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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
October 14 2012 03:09 GMT
#3068
On October 14 2012 12:05 Kreb wrote:
Ok, here we go. More recent reasonable arguments for Matt over Shiao. More players I consider trustable on the Matt side.
##Unvote VisceraEyes
##Vote Mattchew

who are the players you consider more trustable? whatever the fuck that means
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
October 14 2012 04:17 GMT
#3089
i just want to say the perfect one has been right a lot this game. That is all.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
October 14 2012 16:12 GMT
#3111
On October 15 2012 00:54 Kreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 00:41 Coagulation wrote:
I cant imagine BC would lie to us.

He doesnt seem like hes intending to lie. And him being the roleblocker would make sense because we've only got two claims. But night immune 3rd party + roleblocker when its not in the PM doesnt make sense either....

yes i don't understand what bc was talking about with the passive role blocks either.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
October 14 2012 17:07 GMT
#3125
On October 14 2012 15:57 Keirathi wrote:
Totally!

you don't believe your conspiracy theory anymore?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
October 15 2012 13:05 GMT
#3157
On October 15 2012 16:46 Kreb wrote:
9 left. 6/3 town/mafia. So mislynch next should mean town loses.

Lets 1v1 VE? Im all in.

##Vote VisceraEyes

If what sloosh suggested is correct then ve is almost certainly town. A "jailer" would and 2 kp would imply that VE cant be scum. I am not willing to bet the game on ve being scum.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
October 15 2012 13:23 GMT
#3159
On October 15 2012 22:16 Z-BosoN wrote:
No, the mafia jailer can simply roleblock his scum partner as there would be no other blue roles to block.

so they roleblocked scum ve themselves day 1.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
October 15 2012 18:03 GMT
#3162
On October 16 2012 00:05 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 22:23 iamperfection wrote:
On October 15 2012 22:16 Z-BosoN wrote:
No, the mafia jailer can simply roleblock his scum partner as there would be no other blue roles to block.

so they roleblocked scum ve themselves day 1.


Yep.
It's not as far-fetched as it may seem. We know for certain the roleblocker is mafia.
VE's "it's going to be an eventful night", according to him, is why he got RB. I think that a very... weird way to claim, and could possibility be a justification for that.

Anyways, activity is getting low, come on guys, we really need to be active now that we are in mylo. It seems that most people are just accepting a sloosh lynch, but that's far from the attitude we need.

We still need a good theory on wtf is going on with the other night's nks. I don't buy that they shot both BC (again) and mattchew. They could have easily, easily shot mementoss and kei before, why wait until now?



I disagree why would they waste a role block like that when they know there are tons of blues running around. Just for some elaborate plan to save VE as much as possible. Ve has been trying to figure out who is scum. ShaoPi despite his stay of execution has still not scum hunted at all.

He is who i would like to lynch still.
On October 14 2012 10:27 ShiaoPi wrote:
Good morning....
I love getting wagoned to death for lack of activity. Let' s get this out first: I know that I am terribly inactive and stuff. Probably warrants the policy lynch pulled on me now. Sorry to disappoint you guys thiugh, I will flip town

What makes all of you think that DP is town? please remember walls of tedt and activity are not exclusiveley towntraits. DP's flip flopping of opinions on kush, the slip with kp and lack of backbone when trying to push his reads is alarming, damning qnd most surely his scumplay. Sine I am still not at home, I cannot make a fullfledged case with quotes etc. to cement my read on him and concinve you (phone is terrible for typing anyway...) Please do me the favor of reading the discussions beyween him and ve as well aw his interactions with boson. Also give the cases which were made on him a second dread. I am pretty sure that he is scum


I dont agree with this reasoning at all. DP flip flopping on kush is somewhat of mis characterization and it wouldn't be a scum tell anyways. Flip flopping is not a scum tell it shows signs of people trying to figure out if someone was scum or not. DP believing kush might be town had the same thinking i had towards the end for kush. Plus lack of backbone?? from what i rember dp was screaming at the top of his lungs when he got into a shit show with z-boson. Also ShiaoPI sates he cant make a proper case with quotes and what not but still hasn't delivered. I see no town motivation in any of the actions by ShiaoPi and at this point in the game i think he has the best chance of flipping scum.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
October 15 2012 19:46 GMT
#3174
@kreb and Ve

How bout you two stop being assholes and stop speaking in riddles.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
October 15 2012 20:03 GMT
#3176
On October 16 2012 04:58 Kreb wrote:
Rather not. Gotta make something happen. VE seems to be very reluctant suddenly though.

............................................................
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
October 15 2012 20:29 GMT
#3181
On October 16 2012 05:25 Kreb wrote:
The irony that you're the one to drop the vote first :D
Still, as expected. The mafia still waiting.



Stop it start making sense.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
October 15 2012 20:44 GMT
#3183
## Vote Kreb

hmm...
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
October 15 2012 22:17 GMT
#3195
On October 16 2012 07:15 Kreb wrote:
Come on people. Surely I dont need to repeat myself. Look at all the points I presented on VE early on. Look at his scumhunting. Look at his pushing of Kush. Look at him jumping on every damn possibility excusing himself. Marvs reaction to the Node wagon, the RBs, the role+alignment framing, the check on MMT he got called out by BC for, the supposed sac KPs for changing Kushs flip.

And if thats not enough, surely Im scum if I've pushed that all game. Vote me instead then.



who is scum besides ve in your view?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
October 15 2012 22:30 GMT
#3201
On October 16 2012 07:29 Coagulation wrote:
IF YOUR TOWN YOU SHOULDNT BE FORCING OTHERS TO PUZZLE TOGETHER YOUR READS FOR NO FUCKING REASON.

this
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
October 16 2012 00:04 GMT
#3217
On October 16 2012 08:12 Z-BosoN wrote:
I'm concerned about iamperfection. His lack of reading regarding DP raised a flag.
On the kush night he voted me saying:

Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 11:05 iamperfection wrote:
dp makes more sense than zboson and i believe kush is town. He panicked the last time he was under pressure of lynch as scum he did not do it here.

## Vote Z-Boson


Which quickly turned into:


Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 07:50 iamperfection wrote:
i dont think that was a scum slip darth. Shaopi random entering into the thread like that droping no new information simply strengthens my read on him. He just jumps in here and says herp derp obvious scum is obvious dosent even consider the other possibilities


I have a strong town read on both darthpunk and Z-boson they have been very open with their thought process and explaining why they think what they think they read as town to me.


I really want to lynch shaopi he has done nothing to make me think he is town.

## Vote Shaopi


He reached a conclusion based on an interchange me and DP had, and then decided that we are both town, without adding much. Now he shows signs that he didn't read into me/DP at all. If he didn't read, how did he change conclusions so fast? The same interchange he used to vote on me he used to claim me town, and that strikes me as weird. Want to elaborate?

you idiots are probably both town you guys were arguing basically the same thing against each other. It might not look like that to you but well thats what it looked like to me.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
October 16 2012 00:20 GMT
#3220
On October 16 2012 09:17 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2012 09:04 iamperfection wrote:
On October 16 2012 08:12 Z-BosoN wrote:
I'm concerned about iamperfection. His lack of reading regarding DP raised a flag.
On the kush night he voted me saying:

On October 11 2012 11:05 iamperfection wrote:
dp makes more sense than zboson and i believe kush is town. He panicked the last time he was under pressure of lynch as scum he did not do it here.

## Vote Z-Boson


Which quickly turned into:


On October 13 2012 07:50 iamperfection wrote:
i dont think that was a scum slip darth. Shaopi random entering into the thread like that droping no new information simply strengthens my read on him. He just jumps in here and says herp derp obvious scum is obvious dosent even consider the other possibilities


I have a strong town read on both darthpunk and Z-boson they have been very open with their thought process and explaining why they think what they think they read as town to me.


I really want to lynch shaopi he has done nothing to make me think he is town.

## Vote Shaopi


He reached a conclusion based on an interchange me and DP had, and then decided that we are both town, without adding much. Now he shows signs that he didn't read into me/DP at all. If he didn't read, how did he change conclusions so fast? The same interchange he used to vote on me he used to claim me town, and that strikes me as weird. Want to elaborate?

you idiots are probably both town you guys were arguing basically the same thing against each other. It might not look like that to you but well thats what it looked like to me.

That's because you skimmed over it. You haven't read any of the cases against DP to claim that he's a target because of his kush flip-flop. How bout you read the fucking game now that we are in mylo hm?

stfu if you read the game you would know that im town and your just wasting time.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
October 16 2012 00:30 GMT
#3222
On October 16 2012 09:24 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2012 09:20 iamperfection wrote:
On October 16 2012 09:17 Z-BosoN wrote:
On October 16 2012 09:04 iamperfection wrote:
On October 16 2012 08:12 Z-BosoN wrote:
I'm concerned about iamperfection. His lack of reading regarding DP raised a flag.
On the kush night he voted me saying:

On October 11 2012 11:05 iamperfection wrote:
dp makes more sense than zboson and i believe kush is town. He panicked the last time he was under pressure of lynch as scum he did not do it here.

## Vote Z-Boson


Which quickly turned into:


On October 13 2012 07:50 iamperfection wrote:
i dont think that was a scum slip darth. Shaopi random entering into the thread like that droping no new information simply strengthens my read on him. He just jumps in here and says herp derp obvious scum is obvious dosent even consider the other possibilities


I have a strong town read on both darthpunk and Z-boson they have been very open with their thought process and explaining why they think what they think they read as town to me.


I really want to lynch shaopi he has done nothing to make me think he is town.

## Vote Shaopi


He reached a conclusion based on an interchange me and DP had, and then decided that we are both town, without adding much. Now he shows signs that he didn't read into me/DP at all. If he didn't read, how did he change conclusions so fast? The same interchange he used to vote on me he used to claim me town, and that strikes me as weird. Want to elaborate?

you idiots are probably both town you guys were arguing basically the same thing against each other. It might not look like that to you but well thats what it looked like to me.

That's because you skimmed over it. You haven't read any of the cases against DP to claim that he's a target because of his kush flip-flop. How bout you read the fucking game now that we are in mylo hm?

stfu if you read the game you would know that im town and your just wasting time.

I'm inclined to think you are townie. A useless one at that.
If it's that easy, go ahead and read VE's filter and "know that he's town", how bout that? Or is 20 pages just too much?
Also, why are you voting kreb, hm?

because as long as he speaks in riddles my vote will stay on him. But im pretty sure i know what he is going to claim and i think we have a good chance of winning if I'm right.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
October 16 2012 01:21 GMT
#3225
On October 16 2012 09:47 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2012 09:30 iamperfection wrote:
On October 16 2012 09:24 Z-BosoN wrote:
On October 16 2012 09:20 iamperfection wrote:
On October 16 2012 09:17 Z-BosoN wrote:
On October 16 2012 09:04 iamperfection wrote:
On October 16 2012 08:12 Z-BosoN wrote:
I'm concerned about iamperfection. His lack of reading regarding DP raised a flag.
On the kush night he voted me saying:

On October 11 2012 11:05 iamperfection wrote:
dp makes more sense than zboson and i believe kush is town. He panicked the last time he was under pressure of lynch as scum he did not do it here.

## Vote Z-Boson


Which quickly turned into:


On October 13 2012 07:50 iamperfection wrote:
i dont think that was a scum slip darth. Shaopi random entering into the thread like that droping no new information simply strengthens my read on him. He just jumps in here and says herp derp obvious scum is obvious dosent even consider the other possibilities


I have a strong town read on both darthpunk and Z-boson they have been very open with their thought process and explaining why they think what they think they read as town to me.


I really want to lynch shaopi he has done nothing to make me think he is town.

## Vote Shaopi


He reached a conclusion based on an interchange me and DP had, and then decided that we are both town, without adding much. Now he shows signs that he didn't read into me/DP at all. If he didn't read, how did he change conclusions so fast? The same interchange he used to vote on me he used to claim me town, and that strikes me as weird. Want to elaborate?

you idiots are probably both town you guys were arguing basically the same thing against each other. It might not look like that to you but well thats what it looked like to me.

That's because you skimmed over it. You haven't read any of the cases against DP to claim that he's a target because of his kush flip-flop. How bout you read the fucking game now that we are in mylo hm?

stfu if you read the game you would know that im town and your just wasting time.

I'm inclined to think you are townie. A useless one at that.
If it's that easy, go ahead and read VE's filter and "know that he's town", how bout that? Or is 20 pages just too much?
Also, why are you voting kreb, hm?

because as long as he speaks in riddles my vote will stay on him. But im pretty sure i know what he is going to claim and i think we have a good chance of winning if I'm right.

Fair enough.
And what of your town read on VE. I know you don't think it likely because of the day 1 rb thing. Leaving that sole fact aside, what do you think of his filter?

i believe i was railing hard against ve for most of the game the claim and roleblocks is the only reason i think he is town.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
October 16 2012 01:21 GMT
#3226
On October 16 2012 09:39 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2012 09:30 iamperfection wrote:
On October 16 2012 09:24 Z-BosoN wrote:
On October 16 2012 09:20 iamperfection wrote:
On October 16 2012 09:17 Z-BosoN wrote:
On October 16 2012 09:04 iamperfection wrote:
On October 16 2012 08:12 Z-BosoN wrote:
I'm concerned about iamperfection. His lack of reading regarding DP raised a flag.
On the kush night he voted me saying:

On October 11 2012 11:05 iamperfection wrote:
dp makes more sense than zboson and i believe kush is town. He panicked the last time he was under pressure of lynch as scum he did not do it here.

## Vote Z-Boson


Which quickly turned into:


On October 13 2012 07:50 iamperfection wrote:
i dont think that was a scum slip darth. Shaopi random entering into the thread like that droping no new information simply strengthens my read on him. He just jumps in here and says herp derp obvious scum is obvious dosent even consider the other possibilities


I have a strong town read on both darthpunk and Z-boson they have been very open with their thought process and explaining why they think what they think they read as town to me.


I really want to lynch shaopi he has done nothing to make me think he is town.

## Vote Shaopi


He reached a conclusion based on an interchange me and DP had, and then decided that we are both town, without adding much. Now he shows signs that he didn't read into me/DP at all. If he didn't read, how did he change conclusions so fast? The same interchange he used to vote on me he used to claim me town, and that strikes me as weird. Want to elaborate?

you idiots are probably both town you guys were arguing basically the same thing against each other. It might not look like that to you but well thats what it looked like to me.

That's because you skimmed over it. You haven't read any of the cases against DP to claim that he's a target because of his kush flip-flop. How bout you read the fucking game now that we are in mylo hm?

stfu if you read the game you would know that im town and your just wasting time.

I'm inclined to think you are townie. A useless one at that.
If it's that easy, go ahead and read VE's filter and "know that he's town", how bout that? Or is 20 pages just too much?
Also, why are you voting kreb, hm?

because as long as he speaks in riddles my vote will stay on him. But im pretty sure i know what he is going to claim and i think we have a good chance of winning if I'm right.


How about you not talk in riddles and tell us?

no
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
October 16 2012 12:08 GMT
#3272
the more important question everyone should be asking is anyone going to counter claim kreb. BC basically told as lucky citizen was a blue role and he even probably got the role pm from the hosts. So i see no reason not to think kreb is town at this point unless someone has some sort of logic bomb they want to lay on me.

## Unvote
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
October 16 2012 13:22 GMT
#3273
If someone things kreb isn't town raise their hand and tell me why.
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