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On September 18 2012 18:07 Blazinghand wrote: I'll be around for about a half hour before crashing. Note: I swear to god Bluelightz if you try to lurk through a game that I'm playing in I will bring down the wrath of Athena upon you. The fact that your utter and total silence isn't a scumtell due to your crappy town meta should be an impetus to change, not an excuse to never post. I'm not lurking, It's school and Sleep before now  . | ||
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So, basically, I don't think he's contributing. On September 18 2012 06:21 Mementoss wrote: well this is a lie already, what is it with people lieing on there first post? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355874 You hosted a game he was in. More MKFUBA games if you want + Show Spoiler + Hey, here's some games on X, cheers! I think you obviously couldn't search em up yourself! (Scummy because he's just pointing out the obvious things: Filters of past games). On September 18 2012 06:07 Mementoss wrote: I think day one should be discussing what da bands name is gunna be Clearly trolling is a fine way to start the game! (Read: Nope, it's bad because it's not helping to find scum and win) On September 18 2012 06:34 Mementoss wrote: Thanks for the grammar lesson. Yes, I think if you hosted a game with the player was in it you would have an idea who he was. You asked about him clearly stating `there are a couple of people around i have no idea who is` in reference to MKfuba. Well, you sure made it seem like you were too lazy to find anything about him since you asked the thread about him. The only game I played with him was deathnote, he was active enough, but just seemed to sheep and not lead his own cases. Mostly a commentator. Comments on meta of people are clearly helping us to win the game by killing scum! (Nope.) On September 18 2012 06:36 Mementoss wrote: Well you have no basis right now to think he``s scum, so how does this idea make any sense. Town wins by killing all the scum. Well, this post is somewhat helping, by pressurign iamP for post's, but the other half is what? pointing out the wincons, cheers guys! I totally didn't know that. (Haha, no.) On September 18 2012 06:43 Mementoss wrote: These are the kinda thoughts you keep in your head. Mafia purposely keeps marv alive, for a totally WIFOM, end game cause of what you said. Explain why you think iamperfection is mafia because of that post. No random lynches. -First line: What the hell? -Second Line: Somewhat helpful by pointing out what mafia does with the WIFOM around marv, doesn't help much in finding scum though till late in the game. -Last line: This line is fine, pressures Hapa to post, the other statement is clear enough as well. On September 18 2012 06:56 Mementoss wrote: I read it. It seems like you played with him alot and can really differentiate between his scum and town. It's not the most for sure case of all time, but the post felt scummy to me as soon as I read it and even moreso when I realized he hosted a game with MKfuba in it. He's the scummiest player so far. Iamperfection seems like noobie, why would mafia out themselves like that, also I think he is bitter because of his history with marv. ##vote: prplhz Blazinghand what do you think of hapa immediately coming to prplhz defence? + Show Spoiler + On September 18 2012 06:35 Hapahauli wrote: Hai gais! Good to be back in a mini so I can actually keep track of people more closely =) Prplhz isn't exactly the most attentive host... I was in that game, and he basically forgot to make the last nightpost for a couple of hours. I wouldn't expect him to remember half the players in that game tbh =P Also what do you think of this clear contradiction from prplhz: + Show Spoiler + On September 18 2012 06:07 prplhz wrote: hey guys please no unnecessary bullshit it's perfectly possible to play the game without that and it only serves to make the game harder to read there are a couple of people around i have no idea who is, can anybody explain to me who mkfuba07 is? *Agrees with someone* *Tries to make connections with someone* *Points out contradiction which he doesn't explain though it is clear* Okay, this post mementoss is trying to find scum, but what is his objective by making a connection to Hapa?! (He's trying to possibly direct pressure off prplhz to Hapa, and confusing the lynch target for today) On September 18 2012 07:01 Mementoss wrote: TOO obvious, as in more obvious than Mattchew in LVII? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=361826¤tpage=14#261 Nothing, can be TOO obvious. Thats like saying you don't think someone is scum, because there TOO scummy. Stop waffling, either you think its scummy or you think its not. Don't say things like "kind of like" and "TOO obvious but damning", your all over the place bro. Denies the possibility of someone being town. On September 18 2012 07:12 Mementoss wrote: I did explain it, I found his first post scummy and your case was just some icing on the scum. It's literally an hour in the game, there is no such thing as voting too early. If anything it's going to generate more discussion that can be looked into more later. But I agree on austinmcc being hard to tell what hes getting at as I pointed out, which seems scummy as he usually is very articulate in his posts and has a clear meaning for posting them. Talks about someone while inserting a subtle finger onto austinmcc (Hey I think X is scum, but why not lynch Y instead?) On September 18 2012 08:02 Mementoss wrote: 1) Yeah first post was scummy and it fits the meta analysis aka best case atm. How is accusing people scummy? 2) I said no such thing as voting too early is because a lot of people think they have to wait till last minute to vote especially on day 1, and usually a bad consolidation happens. Voting earlier will just bring up more cases throughout the day. 3) Nothing to do with one another. 4) How is calling someone scummy wishy washy. I don't follow your logic. But I guess it's your thing to jump on me day 1s lol. Defend's himself, this is fine, as he is trying to prove he is town and indeed, not scum. On September 18 2012 09:36 Mementoss wrote: Well, that means it isn't random because it was pre-meditated and thought out. Sooo, yeah. Point's out something on iamP's reason's on marv (subtlely defending him?) On September 18 2012 09:39 Mementoss wrote: oh I thought your meant you told marv you would be voting for him specifically in the next game. acknowledges failure in understand iamP's reason's on marv, doesn't help find scum any how! On September 18 2012 09:55 Mementoss wrote: Answer this, why would scum make their first post that? It obviously wouldn't do anything towards getting Marv lynched. It would only bring negative attention towards himself. Direct's more pressure on Hapa, So, now with this last quote I leave you with this question, Who is your main scum target memen? You voted prplhz, inserted subtle fingers on austinmcc, and is pressuring Hapa, who do you think is scum actually? Oh, and ##Vote: Mementoss | ||
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On September 18 2012 22:01 Ange777 wrote: @prplhz: What makes you think my play is terrible? And why does thinking the Kenpachi/Zephirdd Rule is bullshit entitle you to just ignore cases? Just because someone posts bullshit does not mean that it can't help you uncover scum. Again I don't see any kind of scum hunting from you. Scum? + Show Spoiler + In my first game ever I rolled scum: Newbie XII. @Bluelightz: What makes you think that Mementoss is more scummy than prplhz? Your biggest concern seems to be that he has many different scum reads but that does not mean that he is not contributing. In contrary it is better than prplhz's filter who has not backed up his suspicions with an explanation at all. Haven't read on him yet, and when I read the thread once I came back from school he didn't stick out, I'll get to reading him now and adjust my reads accordingly. | ||
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On September 18 2012 22:40 Mementoss wrote: @Bluelightz case I understand you just went through all my filter, and basically resaid the things I posted. I don't see how it makes me scum, and adding SCUM! at the end doesn't make it make me scummy lol. In the future when making a case, you should outline how the quotes make the person scum and not re-iterate what the post says. Can't say much more now since I'm at work. Why do you have to point fingers on everyone and your now pushing Hapa but voting prplhz? | ||
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##Unvote: Mementoss ##Vote: prplhz If he doesn't step up his contributions (so do I), I think I'll keep my vote on him. I'll go into more detail on this tomorrow as I have to sleep. | ||
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On September 19 2012 02:16 prplhz wrote: Okay guys, I'm going to post a townie list! Green for emphasis! prplhz Blazinghand Palmar iamperfection Hapahauli Mementoss Gonna go read more filters. Hey d00ds clearly list's are not bad! Correct? No! unexplained lists! (Unexplained list's are just random bullshit prplhz is throwing into the thread which is not benefiting anyone.) Something ticks me off with the amount of unexplained stuff in prplhz's post's, say his defense post: On September 18 2012 08:54 prplhz wrote: Yea I had just queue a game of DotA2 when you posted it and then I decided that I would rather see how it other people reacted before shooting it down. I don't really get the first argument. You are saying that my first posts are similar in my scum games, this doesn't make me scum. Then you argue that the first posts themselves have a distinct scummy agenda which is very disputable but more importantly, do you really think that any scum feel the need to push any agenda in their first post? I think that my first post is townie, I think that for all of those scum games you posted. At least the content is townie. Not everything scum posts is scummy. As for the "He's not quick to vote", no that's right, I didn't vote yet during the first 30 minutes of the game. I think it's a very thin argument that I should be scum because of that. I think I like to play both styles styles of "aggressive" and "careful and prodding" as town, I guess it all depends on what mood I am in. Anyway, I think your case on me looks townie and with everything else you've posted I'm pretty confident that you're town. austinmcc, I thought this guy looked really scummy up until this post. It's especially his explanation of that single word "OBVIOUS" that seems very townie to me. It looks like he really thought carefully about my alignment and didn't consider covering his own ass or anything like that. I like that. Townie for now. Mementoss is a little harder. I think he just voted me because I posted a dumb picture and corrected his grammar. That can be really antagonizing I hate when people do that to me when I make a dumb little mistake. Overall I've got a townie feeling about him. marvellosity is pretty shabby for now. Show me some of that "thinky" that you promised before the game. We also need everybody else to join the game and post some more. Bold Paragraph: 1.Dodges argument (Hey I don't know X Imma just completely avoid it!) 2.Says it doesn't make him scum (Hey someone notice he didn't explain WHY doesn't it make him scum?) 3. + Show Spoiler + "Then you argue that the first posts themselves have a distinct scummy agenda which is very disputable but more importantly, do you really think that any scum feel the need to push any agenda in their first post? I think that my first post is townie, I think that for all of those scum games you posted. At least the content is townie. Not everything scum posts is scummy." Then at the end of his post he adds random reads on people, to make the defence post bigger perhaps? After that, he voiced his suspicions on Ange777, he say's he want's to lynch her (or him o_o?) On September 19 2012 08:21 prplhz wrote: Okay I wanted to lynch Ange777 because I thought it was weird that she felt so strongly about me being scum, especially over marvellosity even though that might have been later. marvellosity didn't really do much this game compared to his last game where he was town and me on the other hand has played markedly different I should think. As in, I actually provided reads on people this time aronud. This whole "town reads are useless" is dumb especially when I give you three town reads. And now I gave you six town reads and you are still calling it useless but it isn't. Scum reads are cool but that doesn't mean that town reads are useless. Also, on that post the bold part clearly is thoroughly explained points which will make us believe he is town right???? Nope, "Town reads are useless' is dumb" <---- WHY IS IT DUMB PRPLHZ I DON'T UNDERSTAND....... Lastly, I find a problem between me and why he's voting marv On September 19 2012 02:26 prplhz wrote: hapa too good ##Vote marvellosity "Hapa your so gud! I will totally sheep you with no reason to add at all then the affirmation of my vote on marv :D" (Sheeping with no reason = Bad because we don't know why the fuck does prplhz believe marv is town, for example if he thought marv was scum through the thing Hapa pointed out why didn't he explain why he thought that thing Hapa pointed out scummy?) Basically that's why and I'll be happy to answer any questions/ give opinions on anyone. | ||
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On September 20 2012 11:12 Blazinghand wrote: well Bluelightz I got a question for you regarding your thought process near the end of D1. You made this post: Mementoss made this post about 20 minutes later and you reacted like this, unvoting him and moving your vote onto prplhz. I'm not sure I see the same good explanation you do. You also mentioned if he didn't step up his contributions, you'll keep your vote on him. I know it's quite early right now in Indonesia but when you have the chance, I'd like to know what exactly about his explanation was good and convinced you you should move your vote. It's worth noting he actually said very little in the passage addressed to you, though he had a bit talking to mkfuba afterwards. Was his reference to previous posts enough to convince you? now that the lynch has taken place, what is this "more detail" you were going to go into on Mementoss? Please elaborate. No BH, I unvoted because of this: On September 18 2012 23:14 Mementoss wrote: If you want to know my best scum read, check who I'm voting, that will be it. I'm not pushing Hapa, I'm asking him to explain his reasoning more. Don't purposely misinterpret me, don't you see how far that got Zephridd with his case on Hapa? I'm allowed to pressure other players while voting another player. There is more than 1 scum in this game ya know. I would say the only other person I remotely pressured so far would be austinmcc's scummy indecisiveness. | ||
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On September 21 2012 01:32 Hapahauli wrote: I'll retract on Mementoss for now, and I think Bluelightz is worth taking a look at. Bluelightz has two substantial posts in his filter: Case on Mementoss ----> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250¤tpage=9#179 He states that Mementoss isn't contributing, then proceeds to quote like 10 of his posts. More importantly, this was all on day 1, where mementoss's activity levels were acceptable by any standard. Case on Prplzh ----> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250¤tpage=25#484 This is a really interesting case, because nowhere in the case does he say that Prplzh is "scummy" or is scum. He repeatedly mentions how certain aspects of prplzh's play upsets him ("ticks him off", yadda yadda), but it's not clear if he's even voting prplzh because he's scummy. It also seems somewhat of an "overkill" case. At that point in the game, prplzh was the clear leading vote candidate with plenty of cases out there against him. Making some gigantic summary post wanting to lynch prplzh is completely unnecessary and reads like an attempt to fake a contribution. In addition, he has zero interaction with his #1 scum read. 1. Mementoss's post's rather took my interest because he stood out out of the rest of teh people posting at the time, that't why I made my case on him, I took 10 quotes because I wanted to see how he posted after his original posting. DID YOU LOOK AT THE POST'S I QUOTED? Sure I wouldn't of made the case if Memen looked like he was contributing. 2. I didn't want to sheep, I always have my reasons for voting X or not voting Y. 3. How was I supposed to interact when I was sleeping when prplhz was on? On September 21 2012 01:37 Hapahauli wrote: Well actually, you had that quote in Normal Mini III about Bluelightz meta - he's obsessed with town when he's town, and scum when he's scum. Now I know you were scum that game, but I'm curious if you think that read is accurate? Worth noting that Buelightz has no town reads this game. On September 21 2012 01:50 Hapahauli wrote: Yeah, like I"m comparing his mentality here to his mentality in some of his other town games. His Normal Mini III play should speak for itself (townie reads on everrrryone), but take one of his posts in GSL Mini for example: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=365925¤tpage=15#295 He doesn't really tunnel 1 scumread. Gives a townie, null, and slightly scummy read all in one post. There are several posts like that throughout his filter - he rarely takes a hardline "tunnel-y" opinion on someone in that game. Or his first post in GSL: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=365925¤tpage=7#128 He establishes Risen as town when the whole town wants to lynch him. The most recent scumgame I found in his filter was Normal Mini II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349058&user=235418 He does play a fairly different meta than this game (few very long posts, etc), but I think he's displaying a similar mentality. He's very critical of people's play in his scumgame (as he was with prplzh). He's much more sure of his reads, similar to this game. This could be a trip down meta-confirmationbais lane and I'll have to look more into it, but the mentality IMO is striking. I'd be interested to hear other's thoughts. On September 21 2012 01:59 Hapahauli wrote: Eh? I just read that and that's not what happened at all: 1st post: 2nd post: He then posts 1 or two more things on Obvious then gets caught up in defending himself, jumping around votes and suspicions. He finally votes obvious on the lastminute bandwagon, but follows it up with this: Just a remarkably different mentality - much less sure of himself, and much more open with his reads. On my meta, I'm trying to NOT flood the town with 'useless' town reads, and keep them for when I need to defend them from a impending lynch, on the 'sure or not sure on reads' thing, I felt more confident with my choices on cases this game. | ||
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On September 22 2012 00:39 austinmcc wrote: Bluelightz, what is your current read on mementoss? What was your read at the time you unvoted? I think Mementoss is town, his claim seems believable, and judging by his (chock full of content) posts, He's town. When I unvoted Memen I thought he was town based on the defense he provided (the answer to my question). | ||
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On September 22 2012 01:33 Hapahauli wrote: @ Bluelightz Points #1 and #3 are fair, but Point #2 is one of my main issues. You shouldn't be concerned for giving your reasons for voting someone when there's a strong bandwagon on them. In your other games as town, you were very comfortable sheeping cases, or voting without detailing your reasoning. You bombing a semi-long case on prplzh when he had 4 votes on him was really odd, and IMO not something that should have crossed your mind if you largely agreed with the bandwagon on him. This is odd to me. Why would you withhold information from the town. Waiting for a huge bandwagon to form on someone before you defend them is just strange. Why wouldn't you try to prevent that bandwagon/lynch in the first place by disclosing your town reads? Lastly, I'd like your comments on the Ange777 suspicions if possible. Any other reads you have would do. The more open, the better. Point #2: I don't feel comfortable simply sheeping because it's probably my fault for being fingered for "Oh he only sheeped he might be scum", I don't like to sheep because of that. Other point: Flooding the thread with my town reads aren't that useful if they're not the person being discussed, and that if I just flood the thread with town reads people will finger me for "He's only spouting town reads, he's not scum hunting kill him!" TL;DR Don't like leaving things to chance Ange777 will come after reading the thread. | ||
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Right now, Palmar seems more scummy to me then Ange (but willing to switch if need be) because On September 18 2012 23:05 Palmar wrote: ok I've caught up. Will read more attentively later, some of you guys textwall like bosses. Here's my current idea of the thread. I will deny! iamperfection Hapahauli blazinghand Palmar Junglers Zephirdd Mementoss bluelightz prplhz Ange777 mkfuba07 5 carries on your team Marvellosity HiroPro austinmcc Seriously? Palmar's a vet but I don't think he can go down this low, I think the unexplained list is self-evident of why it's bad. On September 22 2012 00:09 Palmar wrote: Hiro, then possibly bluelightz, or austinmcc, but austin I would rather not lynch right now. ange and zeph are much more in the null/leaning town territory. hapa, meme, iamperf are the guys I'm pretty sure are town. It's irrelevant, and sure I can make a case as to why I think Ange is town, but it's not going to be what you expect or what you want to hear. don't think I can today though. But we have plenty of time. Additionally, This post: Unexplained stuff all across the board! Then he thinks Ange IS town but refuses to disclose why HE thinks Ange is town. Lastly, I view Palmar's tunneling of marv only to be viewed as "doing something" (read: scumhunting). ##Vote: Palmar | ||
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On September 22 2012 23:39 Hapahauli wrote: @ Anyone Now normally I view these things as mafia-mentality. I don't know why a townie would be scared of making reads because people would point fingers or be suspicious of them. I see these defensive impulses as mafia traits. However, as many of you have stated, this is Bluelightz. Is he capable of this as town? I honestly don't think so, since he's normally pretty reckless/carefree as town. Am I wrong for not cutting corners? | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote: Ange777 Don't think having my vote on Palmar will help later on during the last minute mess. | ||
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On September 24 2012 12:24 HiroPro wrote: Mementoss you wanted new analysis on why marv is SK right? This is new analysis! COMMENT! WHERE ARE BLUELIGHTZ AND ANGE????? Asleep and School. Timezones moron. I'm reading up on why people are ganging up on HiroPro. | ||
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My current scum reads are the same with others: HiroPro, because he stresses he IS a townie, but doesn't explain why the bloody hell he is a townie. On September 24 2012 05:04 HiroPro wrote: I'm a townie townie Townie Townie. Also because he made a case on marv purely based on meta, which is rather weak as a reason because meta can change every now and then. ##Vote: HiroPro | ||
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On September 24 2012 22:21 Bluelightz wrote: Hapa: My current scum reads are the same with others: HiroPro, because he stresses he IS a townie, but doesn't explain why the bloody hell he is a townie. Also because he made a case on marv purely based on meta, which is rather weak as a reason because meta can change every now and then. ##Vote: HiroPro Ah derp, didn't realize Hapa was addresing Ange with his post. | ||
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On September 24 2012 20:25 marvellosity wrote: Bluelightz, it's a 77 page game and you have only 1 page of filter. Here's a clue - that's not enough. I'm just posting what's necessary - Scum reads and votes. The game is rather very complicated for me to form a read right now then forming reads later on during or one day before LYLO. | ||
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On September 24 2012 22:24 marvellosity wrote: how can you not have learnt from GSL that that is too late to start trying properly? At the moment you are spectacularly not contributing to town :/ What's the point with flooding town with my huge list's that people will just say "Oh Bluelightz is scum! look at dat list!" | ||
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On September 24 2012 22:23 marvellosity wrote: this is so weak :/ Do you not have anything/anyone else to talk about? I'm trying to understand Ange's filter....... (As well as others as soon as I wrapped up that). | ||
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On September 24 2012 22:31 marvellosity wrote: Put it this way, we just lynched Palmar for not contributing or caring for town. Hiro is in a similar boat. Who do you think will be next? *Raises hand* Yeah, I'm gonna go serious mode then probably . | ||
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On September 24 2012 23:44 marvellosity wrote: what iamp said. Why don't you like, try now? Is that totally beyond you for some reason? Well then just wait a bit while I read filters and form more reads I guess. | ||
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On September 24 2012 06:02 Hapahauli wrote: Oh and I was roleblocked. Cool. How did Hapa get roleblocked if the roleblocker (Hey Palmar!) got lynched? | ||
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Yeah I knew I should've read the post's around that one I guess. Anyway on Ange, On September 23 2012 02:05 Ange777 wrote: Someone asked for my reads. I can't elaborate them in detail as I really don't have much time this weekend but if you let me survive I am more than willing to explain them in detail. iamperfection > still leaning scum marvellosity > null/town Zephirdd > scummy Mementoss (vigi) > scummy semi-confirmed town bluelightz > lurker/sheeper > null/scummy Palmar > scum Hapahauli > town HiroPro > lurker > null/scummy austinmcc > town Ange promises to explain them in detail if he survives, Ange survived, but has she explained them in detail? nope, from reading Ange's filter this is what keeps me from just throwing a full blown town read on him. | ||
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On September 24 2012 23:52 Zephirdd wrote: Because marvellosity claimed jailer. Are you seriously attacking the confirmed mason? >_> Didn't read the thread again >_< | ||
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On September 24 2012 23:55 marvellosity wrote: Tell me, why aren't you reading the thread? (I read his filter, but not the post's surrounding the post.) | ||
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First, on Memen, because of his vigi claim, that today there was only 1 KP sent, and because he has been actively scumhunting (Making a case on Zeph), this read may change if we see 2 KP later on. Second, on Zeph I think he's town as well for posting a lot of content, and actively scumhunting as well like Mementoss, actually, thinking about it, Zeph is more townie then Memen. | ||
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On September 24 2012 23:57 marvellosity wrote: That wasn't the question. Why haven't you been reading the thread? I have been reading the thread, to be honest, Ive been lurking while reading the thread, bringing the occasional X is scum because of Y and Z. | ||
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On September 24 2012 23:58 Bluelightz wrote: I have been reading the thread, to be honest, Ive been lurking while reading the thread, bringing the occasional X is scum because of Y and Z. Clarification = I have read the thread, But I'm not actively posting in the thread, and not paying enough attention while reading filters. | ||
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On September 24 2012 23:59 marvellosity wrote: If you had been reading the thread, there is no way at all you would have missed that I claimed Jailkeeper. How did you miss it if you've been reading the thread? I forgot, plain and simple. | ||
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iamperfection marvellosity Zephirdd Mementoss bluelightz Ange777 Hapahauli HiroPro Holy fuck! by process of elimination HiroPro and iamP are left (But that is if Ange is town, if Ange is scum it's a whole different story). I haven't read on iamP though. As for the unexplained reads that are marv and Hapa, I think they're town because they're far more active than me in scum-hunting, Hapa also for being a confirmed mason (Why doesn't he die? Scum fear of doctors?), and marv for claiming JK while Hapa was RB'd. | ||
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On September 25 2012 00:01 marvellosity wrote: BL, if you haven't been reading the thread, I want you to be honest about it Because you don't forget that someone claimed Jailkeeper if you'd actually read it. Tell me what's going on without trying to hide please. I'm too lazy to post. I'm not scum. I'm not trying to hide anything. It's just I'm too lazy, as well as skipping large parts of the thread which I deem unnecessary to read (Okay I should stop that), and that I'm too lazy to re-read the thread. | ||
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Bluelightz
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On September 25 2012 00:05 Ange777 wrote: I should be available and more active in the next days. Hiro I could only repeat what has been mentioned by others. No contribution and clear trolling should be more than enough to prove that he is scum. ##: Vote HiroPro iamperfection I had a strong scum read on him. Don't think I need to repeat why. The reasons were elaborated more than once. I'm not so sure anymore. His posting is much better than at the start of the game, more open in his thought process. I am leaning null on him right now. Bluelightz I seriously don't know how to read bluelightz. While you are free to call my filter small, his is really tiny. It's hard to imagine someone signing up for a game and lurking all the way so that he has a 1 page filter at day3. My problem with it is that I could not read him in GSL as well. Still Scummy. Mementoss I am not sold on his town-alignment. I really didn't like the way he nitpicked my filter and tried to accuse me of scummy behaviour when he himself did the exact same thing. I have not read anything that made me think he's townie yet. woop Ange explained his read's. (I think I may consider this post slightly town, because the reads are well-explained). | ||
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Bluelightz
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On September 25 2012 00:05 Bluelightz wrote: I'm too lazy to post. I'm not scum. I'm not trying to hide anything. It's just I'm too lazy, as well as skipping large parts of the thread which I deem unnecessary to read (Okay I should stop that), and that I'm too lazy to re-read the thread. Also, I don't really read into REALLY long post's except if they involve me or someone I am looking into. | ||
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
On September 25 2012 00:08 marvellosity wrote: I literally just do not understand how you can have this attitude after what happened in GSL, it makes me really, really sad. But for now, there's not a lot else to say on the matter, so whatever. It's hard to be motivated after being lynched and continuing the streak of town losses caused by your truly. | ||
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Bluelightz
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On September 25 2012 00:15 marvellosity wrote: Surely that's the reason to try your absolute best and turn things around, no? "Bluelightz is helpful! He's probably scum! Like in Sum of all Fears Mafia! It's not normal isn't it?! He's scum!" Even then when I DO try and do it people still insist I'm scum, I break down when people just blob into me. | ||
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
On September 25 2012 00:26 HiroPro wrote: Ok guys. I seriously don't understand what you're doing. I made a great case and none of you are actually reading it. Let me put it this way to you. Serial killers have 1 KP. Mafia teams have 1 KP. How many people do you need to kill in order to get rid of the serial killer? Only 1. How many people do you need to kill in order to get rid of mafia? 2. SO WHY ARE WE NOT KILLING THE SERIAL KILLER MARV!!! My summary of your case is: VE coached Marv! VE had 17 pages of filter as a SK! Marv had 16 pages here! They're same! THEY ARE BOTH SK K? Don't think that'll convince me..... | ||
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
On September 25 2012 00:39 HiroPro wrote: Let me add to the list of antitown things marv has done: - Shut down discussion on himself - Called people bad without saying they were scum - Spammed unnecessarily to make himself look town - No Pictures - Lots of lists (not like this one, useless stuff) How's that as a scummy trait Mr.I think your scum but You think your town? | ||
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
On September 25 2012 22:31 Ange777 wrote: @Bluelightz: So who would be your final scum pick? Either you or iamP, but I haven't read on iamP yet though. | ||
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
On September 19 2012 01:04 Ange777 wrote: Because? Can't you give a reason when you are suddenly stating town or scum reads? On September 25 2012 00:05 Ange777 wrote: I should be available and more active in the next days. Hiro I could only repeat what has been mentioned by others. No contribution and clear trolling should be more than enough to prove that he is scum. ##: Vote HiroPro iamperfection I had a strong scum read on him. Don't think I need to repeat why. The reasons were elaborated more than once. I'm not so sure anymore. His posting is much better than at the start of the game, more open in his thought process. I am leaning null on him right now. Bluelightz I seriously don't know how to read bluelightz. While you are free to call my filter small, his is really tiny. It's hard to imagine someone signing up for a game and lurking all the way so that he has a 1 page filter at day3. My problem with it is that I could not read him in GSL as well. Still Scummy. Mementoss I am not sold on his town-alignment. I really didn't like the way he nitpicked my filter and tried to accuse me of scummy behaviour when he himself did the exact same thing. I have not read anything that made me think he's townie yet. On September 25 2012 00:31 Ange777 wrote: Ok, while I don't believe marv to be the serial killer, the logic seems sound. Am I missing something why we should kill scum first before serial killer if we were equally sure/suspicious of them? They contain only questions, a sheep vote with nothing new to add, and.... that's it. I find this rather scummy (If HiroPro flips scum though, if he flips town this is all irrelevant). | ||
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
On September 26 2012 07:22 Hapahauli wrote: For everyone not-confirmed town (Ange777, Zephirdd, iamperfection, Bluelightz), make sure you post your reads on each of the other players. The more open you are, the better chance we'll have of nailing the last scum tomorrow. My reads are: Ange - Probably last scum because of his 'lack' of interaction with Hiro before the day Hiro got lynched, his sheep vote on Hiro with no additional explanation or why did he believe the reason's other people pointed out. Everyone else - Town. | ||
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
"Yes, but my feel with an ange lynch is that the same that happened with bluelightz on GSL will happen here. I don't want to open the thread and see that I lost because he was the scum." If you think we are going on the wrong way, please argue why Ange is town, and why I must be scum (except process of elimination, I atleast provided some points on Ange). | ||
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Bluelightz
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