EPTBut I think that we can get this one guys
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
But I think that we can get this one guys | ||
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Stutters695
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
I don't think that you could escape a lynch tomorrow ^^ | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=370487¤tpage=31#603 I'm coming for you d3, and I will see to that http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=16429599 I don't want to spend the rest of d3 looking for a false read (made right after during night 2 post) Once I was already done shot in night 1, I was pretty much set for the rest of the game, because scum wouldn't risk shotting a SK. Also here's my if I die post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=370487¤tpage=23#453 When I am under threat of death I usually leave off much much more, refer to LVII what I did when I pretty much knew I was going to die. Of course, scum, I can still be SK . . . pshtt.. town... over here.... + Show Spoiler + Don't say this out loud, but don't you think I am scumhunting way too much more than I would need to if I am a SK? Also, can you please think a little bit and realize that it was completely retarded for me to have to claim? | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
But I think that 2 blues is pretty standard So if we have a counterclaim, it's either you or the counterclaimer so we win cause we can afford one mislynch. If there is no counterclaim, it's between debears and SS. Same, we win at the end. | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
Claiming cop, without thinking too much about it, seems stupid as framer/godfather (and the odds are high these are the last roles remaining), as there are high odds there is a real one. GG debears! I wish I had been more insistent on you. | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
Anyways, forgot about this one. From my POV n1, me and DP were the most likely hit targets. This is me trying to bait it towards me: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=445&topic_id=370487 It makes more sense than for scum to have shot DP twice. Scum prob thought the medic was saving me. My view on Djodref's claim is, unless we get to mylo where things get nasty, we should encounter it as legit. Shady Sands, in my eyes, is the only one who has a fair chance of being scum. We lynch debears, we lynch SS, we should be fine. Please don't be retarded and still find me scum after this. DP had a town meta read on me, and he's played in all my games. Much more trustworthy than a debears "lololol scum ZB posts in red!1" one. Now that the pressure is off, read my filter carefully and try to think why in the godamn hell would I take so muhc trouble to switch between townies, when it's 100 times easier (and safer) for me to stick with one. Also read my cases and tell me how in a million years they can even be compared to the ones on debears. Also, my claim makes a lot of sense. It's why I've been more aggressive and confident this game. There's this one other post I recall where I stated I had my own reasons for going after debears, but I can't find it, don't remember what to control+F and I don't think it's worth the trouble. My original plan was to claim having been shot n1 and using that as an argument to go full throttle against debears, whom I've been tunneling during day 1, but then I had decided this was a pretty bad argument and would lose my ticket to not being nk (I was thinking that there could be SK). Anyways, we should be good now. If debears or shady sands is medic, claim and seal the game 100%. Otherwise, just stick with debears and we should be fine. | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
If there were two goons, then a cop role would be very useful. 2/3 chance of getting it right when checking scum is pretty good. However what also makes sense is there being 3 goons, and that would make it safer to claim cop. Cop + medic + veteran vs two goons and a godfather/framer seems a bit more imba than medic + veteran vs. three goons. However, we still have three lynches till defeat. debears -> shady -> Djodref should seal us the game. I cannot for the life of me view SDM and RSC as scum right now. If one of you is, well, well played, win deserved. Now all it takes is for town to put on reality goggles, realize why it is dumb for me to be scum, and seal the deal. | ||
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Shady Sands
United States4021 Posts
On October 06 2012 07:15 Z-BosoN wrote: However, we still have three lynches till defeat. debears -> shady -> Djodref should seal us the game. I cannot for the life of me view SDM and RSC as scum right now. If one of you is, well, well played, win deserved. Now all it takes is for town to put on reality goggles, realize why it is dumb for me to be scum, and seal the deal. Why are you pushing for lynch trains already when no one on your list has flipped yet? All that does is give scum an easy way to NK people who everyone thinks is confirmed townie to setup the best LYLO situation possible. On the RCs: A cop RC is barely worth more than a Mason/Confirmed Townie RC at this point, since it's likely the last remaining scum is GF/Framer. Likewise, a vet RC is essentially a null tell, because if there is a GF/Framer, there is no reliable way to check ZB. (If there is a GF, Z-Boson might be a false negative; if there is a Framer, ZB might be a false positive). What seals the deal in terms of ZB's further scumminess is how he thinks Debears and or me are the last medic, and are inviting us to claim. That just smells to me like a blue-sniping attempt. Remember at this point scum have to kill the medic fast, or else the game is over for them. Finally, I am deeply dissatisfied with a no-lynch. In a situation where the last scum is trying to stay hidden, no-lynching is exactly what they want since they never have to "put their money where their mouth is" in terms of losing towncred by pushing a mislynch. I am going to repeat this to everyone: at this point I do not see how you can a) assign any weight to ZB's vet claim or b) view the rest of his filter as anything but scum. ##Vote Z-Boson | ||
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Shady Sands
United States4021 Posts
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
On October 06 2012 07:49 Shady Sands wrote: Why are you pushing for lynch trains already when no one on your list has flipped yet? All that does is give scum an easy way to NK people who everyone thinks is confirmed townie to setup the best LYLO situation possible. Conversely, this lynch train would make sense if someone in this list has flipped? What the hell does this mean. On the RCs: A cop RC is barely worth more than a Mason/Confirmed Townie RC at this point, since it's likely the last remaining scum is GF/Framer. Except that he has been crumbing since day 1. The very least it tells us is he was planning to crumb cop. Likewise, a vet RC is essentially a null tell, because if there is a GF/Framer, there is no reliable way to check ZB. (If there is a GF, Z-Boson might be a false negative; if there is a Framer, ZB might be a false positive). wtf are you saying, do I have STD's? What seals the deal in terms of ZB's further scumminess is how he thinks Debears and or me are the last medic, and are inviting us to claim. That just smells to me like a blue-sniping attempt. I should be scared here, as you argue as well as a dog. They have good sense of smell. I want one of you to claim because from my POV that will end the game. Of course I've explained this, but of course you didn't and won't read. Remember at this point scum have to kill the medic fast, or else the game is over for them. Hardly. Medic will make their life tougher, it's not like they have to kill them Finally, I am deeply dissatisfied with a no-lynch. In a situation where the last scum is trying to stay hidden, no-lynching is exactly what they want since they never have to "put their money where their mouth is" in terms of losing towncred by pushing a mislynch. Yea, and you helped this no-lynch happen by being a fucktard and deliberately going awol I am going to repeat this to everyone: at this point I do not see how you can a) assign any weight to ZB's vet claim or b) view the rest of his filter as anything but scum. ##Vote Z-Boson And this tells you why people hate playing with him, and is generally lynched day one. His case is: 1) I don't believe ZB's vet claim (even though he doesn't address my crumbs as to why they would come from scum rather than me as veteran). 2) Everything else in his filter is scum(i.e. lololol I don't read and I'm too lazy to make a decent case and I am not going to do that because I gotta go!!) | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On October 06 2012 06:52 Z-BosoN wrote: Oh lol. Thought there was. Anyways, forgot about this one. From my POV n1, me and DP were the most likely hit targets. This is me trying to bait it towards me: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=445&topic_id=370487 It makes more sense than for scum to have shot DP twice. Scum prob thought the medic was saving me. My view on Djodref's claim is, unless we get to mylo where things get nasty, we should encounter it as legit. Shady Sands, in my eyes, is the only one who has a fair chance of being scum. We lynch debears, we lynch SS, we should be fine. Please don't be retarded and still find me scum after this. DP had a town meta read on me, and he's played in all my games. Much more trustworthy than a debears "lololol scum ZB posts in red!1" one. Now that the pressure is off, read my filter carefully and try to think why in the godamn hell would I take so muhc trouble to switch between townies, when it's 100 times easier (and safer) for me to stick with one. Also read my cases and tell me how in a million years they can even be compared to the ones on debears. Also, my claim makes a lot of sense. It's why I've been more aggressive and confident this game. There's this one other post I recall where I stated I had my own reasons for going after debears, but I can't find it, don't remember what to control+F and I don't think it's worth the trouble. My original plan was to claim having been shot n1 and using that as an argument to go full throttle against debears, whom I've been tunneling during day 1, but then I had decided this was a pretty bad argument and would lose my ticket to not being nk (I was thinking that there could be SK). Anyways, we should be good now. If debears or shady sands is medic, claim and seal the game 100%. Otherwise, just stick with debears and we should be fine. Why would you say you were vote switching among townies when you think I'm certain scum or shady is? Definite scumslip ##vote z-boson | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
Give up, scum. | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
I am being accused of being scum. If that is so, then I am switching between two townies. No why would I go and do that? Seems stupid waste of time, no? Hence, I'm not scum. That is what's called an argument. | ||
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Shady Sands
United States4021 Posts
On October 06 2012 08:10 debears wrote: Why would you say you were vote switching among townies when you think I'm certain scum or shady is? Definite scumslip ##vote z-boson Wait, I didn't see this coming in. Wow. Yeah, everyone who is still on the fence about ZB: READ THE ABOVE TEXT PLEASE | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
Lol you are using wifom to defend yourself by saying scum wouldnt do that. Terrible defense reasoning. You totally disregard how suddenly d3 comes and you don't want to lynch me until you are under pressure | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
It's changing because the game is over. Now all that's left of me is to knock some sense into some people. You, of course, is impossible because you are a squirming scum and see me as a golden opportunity to escape, and SS as well, because he has too much snot in his brain. Anyways, this is a waste a time, let's see what our friends think. I gotta convince them, not you. | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
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debears
United States2516 Posts
##unvote ##vote shadysands Got him. Jumped way too easily on that fake scumslip claim | ||
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