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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 10 2012 16:21 GMT
#2141
Kush just soft-defended 'toss against nothing. I'm starting to see the merits of a Mementoss lynch to be frank.

I could lynch ZBos as well, but honestly I can see him being as bad as he's being as town. Leaning scum.

Mattchew has had this air of "I don't give a fuck about playing properly" for pretty much as long as I can remember (which isn't long, given my vices.) You know and I know that he's capable of more - but he doesn't care to show it, and I think of the people you listed he's most likely to be town. However, that's based solely on meta so it isn't worth much.

As of right now I prefer a ZBos follow-up.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
October 10 2012 16:23 GMT
#2142
I'm hard defending toss lol. I don't see how it's even possible he is scum after that claim.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 10 2012 16:24 GMT
#2143
On October 11 2012 01:20 kushm4sta wrote:
@ VE and BC it's an honest question... how can scum make up a claim like that about BC and have it be corroborated by BCs story... it doesn't make sense to me that he isn't town.


If he's scum then he knows (presumably) that he shot BC. He can also postulate that, given a dead watcher, no other watcher is going to counterclaim him. He also knows the name of the watcher role as it has flipped.

Anyone can say anything if they surround it with enough truth.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
October 10 2012 16:27 GMT
#2144
On October 11 2012 01:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 01:20 kushm4sta wrote:
@ VE and BC it's an honest question... how can scum make up a claim like that about BC and have it be corroborated by BCs story... it doesn't make sense to me that he isn't town.


If he's scum then he knows (presumably) that he shot BC. He can also postulate that, given a dead watcher, no other watcher is going to counterclaim him. He also knows the name of the watcher role as it has flipped.

Anyone can say anything if they surround it with enough truth.


Also given that no medic had come forward saying they had defended me day 1, it was likely that I survived the nk due to my own role, and not based on a medic.

His reasoning for "hiding" it was also poor. He wanted to get as many free watches off as possible yet also wanted me lynched for day 4. He didn't opt to come out and off me at the beginning of the day making sure he got a third check, he outed himself in a way that he would either die or be rb'd. He then sheeped me at the start of the day on who I wanted to vote for when he believed I was third party and not town -_-
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 10 2012 16:35 GMT
#2145
What sucks about it is that scum can just leave him alive and kill ME tonight, setting town up for a mislynch if he IS town. X(

BC your play doesn't match what I see optimal as veteran play. You went AFK/passive early on when you should have been trying to get scum to shoot you.

Before you say it, yes I'm aware that whatever you did "worked" because you got shot. I'm just saying in general that you seemed...too passive to be Veteran. Explain.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
October 10 2012 16:36 GMT
#2146
yeah I was definitely wrong to give him a free town pass.

also don't get caught up too much in my reaction as part of your case because I'm going to flip town. just a heads up
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
October 10 2012 16:36 GMT
#2147
but if we believe that mementoss is lying that would suggest that the scum role blocked one of their own correct. No one else made a claim of rb right?

I would say the scum team would invest a lot for this to be true. Memen making a fake claim and scum team wasting a role block.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 10 2012 16:38 GMT
#2148
On October 11 2012 01:36 kushm4sta wrote:
yeah I was definitely wrong to give him a free town pass.

also don't get caught up too much in my reaction as part of your case because I'm going to flip town. just a heads up


Yeah thanks for reminding me. I get ahead of myself sometimes.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
October 10 2012 16:42 GMT
#2149
On October 11 2012 01:36 iamperfection wrote:
but if we believe that mementoss is lying that would suggest that the scum role blocked one of their own correct. No one else made a claim of rb right?

I would say the scum team would invest a lot for this to be true. Memen making a fake claim and scum team wasting a role block.


eh? You just don't use a rb, then have a scum member claim being hit by it. It adds an air of "confirmation" to a fakeclaim. As for alot to invest? Its day 4 and they just have had 3 red checks on them in a row. They would need something like this to try and do a comeback.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 10 2012 16:43 GMT
#2150
If you're scum Kush, I thank you for actually playing the game instead of giving up and shitting up the thread like Marv and Hapa. Seriously, this is how scum are SUPPOSED to act when faced with seemingly insurmountable odds against living.

Same if you're town. It would be so easy for you to give up and AFK. So kudos to you for trying dude, I'm serious.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
October 10 2012 16:43 GMT
#2151
On October 11 2012 01:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 01:36 iamperfection wrote:
but if we believe that mementoss is lying that would suggest that the scum role blocked one of their own correct. No one else made a claim of rb right?

I would say the scum team would invest a lot for this to be true. Memen making a fake claim and scum team wasting a role block.


eh? You just don't use a rb, then have a scum member claim being hit by it. It adds an air of "confirmation" to a fakeclaim. As for alot to invest? Its day 4 and they just have had 3 red checks on them in a row. They would need something like this to try and do a comeback.

they didnt know about the 3rd check.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
October 10 2012 16:47 GMT
#2152
On October 11 2012 01:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
What sucks about it is that scum can just leave him alive and kill ME tonight, setting town up for a mislynch if he IS town. X(

BC your play doesn't match what I see optimal as veteran play. You went AFK/passive early on when you should have been trying to get scum to shoot you.

Before you say it, yes I'm aware that whatever you did "worked" because you got shot. I'm just saying in general that you seemed...too passive to be Veteran. Explain.


Day 1 I didn't even know the game started for the first entire day, came home from work into the second day of it and saw my role pm. I then caught up on the thread and began posting. You are right in that I was more passive for day 1, but a ton of people were. The time I was around I attempted to move the lynch off of shady and kingjames while proposing new lynch prospects. Given that at the time of my posting people were slowly peeling from both kj and shady I thought I had done well then had do RL stuff and head back to work. The points I have been around I have made sure to be as productive as I can as well, my life is far busier then it used to be. It obviously makes me look off given my history as a player but I have done what I could. My play day 1 was suboptimal given my role, yet Scum still shot me, likely fearing what I can do as an active poster.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 10 2012 16:49 GMT
#2153
On October 02 2012 13:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
I really like austin all of a sudden.

And really dislike Mattchew.

It's going to be an eventful night guys. Sleep tight.


This could be why I was roleblocked N1. I hardcrumbed Role which itself wouldn't really be enough unless scum were afraid I'd use whatever it is on either austin or Mattchew.

Just throwing that out there. Mattchew looks worse because of this imo.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
October 10 2012 16:50 GMT
#2154
On October 11 2012 01:43 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 01:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On October 11 2012 01:36 iamperfection wrote:
but if we believe that mementoss is lying that would suggest that the scum role blocked one of their own correct. No one else made a claim of rb right?

I would say the scum team would invest a lot for this to be true. Memen making a fake claim and scum team wasting a role block.


eh? You just don't use a rb, then have a scum member claim being hit by it. It adds an air of "confirmation" to a fakeclaim. As for alot to invest? Its day 4 and they just have had 3 red checks on them in a row. They would need something like this to try and do a comeback.

they didnt know about the 3rd check.


True. However given the progression of the game thus far who's been harassed non stop and likely to have been up for a lynch? People have been pushing at kush every day, and each day a confirmed red took precidense. The only person they could hope to make a claim in any regards over and attempt to push to have killed is me given the information they would have and what at least two of them pushed as an idea in thread.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 10 2012 16:50 GMT
#2155
On October 11 2012 01:47 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 01:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
What sucks about it is that scum can just leave him alive and kill ME tonight, setting town up for a mislynch if he IS town. X(

BC your play doesn't match what I see optimal as veteran play. You went AFK/passive early on when you should have been trying to get scum to shoot you.

Before you say it, yes I'm aware that whatever you did "worked" because you got shot. I'm just saying in general that you seemed...too passive to be Veteran. Explain.


Day 1 I didn't even know the game started for the first entire day, came home from work into the second day of it and saw my role pm. I then caught up on the thread and began posting. You are right in that I was more passive for day 1, but a ton of people were. The time I was around I attempted to move the lynch off of shady and kingjames while proposing new lynch prospects. Given that at the time of my posting people were slowly peeling from both kj and shady I thought I had done well then had do RL stuff and head back to work. The points I have been around I have made sure to be as productive as I can as well, my life is far busier then it used to be. It obviously makes me look off given my history as a player but I have done what I could. My play day 1 was suboptimal given my role, yet Scum still shot me, likely fearing what I can do as an active poster.


Fair enough. Mementoss gets the same question, but somehow I think he's busy shooting hoops somewhere else on the forum. -.-
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 10 2012 16:54 GMT
#2156
On October 11 2012 01:50 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 01:43 iamperfection wrote:
On October 11 2012 01:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On October 11 2012 01:36 iamperfection wrote:
but if we believe that mementoss is lying that would suggest that the scum role blocked one of their own correct. No one else made a claim of rb right?

I would say the scum team would invest a lot for this to be true. Memen making a fake claim and scum team wasting a role block.


eh? You just don't use a rb, then have a scum member claim being hit by it. It adds an air of "confirmation" to a fakeclaim. As for alot to invest? Its day 4 and they just have had 3 red checks on them in a row. They would need something like this to try and do a comeback.

they didnt know about the 3rd check.


True. However given the progression of the game thus far who's been harassed non stop and likely to have been up for a lynch? People have been pushing at kush every day, and each day a confirmed red took precidense. The only person they could hope to make a claim in any regards over and attempt to push to have killed is me given the information they would have and what at least two of them pushed as an idea in thread.


The only problem with the bolded is the fact that both scum you're referencing were OUTTED, FLAILING scum when they mentioned it. It's not like they didn't know they were going to die and tried to push the idea as a serious one, they were scum saying whatever the fuck for whatever reason.

Just saying - that's the second time (third?) that you've mentioned how two scum have pushed this idea of BC=3rd when that's not really relevant given the circumstances.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 10 2012 16:55 GMT
#2157
The last line of your post should be bolded...where you say "2 scum have pushed the idea in-thread". -.-

It's 1pm and early for me.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
BlackMamba24
Profile Joined August 2012
United States277 Posts
October 10 2012 17:16 GMT
#2158
Do not talk about this game in other games, especially not when you are discussing the play of other people who are still alive. I shouldn't need to remind anyone of this...
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
October 10 2012 17:17 GMT
#2159
I share most of your feelings Vicera. Though I'm still not sure how I want to follow up. I'm almost 100% Mattchew is scum on meta. His play seems more inline with his scummeta. Although I've never seen it this bad before I read it as his normal scumplay but further demotivated because he feels they are getting the shaft from blues.

There are more players that should flip red then what is realistic to assume exist.

Z-Boz and Sloosh have both been scummy. You mention mementoss and lets not forget about lurker Shiaopi.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
BlackMamba24
Profile Joined August 2012
United States277 Posts
October 10 2012 17:24 GMT
#2160
Day 4 Vote Count

BloodyC0bbler (0): slOosh

kushm4sta (13): VisceraEyes, Coagulation, risk.nuke, Keirathi, Mementoss, DarthPunk, iamperfection, Z-BosoN, slOosh, ShiaoPi, Kreb, Mattchew, BloodyC0bbler

Mattchew (0): ShiaoPi

slOosh (0): Keirathi, BloodyC0bbler, Mementoss

VisceraEyes (0): Kreb, kushm4sta
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