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Blazinghand
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Blazinghand
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On September 19 2012 18:13 Palmar wrote: The point is marv was really, really not doing jack shit in the game until I actually came in and called him out on it. He seems to have really changed things up. He even changed his entire attitude to be more badass. If you don't believe me, read his filter before, and after this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=16286762 If true this alone is reason enough to vote for Marv. A town Marv would never change his posting style because Palmar called him on it. He might try to add more content or something but changing his style is never something he'd do, not even for Palmar. Town marv doesn't care about style, he cares about results. It's something a scum Marv would do in response to being called on it, though. Reading. | ||
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Blazinghand
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Hypothetical Palmar wrote: because prplhz is town | ||
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So I don't agree entirely with the "Marv changed his tone" portion of the case, which to me is one of the biggest factors. There's some merit to it, though. He definitely displayed some badass attitude in his early posts in the game here. However, there was a big ramp-up after Palmar's initial attack with some (faked?) anger and general badass attempts. Also note a complete cessation on his metacommentary (examples here and here) after the attack. Barring the period between voting Palmar and unvoting Palmar and voting prplhz, though, he's been pretty similar (though he's reverted to his normal spammier style of play despite what he said earlier). The Palmar vote and subsequent un-marv-like aggression is not, to me, a scumtell. The remainder of the case concerns Marv's level of contribution and specific posts with him. His post about the divided town is bad and un-townmarv-like. His post telling Palmar to piss off is dumb but not scummy. It falls into the "possibly angry" time as well... but it is uncharacteristic. His post demanding a scum motivation for his OMGUS is dumb, and would be null except Marv isn't that dumb. Very scummy. The sheeping quote doesn't mean anything to me. Before this, I didn't know what to make of Marv. Now I think of him as scummy. Also, his interaction with prplhz when he gets mad feels very ungenuine. I did some serious thinking before I wrote this post. I don't like lynching active players D1. I really don't like lynching Marv D1 since he often doesn't make it to D2. But more than that, I don't like not lynching scum. I know you've been giving me town props all day today Marv, but I'm afraid I can't reciprocate the feelings. ##unvote ##vote: Marvellosity | ||
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Blazinghand
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##unvote ##vote prplhz I'm going to bed. I'll be up | ||
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I just refuse to vote for a case I feel so shitty about. Not today. Not today Palmar. | ||
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Blazinghand
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On September 19 2012 23:29 Hapahauli wrote: Voting prplhz is a bad idea, and I'm going to switch into hard-defending mode. Have you seen some of the reasoning that people are voting him? Austin sheeped him apathetically. Bluelights sheeped him a looooing time ago. Blazhinghand thinks he's the scummiest player, but has voted for marv and mkfuba in the interim for questionable reasons. MMtoss voted him on Day 1, has discussed several other cases and has barely mentioned prplhz at all since. Ange is the only person who has something resembling reasonable suspicion on prplhz, and even then I highly disagree with it. I'll get to this more after class, but we should really be looking at some of the people on the prplhz wagon. Especially MMtoss. I'm scratching my head here cause this hard defense seems very much like just random discrediting and very little like a refutation of a case or an explanation for why your case is better. This ain't a hard defense at all. I am unconvinced. | ||
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On September 20 2012 01:32 Hapahauli wrote: Where's this? You certainly haven't recently stated that you think prplhz is scum unless I'm missing something. Also, you never perused your read on your top scumread until I pointed it out to you. How you know this? you a mind reader bro man Hapa just trying to read the words you're writing here is terrible. It's like you studied for the SAT but you used a shitty book and now you don't know what you're saying. | ||
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Blazinghand
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On September 20 2012 03:05 marvellosity wrote: Could you be a little more constructive rather than your two offhand remarks about austin and prplhz you've done so far today? I assume you're talking about this calendar day rather than this game day, to which I respond: I have only just woken up. Let me refer you to the previous calendar day, about 10 hours ago, when I was in in which I have done a great deal to pressure and attack numerous players and try to get the lurkers in this town moving, in addition to reaffirming my faith in the prplhz case. | ||
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Blazinghand
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On September 20 2012 03:07 prplhz wrote: Two best town players in this game (Palmar and Hapahauli) think I'm town and I'm pretty sure they're not both scum (I would be very surprised if even one of them was) and that they have their god damn reasons. Hapa has bad reasons and Palmar has never shared them with us, if you can present me with a better case and/or defend yourself adequately I will move my vote. On September 20 2012 03:07 prplhz wrote: Additionally, just that huge fucking text wall is something you can't see in any of my god damn scum games. ... You're not really this dumb, right? You think this is an argument that has literally any merit at all? On September 20 2012 03:07 prplhz wrote: There are a couple of you who are seriously dumb for voting me and then there's the rest who are just sheeping. Please dont' overwhelm me with compliments. | ||
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Blazinghand
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On September 20 2012 03:09 iamperfection wrote: What should he have said nothing at all? stfu. I'm amazed you've invested one of your precious few posts telling me to shut up this game. What prplhz should really have done is be scumhunting all day, rather than posting a massive text-wall defense 3 hours from the deadline. This should be pretty obviously what someone would do if they wanted to help town. | ||
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Blazinghand
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On September 20 2012 03:08 prplhz wrote: Hey Blazinghand who do we lynch when we're not lynching me today because I'm town? Yes, this is a serious question and you should answer it, I don't even give a shit about any reasoning right now just a name and a couple of lines if you're in a generous mood. If it was clear to me I couldn't get a majority on you (and it seems it could head way, given the amount of jubjubs jumping ship on this case) my other lynch targets are mkfuba, iamperfection, and marvellosity. That being said, I should probably read into mementoss since people seem to be voting him, but nothing he did D1 jumped out to me as scummy on the first read-through. | ||
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Blazinghand
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On September 20 2012 03:12 marvellosity wrote: Blazing, could you throw me a read on austin + mementoss? I'll do mementoss first. | ||
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On September 20 2012 03:16 iamperfection wrote: No it looks like to me know that you must have some kind of extra informatioN.? Because ut seems like to me you just created a situation where there is no possibslity that prplhz is town. I didn't create that situation: prplhz did, as he played through this D1. | ||
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Here are the reasons Mementoss is scummy: 1) unwilling to take risks, instead asks questions in this post. 2) responds to Hapa in a kind shitty way (link) but hapa's initial questioning is basically a huge over-reach in terms of interpretations of Mementoss' reasonings. Overall, I think the exchange between these two shows Hapa grasping for non-reasons to vote for Mementoss, which is rather un-Hapa-like. Watching Hapa kick around a weaker player like this, one who isn't immediately scummy (though he has a worryingly low post count) slightly lowers my opinion of Hapa but does not change my read on Mementoss. Overall, Hapa, your case on Mementoss is old and unconvincing. | ||
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Blazinghand
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austinmcc ( 2 ) Marvellosity, mkfuba07 marvellosity ( 2 ) Palmar, prplhz Hapa ( 1 ) HiroPro prplhz ( 5 ) Ange777, blazinghand, bluelightz, Mementoss, Zephirdd Zephirdd ( 1 ) iamperfection Mementoss (2) Austinmcc, Hapahauli Presently, no one is set to be lynched! 2.5 hours remain in Day 1 ! All you idiots who are jumping off the Prplhz wagon to do shit like vote for Hapa and other bad wagons are... well, you're idiots for doing that. Look, we've got like 2.5 hours left to get 7 votes onto someone. That someone should be prplhz, and if you think prplhz is scummy and your vote isn't on him, you're saying "I'd rather no-lynch than vote for scummy prplhz". Those of you who think you're on real wagons (the ones on austinmcc, marvellosity, and mementoss) you gotta realize nobody's joining you. You should all combine into one super-wagon and pick up the stragglers to avoid a no-lynch, preferrably on marvellosity. Ideally though guys like HiroPro and iamperfection will pull their heads out of their asses and stop wasting their votes even harder than the dudes on the 2-vote wagons. I'll take a look at autinmcc now. | ||
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