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BroodKingEXE
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Hapahauli
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Coagulation
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Hapahauli
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kushm4sta
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Promethelax
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On October 07 2012 00:49 BroodKingEXE wrote: + Show Spoiler + On October 06 2012 16:04 Promethelax wrote: + Show Spoiler + Sorry for any crazy in this post I've been out drinking (and more) since my last post in thread, I think I'm sober now but we'll see. Since my first game with Imperfect where we were both scum (XIX) I feel generally decent at reading him. I like the kid a lot which helps, I think. The thing is in this game he hasn't stood out to me, nothing he does takes him to the next leve as either scummy or Towniel. Imperfect is a smart player who knows better than to lurk this much so his actions worry me, I have him in my Null column but I hope he is town as I like him a lot and his analysis always helps me solidify my own understanding of the game. I don;t like the connection theory until on of Risk Iamp flips and I think Risk is much more likely to be scum. hey Austin, bro, care to share your reasons? What about hapa's plays to or detracts from this read? Since Annul was not scum how does your read of Node change? + Show Spoiler + On October 03 2012 06:44 austinmcc wrote: Headed out soon for the evening, may not be back before deadline. Node scum. If node scum, annul and Z-BosoN scum. mkfuba very scummy. annul is odd no matter node's alignment, but I'd be much more convinced of SCUM if node is red. slOosh's return and look at mattchew strike me as not-scum. BC and coag feel kind of distant. BC entered thread with a lot of thoughts yesterday, but mainly just called half the thread scummy (mainly for doing things that were scummy). I wish he'd interacted more with thread towards deadline last night, and I wish he'd have some thoughts on people who aren't scummy and whatnot. Coag I have never played with, and he's kind of in the same boat - wherefore art thou Coageo? I think the meta arguments on Kush are overblown. If he's got a clear town meta and scum meta, and then is clearly told the difference between those two, then the whole thing flies out the window slightly. Unless he's got oodles and oodles of games where he's clearly town or scum, he can just play like he normally would with less f bombs and know he'll look townie on meta. So I don't give them too much credence. that leaves out a whole lotta players. Some, like BKE/Talismania were active early on and then completely absent. And why are you so focused on the Janitor role and Node? Sorry I just picked up on that on this read through of your filter. Since this happened + Show Spoiler + On October 02 2012 09:00 austinmcc wrote: Another interesting mention of Shady: These feel like incredibly bad reasons for a townread. I don't see how NoT coNtINUinG TYpINg LIKe tHIs and throwing a bunch of obscenities around is townie. I don't see Shady pushing other targets. I'm interested in BC's thoughts on Shady. I think Node's thoughts, already given, make Node look scummy. Your only posts have been about Node and Janitors. Why tunnel so much, you are better than this. Oh never mind, I see Hapa is claiming scum with his actions after the day post. ##Vote: hapa. Die Scum, and think this through you could have fought for yourself way to fold up and die (you are as bad as i was last time we played together). Dont post while drunk Austin is dead. How do your reads change? I know, I was catching up on the thread and writing that as I caught up, by the time I had it all written I got to the point where Austin was dead and Hapa was confirmed scum. I should have just deleted it and said Oh never mind, I see Hapa is claiming scum with his actions after the day post. but well, yeah, I wasn't in my right mind. I still think Risk, Matt and VE look really suspicious, Risk most of all. The problem is how much of that is based on the clear don't-give-a-fuckness of their play and this game is hard to give a fuck about because of the foregone conclusion of the lynch two cycles in a row. My theories on why scum are giving up once they have been fingered for death by our dt/medics+ Show Spoiler + I assume that the scum strat is, when caught by the paramedic role, to give up without a fight and ruin the cycle for us. That is the only explanation I can think of for two strong wifom users just giving up immediately when they get called out as scum by the paramedics. We won't get anything from this vote count since everyone will be on Hapa and we won't get anything from this cycle cause hapa will shit up the thread and make discussion hard just like Marv did. @Risk, the kills have come through, where is that case you are no longer too lazy to make? @Hapa, your medic claim is worse than mine was. Which is saying something. @Everyone, I propose we each come forward with a case on not Hapa during this cycle. We have two filters of interactions between scum and unkown players, we have day one voting patterns and we have our own skills. Don't let this cycle go to waste. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
What else can they do but give up?? The paramedic leaves zero doubt. VE where are you? You have been promising a big post for a while now and you have not delivered. I would understand if you were afk due to real life, but you respond to people and post shitty one liners. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On October 07 2012 03:10 kushm4sta wrote: @promethelax What else can they do but give up?? The paramedic leaves zero doubt. Of course it leaves doubt. Both of those breadcrumbs were anything but subtle. If scum saw fuba's (especially after losing their godfather and being paranoid about paramedic), they could have potentially shot him to frame Hapa. The problem is, you still lynch Hapa anyways. There's just too much chance that the paramedic died using his ability rather than being shot. So, there's plausible doubt, but not enough to get out of a lynch. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Step 1: Player List 1. iamperfection 2. Thrawn2112 3. BloodyC0bbler 4. marvellosity 5. mkfuba07 6. ShiaoPi 7. austinmcc 8. Mattchew 9. risk.nuke 10. Coagulation 11. Z-BosoN 12. Risen 13. Keirathi 14. Promethelax 15. VisceraEyes 16. DarthPunk 17. slOosh 18. annul 19. Hapahauli 20. Kreb 21. Mementoss 22. Shady Sands 23. kushm4sta 24. kingjames01 25. BroodKingEXE Step 2: Random.org ![[image loading]](http://s16.postimage.org/5emwmym45/RANDOM_ORG_True_Random_Number_Service.jpg) Step 3: Ignore Random.org Thrawn2112 is scum! | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
On October 07 2012 03:15 Keirathi wrote: Of course it leaves doubt. Both of those breadcrumbs were anything but subtle. If scum saw fuba's (especially after losing their godfather and being paranoid about paramedic), they could have potentially shot him to frame Hapa. The problem is, you still lynch Hapa anyways. There's just too much chance that the paramedic died using his ability rather than being shot. So, there's plausible doubt, but not enough to get out of a lynch. I would argue that the first bread crumb was pretty subtle since no one knew about the role. The second one was more subtle as a claim because the role was known but easier to decipher because the role was known. If my math is right though scum has two kp and the third townie death was Fuba by targeting Hapa. Also if hapa was town this would never be his response. Kier, you aren't dumb (believe me I know, you called my ass out when I was scum) but this post is just introducing doubt where there is none, you don't consider the actions of the players being accused. You have successfully posted while adding nothing to the thread; why did you post this? | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On October 07 2012 03:23 Promethelax wrote: I would argue that the first bread crumb was pretty subtle since no one knew about the role. The second one was more subtle as a claim because the role was known but easier to decipher because the role was known. If my math is right though scum has two kp and the third townie death was Fuba by targeting Hapa. Also if hapa was town this would never be his response. Kier, you aren't dumb (believe me I know, you called my ass out when I was scum) but this post is just introducing doubt where there is none, you don't consider the actions of the players being accused. You have successfully posted while adding nothing to the thread; why did you post this? Your math is clearly wrong. I'm not scum. I'm the medic. Didn't you see my breadcrumb? | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
![[image loading]](http://images.sodahead.com/polls/001283619/_cute_kitten_answer_2_xlarge.jpeg) I may or may not have breadcrumbed this before, but those round eyes make me immune to lynches. I suggest you go and lynch someone else. Like Thrawn2112. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
Coagulation My main issue with coag's play hasn't been his inactivity. It's the fact that when asked for his scumreads, he invariably chooses people for reasons he himself is guilty of. Most recently he threw out myself and BC as scumreads, citing activity. Also I think this is a scumslip. On October 04 2012 00:59 Coagulation wrote: lol butt hurt townie detected. You will be ok big boy walk it off. Discuss. | ||
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Coagulation
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VisceraEyes
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That wasn't a discussion. And I really meant from non-coag peoples. | ||
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Keirathi
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On October 07 2012 03:23 Promethelax wrote: I would argue that the first bread crumb was pretty subtle since no one knew about the role. The second one was more subtle as a claim because the role was known but easier to decipher because the role was known. If my math is right though scum has two kp and the third townie death was Fuba by targeting Hapa. Also if hapa was town this would never be his response. Kier, you aren't dumb (believe me I know, you called my ass out when I was scum) but this post is just introducing doubt where there is none, you don't consider the actions of the players being accused. You have successfully posted while adding nothing to the thread; why did you post this? What math? Where does it say anything about how much KP the mafia has? Or, how many mafia there are? How can you do math when you don't know the variables? About the last part, I was talking purely from a hypothetical standpoint. Hapa is 100% confirmed scum, because his actions aren't consistent with what a framed townie would do. They're what a caught scum does. The fact that you asked him to fight instead of give up, then calling me out for saying the reason that he COULD have fought (even if we wouldn't have believed him) is hypocritical as fuck. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
On October 07 2012 03:34 VisceraEyes wrote: I'd like to begin by stating, for the record, that I'm well aware that I've been less active than normal. For obvious reasons the lynches have been pretty set in stone - but on top of that the steering just went out on my car and I'm looking for a new one. I've been watching the thread though and I'm ready to put this down. Coagulation My main issue with coag's play hasn't been his inactivity. It's the fact that when asked for his scumreads, he invariably chooses people for reasons he himself is guilty of. Most recently he threw out myself and BC as scumreads, citing activity. Also I think this is a scumslip. Discuss. Yeah I agree saying townie like that is a scumslip. I have made it before as scum. Also I suspected coag for other reasons I wrote about previously. ##FOS coag ##FOS risk ##FOS keirathi | ||
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Hapahauli
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Coagulation
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kushm4sta
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Hapa is confirmed scum. This is agreed upon by everyone. Keirathi was saying why it's possible HYPOTHETICALLY that he could be framed. | ||
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