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On September 20 2012 06:07 Hapahauli wrote: Also wasn't planning on prplhz claiming vigi. Bit of an IRC miscommunication there. Oh wellz. Time to re-evaluate some reads in the last few pages. People who honestly thought we were scum after the screwed up claim get some townie points. Yeah you claiming before the flip was good because you confirmed yourself. Prphlhz claiming vig not so good. | ||
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On September 20 2012 07:54 marvellosity wrote: yeah, i don't agree. Since we both have a scum read on MKfuba who would your 2nd best scum read be atm. | ||
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I'd be interested for people's reads on the people that have been really out of the spotlight for the most part: Zephridd Bluelightz HiroPro I'll be back in the morning and dig their filters. | ||
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Bluelightz switch and play is odd, but that is not alignment indicative for him apparently, I have never played with him before. Zephridd had a bad case on Hapa who we now know is confirmed town. But having a bad case or being wrong isn't alignment indicative either. The fact that he mis-intrepreted him however, can be seen as scummy. But Hapa mis-intrepreted me twice, and we know he is town now so I guess it can happen if your town or scum. Look at the way zeph jumps onto prplhz , there is not really a solid reason and it feels kinda awkward. | ||
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On September 21 2012 01:50 Hapahauli wrote: Yeah, like I"m comparing his mentality here to his mentality in some of his other town games. His Normal Mini III play should speak for itself (townie reads on everrrryone), but take one of his posts in GSL Mini for example: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=365925¤tpage=15#295 He doesn't really tunnel 1 scumread. Gives a townie, null, and slightly scummy read all in one post. There are several posts like that throughout his filter - he rarely takes a hardline "tunnel-y" opinion on someone in that game. Or his first post in GSL: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=365925¤tpage=7#128 He establishes Risen as town when the whole town wants to lynch him. The most recent scumgame I found in his filter was Normal Mini II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349058&user=235418 He does play a fairly different meta than this game (few very long posts, etc), but I think he's displaying a similar mentality. He's very critical of people's play in his scumgame (as he was with prplzh). He's much more sure of his reads, similar to this game. This could be a trip down meta-confirmationbais lane and I'll have to look more into it, but the mentality IMO is striking. I'd be interested to hear other's thoughts. I would disagree he seemed very unsure of his read on me in the early game this game. | ||
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On September 21 2012 04:31 austinmcc wrote: When Bluelightz posted his case on you, posed a question, then unvoted later, did you feel like he was consistent in his behavior? Entirely independent of your alignment, how did you read Bluelightz vote/unvote? It seemed legit to me, I think he wrote his case came back and realized it was pretty wrong/bad. Then my responses cleared up any doubts he had. | ||
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On September 21 2012 04:49 Hapahauli wrote: Oh and since night deadline is in a couple of hours and I have a commute subject to traffic: Town: Marv (for reasons previously posted) BlazingHand (duh) Zeph (mega confirmation bais vs. me) Null-ish: Ange (:effort: making me lean town on her) mkfuba (leaning town for reasons posted in thread - too open with thought process) Mementoss (null) Hiro (nullz) austinmcc (nullzzzzz) scum: Bluelightz Palmar I'll try to work out some of those null reads before the deadline. Should have a half an hour or so before the deadline to work on things. Could you elaborate more why you think MKfuba is town? I think the fear he has with posting openly has clearly painted him scum. | ||
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On September 21 2012 04:53 Hapahauli wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250¤tpage=37#736 Before he made that post on austin though he made a much weaker one, his filter generally gives me a feel of him being scared to post then deciding to post later. The post on me was a different way of wording what other people have already said. Hard to tell though. | ||
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On September 21 2012 04:56 austinmcc wrote: Okay. Any posts you can link to back those thoughts up? Specifically the him realizing it was wrong/bad and what responses cleared things up. Trying to see that interaction from all angles, although he doesn't seem to <3 responding to things. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250¤tpage=11#203 then there is more if you read through to the next page | ||
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On September 21 2012 05:33 Zephirdd wrote: nobody cared about my palmar post mesad TT maybe im biased since it was defending me but I think you were too critical on many factors, Marv was harping him all game about not explaining things and I think he explained himself pretty good there. Also about the dead people it's true that people should pay more attention to them, but not completely rely on it. I guess is what I'm saying is I don't agree with almost any of your post lol. | ||
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On September 21 2012 05:39 marvellosity wrote: basically he tried to explain the little things, but all the major stuff got left untouched or badly explained. Not sure how you don't see this. Maybe its cause so many people are trying to show how every sentence he ever said in this game is scummy. And with you I'm not going to be able to trust your read on Palmar cause you've been looking at him very scum biased since the game started. You got the blinders on and only can see scum motivation from everything he says, look at it from both sides, and not insta post insult posts immediately after. I can see where he is coming from with that post. It also makes sense for town Palmar to not play to full Palmar potential on Day 1 cause he wants to avoid getting shot and make better reads when he has a lot more information on day 2. The only legit point you have is him not explaining his scum reads right now. I definitely expect him to really up his game scumhunting in day 2. | ||
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On September 21 2012 05:51 Zephirdd wrote: Mementoss, on a completely unrelated note. What do you think of iamperfection? null leaning town, I haven't re-read his filter recently but I've felt this way since his first post. But I do think hes anti-town/useless | ||
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On September 21 2012 05:52 Mementoss wrote: null leaning town, I haven't re-read his filter recently but I've felt this way since his first post. But I do think hes anti-town/useless wadda you think bro | ||
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On September 21 2012 05:57 Zephirdd wrote: so he is null, leans town and is anti-town? Jesus christ when someone asks you a question at least open his filter and form a proper opinion -_-' While you're at it, can you link me where you give your opinion on mkfuba(or just tell me)? anti-town has nothing to do with alignment, and null on the townier side. What do you think of Perfection? I will go through his filter and everyone elses better day 2. | ||
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Leader of da Band ![[image loading]](http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/26900547/James+Hetfield+James+Seattle.jpg) James Hetfield - One of the greatest frontmen of all time Sup I'm the leader of da band. When I initially got this role my strategy was to wait until night 3 to shoot, because that is when I always die and I confirmed the shot would still go through. I wanted to do this because I thought it would increase my odds a lot to hit scum. Night 1 Odds 1/11 ( 1 Dead 1 Me) Night 2 Odds 1/8 (4 Dead 1 me) Night 3 Odds 1/5 (7 dead 1 me) But this relied on too much assumptions. Not ever lynching scum, not getting role blocked, mafia shots going through ever night etc. Why I decided to shoot tonight: Well I felt quiet a bit of pressure throughout a lot of day 1 from probably 4ish players. Throughout the night phase people were still discussing their reads on me and I didn't really like that. Not because I thought I would be lynched day 2, but because I think it wastes a lot of potential time hunting actual scum. Also, I thought my shot could give a solid stance on the person I shot and time wouldn't be wasted on discussing their lynch. Basically to get town on good track to a scum lynch day 2. How I decided who to shoot and who I shot: Who I Couldn't shoot: Marv Palmar Hapa BH Why? Pretty simple, I don't want my shot to stack and they are pretty popular targets tonight imo. So that limits it down a little. Too null to shoot: Ange IamPerfection Zephridd Too null for me to shoot. In Ange's case I think she can be really useful to the town if shes town, and if shes scum I think we will have enough posts to analyse to take her down. I actually considered shooting Iamperfection, just for the fact that I don't want his random shit around anymore I don't want him around at lylo situation. But I decided against it, despite what people say I still think he wouldn't quiet have the balls to bring that much attention to himself as a noob scum. Zephridd is same case as Ange, I think if hes scum he posts enough that he will fuck up and we can lynch him. Who I really considered shooting in order of most to least: MKFuba HiroPro BL MKfuba, though slightly more active than the other 2 has really caught my eye as scummy from his starting post. Throughout his filter he seems scared to post anything and delays on posting. He picks out easy things to post about. He would likely be part of the day 2 discussion at least in my mind. Hiro, always a hard motherfucker to read imo. I went through his filter and everything seems genuine he's doing his own thing and seems open and honest, glad I read his filter because Im leaning a bit town on him. Bluelightz, from what I've heard you don't really want him around at lylo and his case on me was bad, and I don't think hes going to be able to convince anyone of scum with cases like that. His meta apparently shows that hes more sure and critical as scum and more unsure as town. He seemed unsure on my case but on the prplhz case he seemed really aggressive and very critical and sure. He also has been lurking the hardest so the shot wouldn't be wasted. In the end I went with my gut and shot MKFuba. Now at least tomorrow will be productive I will be confirmed and scumkfuba will be out of the game. If my shot doesn't go through: I was either a) roleblocked, which I will be notified of and its fine, other than it makes me look more scummier than ever or b) I hit SK. If my shot doesnt go through and I was not notified of being role blocked. The lynch 100% needs to be on Mk to kill off the SK who chose night immunity. Thats all folks, my first time being vig and it was pressureful. I hope I hit scum, but at the very least, I hope this will help propel day 2 into an ideal scum hunting atmosphere and a fresh start to the game. TLDR I SHOT MKFUBA Kicked out of the band I googled scum mkfuba and this picture came up + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/C5Z80.jpg) Not sure what it means though. | ||
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it doesn't confirm me town at all and i didn't hit scum. | ||
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Mafia should have 2 kp if 3 players or 1 kp SK and 1 kp mafia | ||
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