EPTI would say the scum team would invest a lot for this to be true. Memen making a fake claim and scum team wasting a role block.
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I would say the scum team would invest a lot for this to be true. Memen making a fake claim and scum team wasting a role block. | ||
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On October 11 2012 01:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote: eh? You just don't use a rb, then have a scum member claim being hit by it. It adds an air of "confirmation" to a fakeclaim. As for alot to invest? Its day 4 and they just have had 3 red checks on them in a row. They would need something like this to try and do a comeback. they didnt know about the 3rd check. | ||
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On October 11 2012 10:36 Keirathi wrote: My gut tells me that kush is town, but my head tells me that its folly to go against a claimed red check. If he flips town, we'll just have to decide if VE was lying or kush was framed. I don't remember who it was saying that there was no way a framer would frame kush, or that a cop would actually check kush, I completely disagree. Kush is *EXACTLY* the kind of person you use cop checks on. A controversial player who is hard to get a solid read on for the most part. And, by that token, the kind of person you would want to frame as scum because a cop is likely to check them (depending, of course, on how scummy your teammates are and if you need to be framing them instead). i believe kush was the one that said it. | ||
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On October 11 2012 21:53 Mementoss wrote: also if all roles are in this game, like you imply and no one counter claims VE there is no reason to lynch him am I right? ive been thinking on this. I dont think we can assume that private investigator is a town role. I think a mafia role cop is a possibility. I agree with risk.nuke that coagulation is likely town so he is no longer a prime concern of mine. Shaopi however is my primary read. this post bugs the hell out of me. On October 10 2012 14:43 ShiaoPi wrote: @zboson: iamp is just flying under the radar just as he did last game. Its scummy behaviour but it does.not stand out from the rest of the town right now. VEs claim is believable, while there is the possibilty of.a frame I think it to be rather slim. I don't like that matt gets yet another freeride but nobody seems to be willing to vote with me (understandable ofc with the claim) so yeah lets lynch kush! ##unvote ##vote: kush The last part almost sets himself up for the current situation. He acknowledges the fact that a frame is possible yet gives not much of a read on kush. In fact looking through his filter he is extremely wish washy on kush the entire game. Most of the other players have been able to give a more defined read on kush one way or the other. notice how he says the frame is slim not that kush is likely scum. Also he shows apathy. Basically with the last line he explains he wants to vote for someone else but cant because of the claim. so he is giving up all responsibility for this vote due to the claim. His activity has been severally lacking and like i said about it before he blamed it for his loss in his last game. Now im no activity fiend myself but a 3 page filter at this point is really bad. Combine this with the fact he complained about activity as town his last game makes me read him as scum. | ||
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On October 11 2012 22:53 Mementoss wrote: I think VE should be checking a confirmed townie (aka dead) tonight if he is allowed to check the sanity possibility. Iamp makes a good point about the role, but the only thing that irks me is no one counter claimed being roleblocked. Unless scum randomly decided not to use it night 1. ya that would have been silly for night 1 i think. and what do you mean about checking a confirmed townie how can he do that? | ||
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On October 11 2012 22:59 Kreb wrote: Dudedudedudedudedudedude. This totally had me thinking. Look at this: + Show Spoiler + 1. iamperfection 2. 3. BloodyC0bbler 4. 5. 6. ShiaoPi 7. 8. Mattchew 9. risk.nuke 10. Coagulation 11. Z-BosoN 12. 13. Keirathi 14. 15. VisceraEyes 16. 17. slOosh 18. 19. 20. Kreb 21. Mementoss 22. 23. 24. 25. Set-up: And this: + Show Spoiler + Lucky Citizen Vigilante Concerned Citizen Enforcer Hitman Paramedic Private Investigator Medical Examiner Coroner Detective Godfather Paranoid Arsonist Scoreboard And look at VEs claim: Is it possible VE added the prefix Mafia to an existing role (could be both town or mafia)? Theres no Mafia prefix on any role BM ever mentioned. If so, thats a pretty telling slip. well he did say that his role is a combination of a role and regular cop right? | ||
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I want shaopi to get in here. | ||
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On October 12 2012 01:19 VisceraEyes wrote: It's like a GF for someone else guys, you saw Marv's flip, he CHOSE what role to show up as. That's why I'm thinking framer - because someone had to CHOOSE for him to show up as Mafia Coroner. The flip and the facts (my facts anyway :/) don't make any sense otherwise. ...................................................it has be framer from your point of view right? what else could it be... don't understand why YOU would be thinking framer it has to be. | ||
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i have issues. in other news ive been racking my brain about bc. he is third party. He claimed that he faked med protection in order to confuse the mafia and that this was the optimal way to play as a veteran. I disagree his lying puts us in the very situation we are in. We dont know what claims to believe and i dont think it is town mentality. On October 09 2012 06:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Because as a vet you don't claim it as losing your life early in the game. Why? It discourages mafia from shooting you again. If I say "hey my extra night life is gone" they will just shoot me again. Town is unlikely to believe it regardless as the vet role is one mafia love to blend in using. Why does bc give a shit about getting shot again? I didnt know the key to our town victory was for bc to survive. His lying only helps to add confusion and debate whether he is third party or not. I think the most likely conclusion is that bc is he was backed into a corner and claimed the only thing he could. he is 3rd party. | ||
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On October 12 2012 10:54 Coagulation wrote: no shit. to what i have issues or bc? or both. | ||
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I have a strong town read on both darthpunk and Z-boson they have been very open with their thought process and explaining why they think what they think they read as town to me. I really want to lynch shaopi he has done nothing to make me think he is town. ## Vote Shaopi | ||
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On October 13 2012 07:51 VisceraEyes wrote: What do you think of Kreb iamp? I couldn't help but notice that you didn't mention him at all. I haven't really paid attention to him. i can read his filter when i get back from dinner. Although i would like him to explain more on why we need to absolutely lynch you. I see the possibilities concerning you but i dont see how someone could be absolutely sure in regards to your alignment after all that has transpired. | ||
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## Unvote ## Vote BloodyC0bbler | ||
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On October 13 2012 10:24 Kreb wrote: O.o Wait, what? How did BCs lie cause MMToss or VE to claim? And what the shitstorm about it anyway, everyone is (supposedly) playing towards their wincon, Town by rightfully claiming Town, scum by making false claims. Shitstorm? Elaborate please. Ve claimed he was a veteran but first he claimed medic protection. He lied kill him. Its not optimal play no matter what he says it just leads to confusion. Why should i believe anything BloodyC0bbler say in relation to anything. And i didnt say it caused somebody to claim i said it just adds to confusion because his lie causes confusion with relation to other players claims. | ||
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On October 13 2012 10:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I lied about a medic prot. I have already addressed why and near universally its a normal play. Please tell me how not letting the mafia know they shot a vet and make them try and figure out how many protective roles are in the game is at all a bad play? The only people who should honestly care about the # of blues is mafia unless the # gets astronomically high that it just doesn't add up. Then town cares. you should have said nothing if you were town instead playing gambits it just adds to the confusion. Why should i believe you? it seems from my point of view you only cared about your survival. | ||
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On October 13 2012 10:35 Kreb wrote: I must say I dont really see the confusing part. He lied for a reason that to me makes sense from a town perspective. And no, you shouldnt believe him if you're sure hes 3rd party. But I cant discern how you are so sure about that. What if he actually IS veteran? Doesnt all make sense then? of course im not 100% sure stop playing stupid word games. I was under the impression that gambits like this were bad. Why would he need to lie if was town? just so the mafia wont shoot again. give me a break a town member should not worry about whether he lives or dies. | ||
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