EPTBluelightz is pretty null. I don't see anything scummy about him not sharing his town reads outright. And the "overkill" point isn't very good. Bluelightz just honestly posts weird.
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
Bluelightz is pretty null. I don't see anything scummy about him not sharing his town reads outright. And the "overkill" point isn't very good. Bluelightz just honestly posts weird. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On September 22 2012 03:04 Mementoss wrote: I would disagree, I think if anything this makes it more likely that ange and palmar would be scum together. Ange has been throwing suspicion at Palmar all game, without doing a fucking thing a bout it. Thats a main point of my case on her, appearing useful through these points and questions, but really not having a purpose behind any of them, is scum motivation. They don't need a purpose they have the answers. Can you honestly say that these things ange said affected Palmar in any way whatsoever>? That's a fair point. I will say that Palmar defending Ange (if they're both scum) is a bit odd, considering how "obvious" the scumslip is. Honestly, I just think that this thing on Palmar's coming together a bit too easily. | ||
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
What would scum motivation be for Palmar giving his town read on me and explaining it (to an extent) in day 1/night 1. I was probably the 3rd most likely to be lynched day 1, and I was probably a major point of discussion day 2 as a lynch possibility, mainly through the thoughts of Austinmcc and Hapa (Possibly ange). | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Now I don't see how this makes sense from a scum-objective standpoint. If he just believed that prplzh was town near the gallows deadline, I'd find that scummy. But he's not. He's going out of his way to establish townie reads (and rather accurately so far). His only confirmed mistake thusfar is mkfuba, and that's something everyone got wrong. Is it possible that this is scum motivated? Yah sure, I mean scum have alignments of every player. But him going out of his way to establish multiple players as town isn't what I'd expect scum to do. Plus, if he and Ange were scum, from what marv is saying, he'd pretty much auto-bus her, especially after including her in a scumlist yesterday. I really want to hear what he has to say about Ange. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On September 22 2012 04:00 Mementoss wrote: @Hapa/Marv What would scum motivation be for Palmar giving his town read on me and explaining it (to an extent) in day 1/night 1. I was probably the 3rd most likely to be lynched day 1, and I was probably a major point of discussion day 2 as a lynch possibility, mainly through the thoughts of Austinmcc and Hapa (Possibly ange). why the screw not? Go look at Palmar's filter in Bureaucracy, he's very forthcoming with townreads. I initially led a lynch but then abandoned it and protected my 'townread' Bluelightz in Normal Mini Mafia 3, when I had the opportunity to lynch him, and then leave Palmar's choice of lynch to the next day, and I basically protected BL for the whole game after. Why not? 3rd most likely to be lynched? Who the fuck cares. When it actually matters (prplhz/Ange) Palmar has stayed completely unforthcoming in the explanation for his reads. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On September 22 2012 04:27 Hapahauli wrote: The thing with Palmar is that he's been really forthcoming with town-reads all game. He had me, you (mementoss), Blazinghand, and prplhz read as town before any flips. He also has a town-read on iamperfection that I very much agree with. Now I don't see how this makes sense from a scum-objective standpoint. If he just believed that prplzh was town near the gallows deadline, I'd find that scummy. But he's not. He's going out of his way to establish townie reads (and rather accurately so far). His only confirmed mistake thusfar is mkfuba, and that's something everyone got wrong. Is it possible that this is scum motivated? Yah sure, I mean scum have alignments of every player. But him going out of his way to establish multiple players as town isn't what I'd expect scum to do. Plus, if he and Ange were scum, from what marv is saying, he'd pretty much auto-bus her, especially after including her in a scumlist yesterday. I really want to hear what he has to say about Ange. yeah, you're just falling into the trap of being confused by his games. Pretty annoying to watch actually. I want Palmar dead more than I want Ange dead right now. ##Unvote ##Vote: Palmar | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On July 21 2012 04:38 syllogism wrote: It's his overall behavior, lack of effort and attitude towards me and sandroba especially. Some of his reads I think are genuine (for example what he says about layabout) and some clearly are not (his BM read). Can you find anything that indicates he cares about the town and wants to push town towards anything useful? He just pops in to say something irrelevant. Town palmar would never think I'm mafia by this point (as a side note, I actually think that there is a chance that he thought that I was early on and tried to "communicate" with me by random voting me). if you don't want to listen to me, listen to syllogism | ||
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
On September 22 2012 05:00 marvellosity wrote: if you don't want to listen to me, listen to syllogism How is this out of context quote relevant to anything lol, its someones opinion on meta. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On September 22 2012 05:04 Mementoss wrote: How is this out of context quote relevant to anything lol, its someones opinion on meta. Because it directly applies to this game, it matches in every way. Palmar went after one of the stronger, more vocal town players in Bureaucracy (syllo), read me here. Hapa's all like "but this and this look genuine", here's syllo pointing out that as mafia Palmar does look like he's making genuine reads "Can you find anything that indicates he cares about the town and wants to push town towards anything useful? He just pops in to say something irrelevant." Again, a total mirror image of this game. He gives pointless town reads on iamperfection, but on important matters - prplhz, Ange, Hiro - he does nothing AT ALL. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On September 22 2012 04:55 marvellosity wrote: yeah, you're just falling into the trap of being confused by his games. Pretty annoying to watch actually. I want Palmar dead more than I want Ange dead right now. ##Unvote ##Vote: Palmar Confused, yes. No reason to think he's scum though. As far as I'm concerned, Ange made a scumslip, and Palmar has D2 and D3 to prove his alignment one way or the other. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
He's also proved it by refusing to elaborate at any point, especially today, on why Hiro is scum. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On September 22 2012 05:08 marvellosity wrote: Because it directly applies to this game, it matches in every way. Palmar went after one of the stronger, more vocal town players in Bureaucracy (syllo), read me here. Hapa's all like "but this and this look genuine", here's syllo pointing out that as mafia Palmar does look like he's making genuine reads "Can you find anything that indicates he cares about the town and wants to push town towards anything useful? He just pops in to say something irrelevant." Again, a total mirror image of this game. He gives pointless town reads on iamperfection, but on important matters - prplhz, Ange, Hiro - he does nothing AT ALL. Agree that some of his conduct is similar. Disagree that at the time he went after you, you were one of the more vocal town players. I know that you are often vocal, but in this game BH took that role and you were less vocal than you sometimes are, whether it was an intentional attempt to be more thinky or not. Also, he replaced into this game. Unsure whether that changes conduct, but it's something to keep in mind that "replacing into a mini" and "starting a full-size themed game from the start" are not the same jumping-off point. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
On September 07 2012 05:32 marvellosity wrote: I will tell you why your post was not formed in the manner of the most intelligent, prplhz, my good sir. Scum marvellosity sees something dodgy that Risen has written, and aggressively pursues scum Risen for it. He won't let it go and in fact makes scum Risen look worse and worse with each passing post. Having made scum Risen look awful to the thread, to the point where everyone is piling on to him, scum marvellosity decides to remove any credit he might have for the flip by unvoting him without much reason. Therefore scum marvellosity's masterplan is to get scum Risen lynched completely unnecessarily and give himself no credit for it. scum marvellosity is a fucking genius. Replace Risen with Palmar and apply the bolded parts for Day1/Night1 and Day 2? Does this sound right to you? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
Also I couldn't agree more with marv. Palmar is scum just freaking kill him >_> On September 22 2012 04:27 Hapahauli wrote: The thing with Palmar is that he's been really forthcoming with town-reads all game. He had me, you (mementoss), Blazinghand, and prplhz read as town before any flips. He also has a town-read on iamperfection that I very much agree with. Now I don't see how this makes sense from a scum-objective standpoint. If he just believed that prplzh was town near the gallows deadline, I'd find that scummy. But he's not. He's going out of his way to establish townie reads (and rather accurately so far). His only confirmed mistake thusfar is mkfuba, and that's something everyone got wrong. Is it possible that this is scum motivated? Yah sure, I mean scum have alignments of every player. But him going out of his way to establish multiple players as town isn't what I'd expect scum to do. Plus, if he and Ange were scum, from what marv is saying, he'd pretty much auto-bus her, especially after including her in a scumlist yesterday. I really want to hear what he has to say about Ange. BH was obviously town After my terrible case against you, you were obviously town mementoss and prplhz were as town to him as to nobody. Don't you find it odd that these two were getting fire and Palmar simply said "huh they are town" and nothing else? When he had to chose between no-lynching and lynching someone who was not "obviously town look at his big post", he chose to no-lynch? Fuck I'd probably switch into austin if it was necessary to avoid the no-lynch, but there were more votes on prplhz and I had more confidence on him. No, this Palmar has done enough. I won't let him live another day. We lynch him today. | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
On September 22 2012 05:15 Mementoss wrote: While were here throwing out random quotes I found an interesting one: Replace Risen with Palmar and apply the bolded parts for Day1/Night1 and Day 2? Does this sound right to you? they were both town and it was day 1 IIRC we are at day 2 and palmar has done jack shit | ||
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
On September 22 2012 05:23 Zephirdd wrote: they were both town and it was day 1 IIRC we are at day 2 and palmar has done jack shit The context is not the point, its the point that its Marv's opinion on his own scum play, which is going to be more accurate than anyone elses opinion on his scum play. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
If I thought that either of them would feel heavily pressured by a few votes, I might cast my lot in to see what it shook out of one of em, but I see you being able to keep their cool as scum under pressure, and I don't want to play games when I'm so sure ange is scum and we've got her up for lynch right now. | ||
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