Liquid City Mafia

On September 30 2012 13:14 BlackMamba24 wrote:
I can tell you this much. Let go of trust. Your doctor, your local police officer, even the nice old lady at the grocery store might be on the mafia payroll. The only thing you can trust is your own mind.

On September 30 2012 13:14 BlackMamba24 wrote:
The only thing you can trust is your own mind.

On September 30 2012 15:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also I'd like to know what you found worth reading in annul's post. First of all, setup speculation (as the mod has pointed out) is useless. Not to mention the fact that he's trying to sell certainties rather than speculating anyway - speculation has an air of questioning and uncertainty, but annul's post brashly made assumptions based on the daypost which I find terribly suspicious.

On September 30 2012 23:31 Mattchew wrote:
I am disappointed annul didn't follow up with any discussion about the on-going game afterwards

On September 30 2012 23:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
However, I'd like for you to explain why an FoS of you is "FoSable" please. This is probably gonna be good.

##vote: annul

On September 30 2012 23:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
Anyway, that's all you got right now so I'd certainly not lynch you for that.

On October 01 2012 00:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
I voted for you because you said you were gonna FoS me without FoSing me like a little bitch.

On October 01 2012 00:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
I know you as scum tend to give town more information than they need.

On October 01 2012 00:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
So when I see you making assumptions about the game based on the daypost (clues or no, what you did wasn't speculating).

On October 01 2012 00:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yes, I voted for you.

On October 01 2012 13:18 kushm4sta wrote:


He's a lynch I can feel good about even if he flips green.

On October 02 2012 08:29 Sharrant wrote:
@Risk



Yes. I told you, I got up early to make a post. I spent an hour going through filters and writing that post.

Anyways, I'm not talking any more about anything even related to my previous activity level, it's pointless.

So, onto the important stuff.

On Austin: Austin seems quite scummy to me, with almost all of his posts having been focused on KJ using "spy" instead of scum. I agree that it threw me at first, and I was pretty suspicious because of it (see my earlier post). That was his only bit of scum hunting though, was going after him for saying spy. Yes, he unvoted him after that, but never tried to pick up on anyone else after. He asks for opinions about Shady and Kush's play, but doesn't feel the need to write a word about them in return.

I'm giving him leeway for now because Marv said that his play thus far has been according to his meta, and that's something I'll trust him about. If his posting doesn't improve by day 2 though, I think he'd be looking like a nice target to lynch.


@everyone
Can someone please tell me if Risk is usually this agressive? I've never played with him before, but he seems kind of off the rails at this point. I'm suspicious of him, but especially since his last post I'm thinking that he just gets really emotional when he plays.

On Risk:
You just kind of suggest a lynch on Kush without explaining or even mentioning suspicions of him. Then you make a post about KJ and vote Shady, again without explaining or even mentioning suspicions of him. Then your case on me is entirely "I assume he's been following the thread". THat's it. THe end. You took no exception with anything I said, didn't see anything wrong or misinterepreted, taken out of context or distorted to call me out on. You just said "Hey, he made a long post as his first post. Scum for sure". Apparently so scummy that you would prefer to drop Shady, KJ and Kush all just to lynch me if more people were around.

At this point, I think you're scum. I'd love to be wrong, if you can link me to some of your past games, that'd be great. Maybe this just is standard to how you play, and someone will let me know, but I think you're scummy.

##vote Risk.Nuke

I'll have another post up either at or a little after the night post, with reads on a few more people.

On October 02 2012 08:42 kingjames01 wrote:


This is a good point. With annul it's kind of hard to tell usually. Sometimes mafia annul gets through the early days by flying under the radar and showing up every now and then to vote.

If it continues, then I would be very wary of trusting anything he says because he is really good at amplifying flaws in logical arguments.

On October 02 2012 09:26 kingjames01 wrote:
It fits how you're playing so far this game but it doesn't mean you're scum. It could also mean you're Town.

On October 02 2012 09:55 Sharrant wrote:
On Annul
No reads on anyone.

@Annul
What do you think would be a better situation for a lynch? I'm assuming Kush is up there, but who else?

On October 02 2012 09:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
Strange time to take issue with that, considering the push for austin...but you know...to each his own. What's your read of austinmcc annul?

On October 02 2012 10:05 kingjames01 wrote:
I don't like how quiet the game has become now that Shady Sands is the leader.

On October 02 2012 10:57 kushm4sta wrote:
wait wait why are we voting shady if he hasn't voted yet and will probably be replaced??

On October 02 2012 11:19 Risen wrote:


I don't exactly like drawing the conclusion that easy lynches = not scum. Maybe that is what scum wants you to think? I understand not wanting to waste a lynch since Shady is apparently to be modkilled, though.

On October 02 2012 11:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
"Hey scumbuddies Marv and austinmcc, how can we save our scumbuddy ShadySands from imminent lynch?" -scumVE

"I've been hoarding this Node case since he made his second post. I was afraid to post it but..." -scumAustin

"DO IT!!!" -scumVE and scumMarv in unison

"But what if they..."

"DO IT!!!!"

On October 02 2012 11:23 VisceraEyes wrote:
Twilight pushes are scary to oppose as scum annul - because at that point, if there are enough people agreeing with it, then they're drawing A LOT of attention to themselves in trying to protect a scumbuddy. I mean, I don't know what you're counting as "resistance", but honestly since it's all happened in the last like 10 minutes, what kind of resistance are you expecting from scumbuddies?

On October 02 2012 11:29 VisceraEyes wrote:


...not sure if srs...

On October 02 2012 11:36 VisceraEyes wrote:


Well I mean...I went and checked the vote thread...

Anyway, I get what you're saying...do you think it's austin? You just gave a greenish read on him. What are your thoughts on Marv? And if Node is such a "known townie" then why was the wagon so easy?

I'm just trying to figure out where the problem is here...do you like Node for a lynch candidate or not? Time is of the essence, hence the fast votes - it didn't happen out of nowhere, people have expressed displeasure with both his content AND his activity. What are YOUR thoughts on Node EXCLUDING the events of the last 20 minutes?

On October 02 2012 12:01 iamperfection wrote:

when did shady push anything? How could a town player reading the thread think shady is town because he pushed something after his trolling. what did shady push?

On October 02 2012 12:04 Sharrant wrote:
I think the point Perfection was making is that Node mentioned both of those things.

On October 01 2012 17:40 Node wrote:
I don't think Shady Sands is scum -- at least, not given what we've seen so far. His "trolling" antics were silly, but they weren't scummy. If he were scum, I don't think he would've dropped the trolling pretext so quickly, and I certainly don't think he would be willing to reappear and start pushing targets.

On October 02 2012 12:11 austinmcc wrote:

It makes no sense for node to have defended shady based on what he might do in the future. if you interpret it that way, it's not a defense, it's speculation about future actions that shady might take

On October 02 2012 12:18 austinmcc wrote:
So unless you like that point, Node's defense was "His trolling antics were silly, but they weren't scummy."

On October 02 2012 12:33 austinmcc wrote:
How are you going to say that node defended shady, which you liked because it matched what you were doing all day.

On October 02 2012 12:52 kushm4sta wrote:
annul we got less than 10 minutes lol..z boson is not happening

On October 02 2012 13:08 Shady Sands wrote:
Just stepped off plane.

## Vote Node since I'm not scum and even though I have no idea whether node is scum or not it makes more sense to lynch the person who might be scum than the person who I know is not scum.

On October 02 2012 13:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
That's not the worst part. The worst part is we lynched a townie. That's just a bad, expected, forseeable part.

On October 02 2012 13:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
The worst part is that we didn't fucking lynch scum annul.

On October 02 2012 13:35 mkfuba07 wrote:
So did this net us multiple reds?

On October 02 2012 13:24 annul wrote:
this gave us little to no information, too, which is the worst part.

On October 02 2012 14:22 kushm4sta wrote:
annal
your case against me is dumb/lazy. I don't buy it. You've never played with newbs before? I doubt it.

You go from what looks like contrived anger to buddy buddy jokes with VE.

You derailed the Node bandwagon, thus securing the shady lynch. You acted like you didn't want shady lynch but your actions supported it.

##vote annul

On October 02 2012 14:26 Z-BosoN wrote:

Right.
I rest my case.

On October 02 2012 14:30 BroodKingEXE wrote:



Annul WTF is up with your kush scum read? You keep hinting that you think he is scum, but go out on the limb and commuinicate with him a couple times.

On October 02 2012 21:39 marvellosity wrote:
I'll explain it a little more factually for you, Kreb.

At the time I started the voting off, the austin wagon was already not getting off the ground. Before I laid my vote, the count was at Shady: 9, austin: 3. And in fact people were consolidating on to Shady; when I placed my vote, the previous 5 votes had gone on to Shady. For Node to be a 'distractionary' wagon, it would certainly be a distractionary wagon off of Shady.

Now tell me how this makes sense?

On October 03 2012 01:46 VisceraEyes wrote:


WTF is this shit? Do you think marv is scum or not? Because this looks like fanning flames to me. Clearly you're trying to reinforce this idea that marv was leading a distraction-wagon by positing a motivation for doing so as scum while he's defending himself - however you don't give an opinions one way or the other. In fact, given the information we have right now (Shady's flip) I'd say it's more likely that Node is scum and your premise is based on the idea that Node is town. AGAIN.

So. Annul. Tell me. What is Node's alignment? What do you THINK is marv's alignment?

On October 03 2012 01:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
Annul explain this too. BEFORE night ends.

On October 03 2012 02:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Someone shoot him. We can lynch Node easier than Annul, and I want them both dead.

Medics, on me and marv.

DTs, on BC and Mattchew.

We totally got this.

On October 03 2012 02:06 austinmcc wrote:
if node flips red then annul looks awful,

On October 03 2012 02:30 austinmcc wrote:
annul is 100% correct that he never defends Shady.

On October 03 2012 02:33 austinmcc wrote:
Oh...hey. Super relevant.

DrH's post on the other queue site:I don't think we're meant to know what all the roles mean/do.

Also confirms 1 third party with abnormal win condition.

On October 03 2012 03:46 kushm4sta wrote:
Anull who would you have wanted to lynch instead? Z boson really?

On October 03 2012 04:17 Z-BosoN wrote:


And that explains why you vote switched me and then Shady Sands?

On October 03 2012 06:44 austinmcc wrote:
Node scum.
If node scum, annul and Z-BosoN scum.
mkfuba very scummy.

On October 03 2012 07:05 Mattchew wrote:
Annul, his 5 page filter has nothing of actual value in terms of reasoning, scum-hunting, or explaining his thought process. He also was extremely active in the hours leading up the lynch and ended up pushing no candidate. Here is annul's last scum game filter, I feel it reads very very similar to his filter this game (link plz click)

On October 03 2012 08:22 marvellosity wrote:
And yeah, annul is definitely scummy. I detest him objecting to pretty much every candidate just on the way the wagon went and not pushing people properly himself.

On October 03 2012 08:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
If he flips scum its helpful and if he flips town it sucks but removes a disruptive player .

On October 03 2012 09:48 VisceraEyes wrote:


That's what you think...until he actually feels like he might be lynched. Then watch.

*shiver*

Palmar couldn't get the guy lynched. PALMAR. And his newbie brigade was in full force at the time!

On October 03 2012 11:38 Risen wrote:


Why?

This why applies to 2 things. Why am I still awake? And why not share your thoughts before daypost? Why are you taking your thoughts to the grave if you're a townie?

On October 03 2012 12:13 Risen wrote:


Why do you know you're going to live through the night?

On October 03 2012 12:35 kushm4sta wrote:
IMO annul's biggest motivation not to post is laziness. Fake scumhunting is hard because you have to go against what you know to be true. He does not want to put forth that effort if there is a possibility that he is going to to be vig shot..

On October 03 2012 13:01 Mattchew wrote:
omg annul sucks, lets kill him

On October 06 2012 01:51 Christ the Redeemer wrote:
How do you play this game? I want to join, sadly I don't know how to play at all