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On October 06 2012 10:21 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2012 10:15 iamperfection wrote:On October 06 2012 10:10 Hapahauli wrote:On October 06 2012 10:02 iamperfection wrote:On October 06 2012 10:00 Hapahauli wrote:On October 06 2012 09:53 iamperfection wrote:On October 06 2012 09:51 Hapahauli wrote:On October 06 2012 09:43 iamperfection wrote:On October 06 2012 09:41 Hapahauli wrote:On October 06 2012 09:33 iamperfection wrote:
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here a little homework for you. go read kush's filter for me. gogogogogogo tell me what you think *gasp* you're telling me that kush posted something scummy?! That's so abnormal. Here's the Newbie XXVI obs QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/zDzCCmJq78hdrRead my posts (45-47). Believe it or not, Kush being super scummy is not alignment indicative. He's capable of doing this shit as scum or town. However, he does have a discernable meta-difference from when he's scum or town. He tends to be really angry and whine a lot as scum. He's a lot calmer/"logical" when town. A quick readthrough of his filter makes me lean town on him. When he's pressured in this game, he's much calmer (relatively) than his scum games. Read his filter in Newbie XXVII or GSL II Mini to see how he reacts to pressure as scum. It's possible he could've learned from his mistakes, but for now, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. ok now do coagulation. theres a method...... just do it I'll admit Coag's filter is quite strange. I'm unsure what to think of it. On the one hand, he really hasn't done much of anything, and he's a vet. On the other hand, he's rather indignant - he's demonstrating a lot of the "I don't give a fuck" attitude that you yourself did in Rockband Mini. When you put these two together... I don't know. I'm pretty null on him. I'd have to look more into his meta to give you a definitive response. That's a project for tomorrow if I'm still alive. I'm much more sold on risk. Secondly, I'm STILL waiting for a response here: How is it "weak-ass shit?" It looks pretty damn scummy to me. He doesn't want to build a case before the nightflip... why? In particular, why the nightflip? He didn't simply say he was lazy. He didn't simply say he didn't feel like posting. He didn't want to post until after the nightflip.
Problem is, this makes no sense - what would he gain from posting after the nightflip? Nothing. This isn't a lynch flip, it's an NK flip. It's as if he's suggesting a scum NK will help him make his lynch decision. You've still have not explained why I'm wrong here, or why risk can be considered null after this. i never said you are wrong im just saying i found it strange that the post stuck out to you considering all the other posts that have been made that i would say are very similar. Well I hope atleast agree that risk needs to answer for this. But in additional context, consider that risk hasn't been under much suspicion this game (atleast from what I've read). It's really really odd that he's not scared of getting NK'd in this context. fair enough i wont fight his battle for him. Also im fairly certain he can easily answer the question if he is town. Cool. Since you asked me about kush/Coag, what do you think of 'em? I believe kush to be town his high activity and hes been somewhat pushing discussion. Despite his wifom mind bombs my gut tells me town.Coag is a prime concern of me. On October 06 2012 04:51 Coagulation wrote:
why the fuck am I on the list? Im sorry but I have done nothing to look scummy at all. Maybe im not the most active player here but that sure as fuck doesnt indicate that im scum in any way. I dont like that acted like a cry baby when he was listed on someones scum list. Stuck out to me as weird. Especially in a large game like this why would a town player give a fuck that he was on someones list. It literally boggles the mind that you have a town read on kush despite his WIFOM bombs. and giving a 'gut read' is a weak as shit reason for this. Care to explain why kush would WIFOM bomb me/ derail the thread/ backdown so hard when called out/ have such a small percentage of his filter consist of scum hunting, as town? Care to give a reason for your read other than a 'gut read'?
no i don't. but I'm fairly certain because (redacted because of ongoing game) of what i saw there.
so haha you will just have to wait.
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On October 06 2012 10:30 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2012 10:19 iamperfection wrote:
and as far as im concerned the shit fight hasen't ended it just took a nicer tone. (meaning you havent convinced me yet hapa i know you are pretty good at this game i will probably have an eye on you for the rest of the game) Unfortunately it has to end soon, since I'm off to the bar in about 15 minutes =/ @ DarthRegarding kush: read 'dis pl0x Show nested quote +On October 06 2012 09:41 Hapahauli wrote:On October 06 2012 09:33 iamperfection wrote:On October 06 2012 09:31 Hapahauli wrote:On October 06 2012 09:22 iamperfection wrote:
so whats your goal finding scummy shit hapa or finding scum almost every single person has said scummy "shit" my goal is to find scum and right now i dont know what you are doing. Unless your scum to which i say hello scum i found you. I told you exactly why it's scummy. How is it "weak-ass shit?" It looks pretty damn scummy to me. He doesn't want to build a case before the nightflip... why? In particular, why the nightflip? He didn't simply say he was lazy. He didn't simply say he didn't feel like posting. He didn't want to post until after the nightflip.
Problem is, this makes no sense - what would he gain from posting after the nightflip? Nothing. This isn't a lynch flip, it's an NK flip. It's as if he's suggesting a scum NK will help him make his lynch decision. You have not refuted this. You have not criticized this. Instead you offer weak-ass reasons to defend someone - as if other people's behavior somehow vindicates risk's behavior. So tell me why you think risk is town/not-scummy/whatever? You keep saying that he could be telling the truth, but you've never offered reasoning for it. here a little homework for you. go read kush's filter for me. gogogogogogo tell me what you think *gasp* you're telling me that kush posted something scummy?! That's so abnormal. Here's the Newbie XXVI obs QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/zDzCCmJq78hdrRead my posts (45-47). Believe it or not, Kush being super scummy is not alignment indicative. He's capable of doing this shit as scum or town. However, he does have a discernable meta-difference from when he's scum or town. He tends to be really angry and whine a lot as scum. He's a lot calmer/"logical" when town. A quick readthrough of his filter makes me lean town on him. When he's pressured in this game, he's much calmer (relatively) than his scum games. Read his filter in Newbie XXVII or GSL II Mini to see how he reacts to pressure as scum. It's possible he could've learned from his mistakes, but for now, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. He could be scum, but I think his meta (in particular his anger) suggests otherwise. You were in Newbie XXVIII - doesn't his play look different?
you have to throw the anger out now he is well aware of it now.
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On October 06 2012 09:59 kushm4sta wrote:
oh just the fbi just took over this investigation
speaking of kush wtf are you talking about?
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On October 06 2012 10:41 Hapahauli wrote:EBWOP: GAH formatting... @ AustinWhere did you go? You went from dead sure that I/Node was scum, to actually caring about my opinion: Show nested quote +Eh, just follow BC throughout thread. He's a good player to give a full report on when you've caught up. mkfuba is another one to watch throughout.
Also tell me how you liked my play. wut?
i think he is asking what you think of those players as well as what you think of austin himself.
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On October 06 2012 12:07 Coagulation wrote:
anyone else see a scummy post above me?
why because the post says absolutely nothing?
yes i don't like it either.
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On October 06 2012 12:18 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2012 12:09 iamperfection wrote:On October 06 2012 12:07 Coagulation wrote:
anyone else see a scummy post above me? why because the post says absolutely nothing? yes i don't like it either. LoL. People saying nothing/ sheeping cases. Welcome to half the players in this game. Care to provide a reason for your town read on Kush? or are you just going to ignore me?
yes i will. i have very good reason if you were paying attention i said my view hinges on the fact of my observation (redacted because of ongoing game). I dont know how much clearer i can be because of that so if you have patience i will be clear.
Or you can continue to waste time and not hunt scum choice is your.
also i dont really care what you think. i don't even care if i contradict myself i will say what i want if i think someone might be scum.
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On October 06 2012 12:45 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2012 12:23 iamperfection wrote:On October 06 2012 12:18 DarthPunk wrote:On October 06 2012 12:09 iamperfection wrote:On October 06 2012 12:07 Coagulation wrote:
anyone else see a scummy post above me? why because the post says absolutely nothing? yes i don't like it either. LoL. People saying nothing/ sheeping cases. Welcome to half the players in this game. Care to provide a reason for your town read on Kush? or are you just going to ignore me? yes i will. i have very good reason if you were paying attention i said my view hinges on the fact of my observation (redacted because of ongoing game). I dont know how much clearer i can be because of that so if you have patience i will be clear. Or you can continue to waste time and not hunt scum choice is your. also i dont really care what you think. i don't even care if i contradict myself i will say what i want if i think someone might be scum. Wow, Way to promote an anti town atmosphere. I completely disagree with the fact that you do not have to give more reasoning than a 'gut read' which by definition is unclear. I get it. You do not give a fuck about anyone and will do what you want. Fine. But don;t expect people to actually listen to you if you won't do us the courtesy of being clear and transparent about stuff like Why you give one of the scummiest players in the game a town read. You know what? FoS: Iamperfection Clearly anti town attitude. Difficult and refusal to be transparent.
lol
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On October 06 2012 12:57 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2012 12:55 austinmcc wrote:
Any strong reads I have are still the same except:
Upon rereading, Z-BosoN asked a question about Coag, which Node answered. Z-BosoN referenced Node hours after that, but no longer convinced they HAVE to be same alignment, because Z-BosoN could remember node's post because it was a direct answer to Z-BosoN's question.
BC this game feels entirely different from BC in LVII. That doesn't mean he's scum BC, I haven't nailed done exactly what I think he is, but marv may have been honest when naming BC most likely to be 3P. Also, remember the claimed protect. Watch medic numbers and scum kill numbers to see whether it was likely he actually got protected or was just covering being bulletproof/having an extra night life.
kush has actively shat up the thread for a lot of this game. The meta argument for him being town was already a little weak because it had been pointed out exactly what made him look townie/scummy. The argument is FURTHER weakened by the fact that marv was scum, and could have partially coached kush as to "here's how you play disruptive and still look like your town meta." Iamperfection. Read this please. Digest it. and then realise that your unexplained town read on Kush is bullshit. as is getting all riled up over being asked to explain it.
i think ive told you twice now i cant talk about because of an ongoing game. o nope this is the third time. also you shouldn't worry about kush even if I'm wrong he will slip. Don't understand why your getting so worked up about this.
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um i think its an obvious one
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On October 06 2012 11:48 mkfuba07 wrote:
Argh, stayed up all night watching GSTL and then ended up sleeping most of the day away. A lot of people have been mentioned who I'm not really prepared to comment on right now. But my read on kush has been teetering back and forth over the course of the game, and the most recent interactions with DP have me leaning scummy for the reasons DP mentioned. I'll probably continue teetering regarding him, but that's where I stand atm.
I'm heading out for a night at the bars now as well. I also have a party to attend a few hours away tomorrow, so my activity will likely be less than it was D2. I'll bring my laptop, but since it's a party, I'll probably be expected to socialize and will only be able to post infrequently and for a few hours later in the day.
Finally, hi Hapa! I really hope you're actually town and Node was just being Node... I'll probably be destroyed if I have to face you as mafia.
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i think we should let him update the voting thread with a divider just for clarity sake
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told you that marv was crafty. node was scum all along.
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On October 07 2012 04:59 kushm4sta wrote:
@prome You are a null read for me but you make good cases.
The only thing I sheeped you on was risk because you made a good case and he was already looking scummy to me,
I thought iamp perfect might be scum but I looked at his filter and I changed my mind.
what made you change your mind?
Also now that my victory is complete in the gsl mini mafia i can reveal why i can reveal more why i think kush is town. Or to put in better terms why we dont have to worry about kush. So basically we were scum together and kush slipped again as mafia ( for anyone keeping count this is probably about his 15th slip or so) and then he went back to our qt and said "fucked this up royally... i learned as scum sometimes the best most is to pretend you are afk " so i believe his large amount of activity in this game tells me he is town.
now some of you are probably thinking "but iamperfection now that you have said this he is just going to keep up his activity level"
first of all don't question the perfect one.
second of all thats what so brilliant about my lax attitude towards kush if he is scum he will slip. Period. its a fact.
for hapas eyes only
+ Show Spoiler +nub caught you in two posts rofl lololololoololololololol.
give me high five in thread everyone will think this staged anyways but ill know and that is all that matters.
If you are not hapa and reading this how dare you i will never trust you again.
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On October 08 2012 02:21 Promethelax wrote:
hey, open question to anyone who is town. Look at the day posts, look at the kill flavours. What do you notice? After you figure it out we should talk about this. Seriously.
open question to Kush: why are you trying now when yo never have before? What happened to make you make cases?
are you talking about the dead and killed difference?
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On October 02 2012 12:21 BlackMamba24 wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count
Shady Sands (7): Marvellosity, Coagulation, kushm4sta, Risen, iamperfection, Mementoss, risk.nuke, austinmcc, ShiaoPi, kushm4sta, BroodKingEXE, Node, kingjames01
kingjames01 (2): keirathi, mkfuba07, kreb, marvellosity, VisceraEyes, Mattchew, kushm4sta, austinmcc, Z-Boson
kushm4sta (1): Node, Mementoss, annul
VisceraEyes (1): Talismania, Z-Boson
Mementoss (0): kingjames01
austinmcc (3): kreb, mkfuba07, BloodyC0bbler
risk.nuke (1): Sharrant
Node (7): Marvellosity, VisceraEyes, austinmcc, kushm4sta, Z-Boson, iamperfection, BroodKingEXE, kingjames01
The following players have not voted: AdmiralAardvark, SlOosh, Shady Sands,
Friendly reminder to use the Voting Thread to have your vote counted.
It's a little under 1 hour till deadline.
Time for some speculation.
As we know are good friend hapa is about to flip scum. Which of course means node was scum.
Now we know people can have irl reasons for replacing but judging by the last post of node im more inclined to believe it was something more of a rage quit. I think this was caused by him seeing mafia members being involved with the sudden wagon that happened on day 1. I got a sense of frustration and the fact that he quit despite being in arguably a good position after the marv flip i think their may have been some infighting within the mafia that caused him to get fed up.
I think their is probably another scum on the node wagon and it brings me back to ViceraEyes
On October 04 2012 05:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
Node is almost certainly not the scum. There was a very real possibility that he would have been lynched and annul was right, a bus in that situation would have been pretty suboptimal.
Marv is definitely the scums. Whoever he never mentions in the game I'd probably have a hard look at. Otherwise I haven't reread the game (as I said I would :<) so I'm crippled until I do.
BC what do you think of Mattchew?
I stated earlier that i thought it was bad reasoning to suspect that a marv flip would mean that node isn't scum> I also think VE of all people should know this. From my observations of marvs play through games he states the truth a lot as both scum and town. Their is really no differences i can see between tone and i have seen him bus before. I think Ve used this bad reasoning to try and get the attention of his scum buddy.
VE has not been exhausting like he said he was going to be.
VE has not been as active as i know he can be.
VE will be the person i will be pushing to lynch during the next cycle if i'm alive.
also ve can you please explain what you meant with this post.
On October 06 2012 01:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Obligatory night-post. Twilight thoughts imminent.
I took this to mean that you were going to post before the end of the night some big post. You did not. Did i read this post wrong?
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Why would we want to lynch the sk before scum? Wouldn't it be better to lynch scum first. Sk could hit mafia right?
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