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Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 10 2012 06:39 GMT
#2081
Also, I'd like to hear some thoughts on DP, concerning my case on him. His play this game seems a bit off, compared to the one we just came off of.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 10 2012 06:40 GMT
#2082
On October 10 2012 15:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
ZBos what did you hope to accomplish with your switch to Coag D1?

Not lynch node. I didn't think the wagon was justified, I felt like I was stupidly sheeping and I didn't want to switch to SS because I thought he was town.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 10 2012 06:40 GMT
#2083
On October 10 2012 15:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
ZBos what did you hope to accomplish with your switch to Coag D1?

if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 10 2012 06:41 GMT
#2084
On October 10 2012 15:40 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 15:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
ZBos what did you hope to accomplish with your switch to Coag D1?

Not lynch node. I didn't think the wagon was justified, I felt like I was stupidly sheeping and I didn't want to switch to SS because I thought he was town.


Why did you "stupidly sheep" in the first place? If it's such an aberrant playstyle to you, why did you jump onboard in the first place?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 10 2012 06:43 GMT
#2085
On October 10 2012 15:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 15:40 Z-BosoN wrote:
On October 10 2012 15:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
ZBos what did you hope to accomplish with your switch to Coag D1?

Not lynch node. I didn't think the wagon was justified, I felt like I was stupidly sheeping and I didn't want to switch to SS because I thought he was town.


Why did you "stupidly sheep" in the first place? If it's such an aberrant playstyle to you, why did you jump onboard in the first place?

tbh because I wasn't really giving this game any time at all, and automatically played passively. I was giving the other game much more attention. Now that game is over and I'm participating much more, see
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 10 2012 06:46 GMT
#2086
^ on DP?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 10 2012 06:47 GMT
#2087
So you took it upon yourself to buck the lynch off of scum (who you had a town read on in spite of "not giving this game any time at all") onto Coag (someone with zero votes) to save Shady (who you had a town read on in spite of "not giving this game any time at all"). Am I getting that right?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 10 2012 06:56 GMT
#2088
Yep. Node agreed with my analysis on shady sands despite all hammerings on me & shady. I joined his wagon because at first it seemed like a good alternative to SS. After I jumped I realized how badly I was playing and decided to change that. Read Node's filter, took him as town, and left his wagon.
Take the leap of faith that this is true :/
If I was scum it'd be stupid to join the wagon in the first place. Are you having issues with the time of when I left his wagon? I don't remember if it actually made a difference.
I've also been playing a lot differently since day1, especially now, where I've actually read the entire game.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 10 2012 06:56 GMT
#2089
Also my town read of shady was based off of one post, which doesn't require much reading.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 10 2012 07:00 GMT
#2090
The votes were tied 7 and 7 I think and your hop ensured the lynch of your ACTUAL town read (Shady) instead of Node, someone who "seemed like a good alternative to SS"

So yeah, it kinda made a difference.

And I wouldn't go around yelling about how you ruined town's chance on D1 of lynching scum "based off of one post". People might get the wrong idea.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 10 2012 07:06 GMT
#2091
It was, though. After playing a few games with shady, it's very clear when he's town. I basically gauge it by how much I want to punch him. His first "omg omg this was my plan all along" told me that he's just being retarded. His games as scum have him much more collected.
Also, I'm going to check this, because I remember some shenanigan from annul as well. It really has to be some shitty luck for me to end up being the main unvote to not lynch a confirmed scum.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 10 2012 07:13 GMT
#2092
O come the fuck on. The vote was 12 shady 5 node at the end.
Just because I was the first to unvote Node doesn't mean shit. Why the hell would I do that 40-50 minutes before the actual lynch time if my true goal was to save Node?
If you wanna use that as an argument, include the other 5 (?) people who changed their vote.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 10 2012 07:15 GMT
#2093
The point is that you jumped off of Node resulting in the lynch of your townread. He might have been lynched anyway based on the voting rules, but a vote for Node put Shady one step closer to safety rather than damning him inexorably to the noose. *shrug*

kushm4sta, ZBoson

I know I said the focus on the BC thing was a bad idea, but I've been thinking about it and the whole Mementoss/BC thing is...strange. On the one hand I can't understand Mementoss' assumption that BC is third party - I mean, we don't know if medic saves are informed (to my knowledge) so why would Mementoss assume BC was lying about thinking he was medic saved. On the other hand, I can't understand BC's assumption that Mementoss is scum based on a role not functioning the way he's used to in a closed setup game where the roles are obviously fucked with.

That's everyone's homework assignment for tomorrow (or today if your brain can take it). Go back over Mementoss and BC's filters. See if their play matches up with the claims. Is passive-ass BC really a veteran? Is Mementoss convenient claim of a flipped role just a bit TOO convenient? The truth is in this thread.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 10 2012 07:19 GMT
#2094
The other people who switched did so because Shady came back last minute which has historically been a scum-tell. Yours was not - your vote went to Coag, someone who was NOT going to be lynched. This looks worse than people switching back to Shady based on reasoning (he came back last minute). Because their intent was to lynch scum. Your intent was, literally, to not vote for either of the main candidates.

There's a world of difference. The fact that you're not even acknowledging that fact is pretty scummy.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 10 2012 07:21 GMT
#2095
On October 10 2012 16:13 Z-BosoN wrote:
O come the fuck on. The vote was 12 shady 5 node at the end.
Just because I was the first to unvote Node doesn't mean shit. Why the hell would I do that 40-50 minutes before the actual lynch time if my true goal was to save Node?
If you wanna use that as an argument, include the other 5 (?) people who changed their vote.


But you literally JUST SAID that was was your true goal. So was that now not your true goal?

What are you talking about sir?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 10 2012 07:23 GMT
#2096
Ah, whatever. Hope someone who can actually think sees how ridiculous that would have been for me as scum.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 10 2012 07:24 GMT
#2097
It was my true goal, as townie.
It wasn't my true goal, were I scum, as that would be stupid.
clear difference, no?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 10 2012 07:24 GMT
#2098
Nonono you can't fucking try and discredit and dismiss me because I'm poking holes in your reasoning. I'm sitting here RACKING MY BRAIN trying to understand what you're saying.

So were you trying to save Node or not? You just said that was the reason for your switch. Why did you switch if not to save Node?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 10 2012 07:31 GMT
#2099
I guess that's a yes...that you were trying to save Node.

And my point is that you wanted to save Node by killing a townie. Your unvote, WHENEVER it was timed, ensured the lynch of someone you had a town-read on. Verily, someone who you're claiming is THE REASON you had a town-read on Node in the first place. Can you see the logic breakdown? Can you see how in telling me all of this you've basically claimed scum to me and anyone paying any kind of tertiary attention?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 10 2012 07:36 GMT
#2100
Fuck man, it's 4 am here... I'm trying to dismiss you so I can sleep
Let me try harder, then, since it seems like you actually care about what I have to say

I did not want Node to die to this wagon. I thought it was unjustified. I decided this after I put my vote on Node and ever since I've been playing a lot differently. I also did not want to kill shady. Therefore, I changed to someone else.

What I said later was:
If I were scum (ok assume I'm scum) and I my unvoting was actually an attempt to save Node, why the HELL would I have done that 40-50 min prior to the lynch? I feel that this wouldn't accomplish shit, and would probably throw my ass on the line (as is what's happening). I'm arguing that it would be completely ridiculous for me, as scum, to want to save Node in such a manner. Why? Because I'd be sticking my neck out and for what? No guarantees?
I'd most likely wait until actual lynch time to see if my switching of votes would make a difference.

I'm add something new here.

YOU are probably thinking that I unvoted because I realized that Node was actually maybe gonna get lynched for real. My post in the thread came 9 minutes after the 7/7 post on the vote thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=371260&currentpage=29#573

So for this theory to be true, I've had to instantly refresh the voting thread, quickly as hell change my mind, write a post and 9 minutes later, BAM, post that I had changed my mind.

That supports the fact that I got unlucky right? Because 9 minutes to make the post I made and to make a decision of this caliber, AND assuming I read the vote tally right after it came off is a bit too much, no?

Hopefully that makes my claim more believable
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