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thrawn2112
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On September 27 2012 23:07 ShiaoPi wrote: So are you pegging SnB as likely scum at the moment or just suspicious? I wouldn't go so far as "likely" but I'd say most suspicious looking dude. And if he's scum then I'd be pretty suspicious of Sinensis. I wanna see his (sinensis) response to what I asked him. | ||
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thrawn2112
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On September 27 2012 23:28 iamperfection wrote: are you seriously doing association shit already. how about this we find fucking scum first before we try to start making links between players. Isn't analyzing interactions between players part of figuring out who is scum? | ||
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thrawn2112
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On September 27 2012 23:33 iamperfection wrote: how do scum players interact with each other? in the instance I was talking about, a strange/unexplained/contradictory changing of a read from suspicious to not suspicious | ||
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thrawn2112
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On September 27 2012 23:34 ShiaoPi wrote: Hmm...dunno about this vote on Thrawn yet. Not clearly enough scum motivated in his posts until now for me to join your vote Iamperfection. Not wanting to exonerate him, but he could very well be just doing this as town. I'm off to bed...was a long day :S You say there's not enough in my posts that are scum motivated for you to vote for me, so obviously you must think some things look scum motivated. What looks scummy? | ||
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Alright otto that is 3 votes against you. You've been accused of giving a bad defense and it was, it was more of a deflection than a defense. You've also been accused of not giving your full read on snb earlier and that was also true. So if snb is your top scumread can you give all the reasons why, and if he's not your top read / you're just waiting on his response or whatever, then who else looks scummy and why? | ||
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On September 28 2012 04:42 Sinensis wrote: No, do you? "Ur useless!" "No ur useless!" "No ur uselesser!" Isn't helping anyone and is probably making both of you angry. There's no reason to do that. When you say something like "I'm making a note of it" to me that suggests that you're implying there's something scummy going on but you don't want to come right out and say what it is, but that's not what I'm getting from this last response. Were you suspicious of how we were interacting? | ||
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lol do you really not know what I'm talking about? On September 28 2012 00:32 Ottoxlol wrote: I will wait for him to post, then we will see You are asked who you will vote for, as in, who do you think is the scummiest. This is at a time when snb was who you were talking about. Your response was that you were waiting on snb to reply before you could answer the question. | ||
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So your original problems with snb's suggestion were that you couldn't see how it could be fairly done as far as actual logistics goes? You didn't say anything like that at all when you said you first said you didn't like the idea. | ||
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On September 28 2012 12:13 austinmcc wrote: Let me know if that wasn't it, or if you've got other concerns. Headed to bed now but I'll be looking around tomorrow since I don't like Ottox as a lynch any more. if you're still up please say who you do prefer as a vote, we're pretty damn close to deadline already | ||
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thrawn2112
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On September 28 2012 12:25 austinmcc wrote: Off the top of my head, nobody's sticking out as someone I really want to vote. I'd like to see ShiaoPi answer the questions the were addressed to him a while back, as well as give his thoughts on Ottox. I want to look over you and phagga again. Ottox's defense was so not-a-defense that it felt townie to me. Again, I'd actually like to know what people think about his play after getting a vote(s) and how they read it. Phagga voted shortly after myself, but you came in after a while. I don't like you voting even though you yourself thought it was more of deflection than defense. I actually really don't think I like that, you get a close read! There's a distinction between making a bad defense and making a bad defense by deflecting... I'd say deflecting is scummy. And sorry I dont know what you mean by "close read." | ||
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On September 28 2012 13:14 Sinensis wrote: ##Unvote austinmcc is being logical, compliant, and is saying things I agree with so I can't justify voting for him today anymore. Even though I disagree with him about hammer votes, he is right about it being largely irrelevant. @Bluelightz: Your vote had the least amount of analysis behind it of any vote so far. Are you sticking with your vote or was that just to put pressure on austinmcc to start scum hunting? I will be curious to see if you and austinmcc have a dialog. @Thrawn2112: I accuse you of only going after other people in order to direct attention away from yourself, and I accuse you of picking easy targets. Also, I accuse you of trying to disrupt communication between other players. You're quick to nit pick every post we make but you rarely follow through with your nit picking. What do you have to say about that? First what are you talking about with this part? " Also, I accuse you of trying to disrupt communication between other players" Also could you be more specific with the accusations? | ||
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On September 28 2012 13:14 Sinensis wrote:@Thrawn2112: I accuse you of only going after other people in order to direct attention away from yourself, and I accuse you of picking easy targets. So if I were to not go after other people that would somehow be better than what I've been doing? Well of course not. So how are you making the distinction that I'm trying to direct attention from myself? Are the accusations or questions I've posted scummy looking? Basically it seems like you are accusing me of "too much scumhunting" without going into detail about how the scumhunting looks suspicious. On September 28 2012 13:14 Sinensis wrote:Also, I accuse you of trying to disrupt communication between other players. You're quick to nit pick every post we make but you rarely follow through with your nit picking. I'm trying to disrupt communication? So I'm just supposed to sit back and let everyone talk to each other and then come in afterwards with my read without being able to ask people questions beforehand? And I think "rarely follow through" is an exaggeration. Which "nitpicks" do you have a problem with? Is your concern about the number of them or the usefulness of them? What I want you to be more specific about is exact cases you're accusing me over. Tell me which ones you're actually talking about. You've just made some general statements about my play without actually saying which specific examples you think are scummy and why, and honestly I'm a little wary about how genuine your intentions are. | ||
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On September 28 2012 14:05 Sinensis wrote: That's not a response, that's a bunch of semi sarcastic questions; half of which you answered yourself. No thanks. ##Vote: Thrawn2112 I'm keeping my vote here for now. I'd like to see what everyone else thinks too. Those are serious questions I want you to answer, and they address the the problems I have with your accusations. Anyways, Sinensis makes this comment: On September 27 2012 04:52 Sinensis wrote: You guys have spent several posts shifting around blame for nothing. I'm just making a note of it. I addressed this earlier. Going so far as to call it out and say he's "just making a note of it" all reads like he was suspicious of our actions. When I asked him to further elaborate, he said: On September 28 2012 04:42 Sinensis wrote: No, do you? "Ur useless!" "No ur useless!" "No ur uselesser!" Isn't helping anyone and is probably making both of you angry. There's no reason to do that. He doesn't say anything about him thinking it was suspicious. Just that it was probably making us angry so we shouldn't act like that. No hint of suspicion at all there. I pointed that out to him and asked him if what he was thinking at the time of the original post and his response was: On September 28 2012 11:08 Sinensis wrote: Mafia members sometimes have useless little disagreements like you were doing, especially early on, in order to create distance between them in the town's eyes. So I made a note of it. So now his stance is that he was suspicious of us maybe being mafia and faking a disagreement. I see no consistency between his first post and his last. He has also completely disregarded my defense, and something I want to point out about his case against me is this: On September 28 2012 13:55 thrawn2112 wrote: So if I were to not go after other people that would somehow be better than what I've been doing? Well of course not. So how are you making the distinction that I'm trying to direct attention from myself? Are the accusations or questions I've posted scummy looking? Basically it seems like you are accusing me of "too much scumhunting" without going into detail about how the scumhunting looks suspicious. I'm trying to disrupt communication? So I'm just supposed to sit back and let everyone talk to each other and then come in afterwards with my read without being able to ask people questions beforehand? And I think "rarely follow through" is an exaggeration. Which "nitpicks" do you have a problem with? Is your concern about the number of them or the usefulness of them? What I want you to be more specific about is exact cases you're accusing me over. Tell me which ones you're actually talking about. You've just made some general statements about my play without actually saying which specific examples you think are scummy and why, and honestly I'm a little wary about how genuine your intentions are. He makes a case against me that's full of general statements about my play. I address each of his concerns and ask for specific examples of what I've done is scummy. He responds by not answering or talking about a single thing I posted in that defense and brushes it aside and votes for me. ##Unvote ##Vote Sinensis | ||
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