather JOAT. That's a hell of a catch on our part: there's no reason for the scum to bandwagon such a powerful player on Day 1.

So what was the sequence of events that lead up to the lynching of our dearly departed friend iamperfection?



First person to vote IMP is gonzaw. Linky. Why?
+ Show Spoiler +
Anyways, the people that I'm actually interested in seemed to have disappeared. Oh well.
Anyways.....tomorrow I have a test, then I have to go to uni so I won't be home in nearly all day, so I don't know if I'll be around for the deadline (don't really know when it is).

Just in case I miss it I'll make a placeholder vote on iamperfection:

##Vote: iamperfection
No good reason. He's as good as any lynch, I guess.

Next guy to vote IMP is Mementoss. He comes into the thread, and does a quick analysis based on the meta of IMP, and decides to vote him accordingly. Linky

Next page, IMP posts, and gonzaw quickly rebuttals his post, kind of funny since gonzaw thinks he's scum.

Then, out of nowhere, Gonzaw retracts his vote. He gives as much reason for the retraction as he does for his first vote. Apparently, the fact that I remind IMP of Palmar from Rockband is enough of a reason for Gonzaw to know that he's not scum anymore, and push JH. linky

Then, mattchew rides in on his golden stallion: linky. He gives some actual analysis, and it's off to the races.

Of note: austinmcc explicitly says he's not voting IMP.

HiroPro comes in and makes it three votes on IMP. linky

Finally, XFire makes it four votes for the lynch of IMP. linky



Ghost, you're a blubbering mad man.

You're probably right, and I don't care. I think that Gonzaw pushed his scum buddy Day 1 when he made a crappy vote, pulled his vote after it started gaining traction, then abandoned thread when it started to look like his scum buddy going down. It makes sense, it's not a bad move to make as scum.

When you combine that with the fact that Gonzaw has spent most of the thread mudslinging and whining instead of scumhunting, and the fact that he's frequently and repeated suggested and pushed massclaims when we really don't know anything about the game setup, I think it all points to scum.

Unfortunately, I'm too lazy/hungry to post all of that stuff.

##vote gonzaw
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
October 07 2012 02:30 GMT
#1035
Oh, and there's that stuff with his new plan to tell scum who the medic is protecting right before the deadline. Yeah, that's a pro-town plan. If the medic targets town, scum can kill the confirmed town. If the medic targets the confirmed town, scum can have their way with whoever they think would look best dead. Great plan there, buddy.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
October 07 2012 02:31 GMT
#1036
Now, to the kitchen!
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
October 10 2012 14:42 GMT
#1537
On October 10 2012 04:42 austinmcc wrote:
Oh ghoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooost.

Would you like to claim? If everyone is being truthful, you used something on HiroPro N2. And HiroPro redirected to Gonzaw N2, so barring funny business, your action should have actually ... taken place on Gonzaw?

HiroPro/Gonzaw, do either of you know how the tracking would come out in that situation?



Someone is lying, I checked Draz Night 2. Roleclaim coming up in a bit.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
October 10 2012 14:49 GMT
#1538
EBWOP: The guy who made that post is an idiot, I swapped with HiroPro and checked Draz. Comfirming I did something to Hiro Night 2.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
October 10 2012 14:56 GMT
#1539
Alright, I'm a Malfunctioning sentry turret. GLaDOS swapped my turrets with a portal gun, so I can swap places with peoples at night. Also, I can check the alignment of the person below me on the player list. Night 1, I didn't move and checked JingleHell. Night 2, I swapped with HiroPro and checked Drazerk. Night 3, I guess I stayed where I was at and checked Keirathi.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
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