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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 18 2012 15:01 GMT
#221
On September 19 2012 00:00 Mementoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2012 23:56 marvellosity wrote:
On September 18 2012 23:54 Ange777 wrote:
@marv:

I don't remember if I've played with Hiro (probably not). Is there some meta play I should be aware of? Otherwise I can't understand why you are pushing a HiroPro lynch when I feel like prplhz is far more scummy.

@iamperfection:

Saying Zeph defended you by accusing your accuser is a stretch. Why wouldn't you accuse Mementoss instead who actually did defend you?


Because prplhz has at least done *something* and HiroPro hasn't?


Wouldn't by the same logic you would have MKFuba in there?


Show nested quote +
On September 18 2012 23:54 Ange777 wrote:
@iamperfection:

Saying Zeph defended you by accusing your accuser is a stretch. Why wouldn't you accuse Mementoss instead who actually did defend you?


Why did you purposely leave Palmar's name out when you clearly quoted him "defending" iamperfection in the same fashion I did in your own post before? Seen below:

+ Show Spoiler +
On September 18 2012 23:48 Ange777 wrote:
@Palmar:

Show nested quote +
On September 18 2012 22:57 Palmar wrote:
On September 18 2012 09:39 iamperfection wrote:
On September 18 2012 09:38 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 18 2012 09:35 iamperfection wrote:
On September 18 2012 09:35 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 18 2012 09:30 iamperfection wrote:
you case on prplhz is shit. a fucking meta case on 1 post come on. Although i dont think that was the point of your case i think the purpose was to drive discussion which it has done. Kudos to you.

The purpose of my random lynch was an attempt to drive some discussion. I had already discussed with marv after my previous game in which palmar suggested a random lynch in order to drive discussion on day 1.

Thats why i find it extremely wierd that marv didnt think it was random when i had already spoken with him that i would do it in my next game.
On September 18 2012 06:46 marvellosity wrote:
P.S the whole point is that iamp's suggestion wasn't random, so we already have a liar. LAL?


I say we respect his wishes.

## Vote Marvelosity


Geebus why are you flipping out?

what?


"you case on prplhz is shit. a fucking meta case on 1 post come on."

Seems very unnecessarily critical/harsh/attacking. Like I don't think his case is good either, but that's just over the top and scummy imo.

he is a big boy. i dont think he will lose sleep over it.


Confirms my post above. No scum would say this.


Why wouldn't scum say this? While I agree with Blazinghand and hapa leaning town, I can't understand how you are giving iamperfection townie points.



I commented on fuba already, if you care to read my posts. The point with Hiro is that he posted several times but without any substance whatsoever.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
September 18 2012 15:04 GMT
#222
On September 19 2012 00:01 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 00:00 Mementoss wrote:
On September 18 2012 23:56 marvellosity wrote:
On September 18 2012 23:54 Ange777 wrote:
@marv:

I don't remember if I've played with Hiro (probably not). Is there some meta play I should be aware of? Otherwise I can't understand why you are pushing a HiroPro lynch when I feel like prplhz is far more scummy.

@iamperfection:

Saying Zeph defended you by accusing your accuser is a stretch. Why wouldn't you accuse Mementoss instead who actually did defend you?


Because prplhz has at least done *something* and HiroPro hasn't?


Wouldn't by the same logic you would have MKFuba in there?


On September 18 2012 23:54 Ange777 wrote:
@iamperfection:

Saying Zeph defended you by accusing your accuser is a stretch. Why wouldn't you accuse Mementoss instead who actually did defend you?


Why did you purposely leave Palmar's name out when you clearly quoted him "defending" iamperfection in the same fashion I did in your own post before? Seen below:

+ Show Spoiler +
On September 18 2012 23:48 Ange777 wrote:
@Palmar:

Show nested quote +
On September 18 2012 22:57 Palmar wrote:
On September 18 2012 09:39 iamperfection wrote:
On September 18 2012 09:38 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 18 2012 09:35 iamperfection wrote:
On September 18 2012 09:35 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 18 2012 09:30 iamperfection wrote:
you case on prplhz is shit. a fucking meta case on 1 post come on. Although i dont think that was the point of your case i think the purpose was to drive discussion which it has done. Kudos to you.

The purpose of my random lynch was an attempt to drive some discussion. I had already discussed with marv after my previous game in which palmar suggested a random lynch in order to drive discussion on day 1.

Thats why i find it extremely wierd that marv didnt think it was random when i had already spoken with him that i would do it in my next game.
On September 18 2012 06:46 marvellosity wrote:
P.S the whole point is that iamp's suggestion wasn't random, so we already have a liar. LAL?


I say we respect his wishes.

## Vote Marvelosity


Geebus why are you flipping out?

what?


"you case on prplhz is shit. a fucking meta case on 1 post come on."

Seems very unnecessarily critical/harsh/attacking. Like I don't think his case is good either, but that's just over the top and scummy imo.

he is a big boy. i dont think he will lose sleep over it.


Confirms my post above. No scum would say this.


Why wouldn't scum say this? While I agree with Blazinghand and hapa leaning town, I can't understand how you are giving iamperfection townie points.



I commented on fuba already, if you care to read my posts. The point with Hiro is that he posted several times but without any substance whatsoever.


I am reading your posts, basically it says, MKFuba is doing the exact same thing as Hiro but I know him IRL so I'll focus on HiroPro, is this not correct?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 18 2012 15:07 GMT
#223
On September 19 2012 00:04 Mementoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 00:01 marvellosity wrote:
On September 19 2012 00:00 Mementoss wrote:
On September 18 2012 23:56 marvellosity wrote:
On September 18 2012 23:54 Ange777 wrote:
@marv:

I don't remember if I've played with Hiro (probably not). Is there some meta play I should be aware of? Otherwise I can't understand why you are pushing a HiroPro lynch when I feel like prplhz is far more scummy.

@iamperfection:

Saying Zeph defended you by accusing your accuser is a stretch. Why wouldn't you accuse Mementoss instead who actually did defend you?


Because prplhz has at least done *something* and HiroPro hasn't?


Wouldn't by the same logic you would have MKFuba in there?


On September 18 2012 23:54 Ange777 wrote:
@iamperfection:

Saying Zeph defended you by accusing your accuser is a stretch. Why wouldn't you accuse Mementoss instead who actually did defend you?


Why did you purposely leave Palmar's name out when you clearly quoted him "defending" iamperfection in the same fashion I did in your own post before? Seen below:

+ Show Spoiler +
On September 18 2012 23:48 Ange777 wrote:
@Palmar:

Show nested quote +
On September 18 2012 22:57 Palmar wrote:
On September 18 2012 09:39 iamperfection wrote:
On September 18 2012 09:38 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 18 2012 09:35 iamperfection wrote:
On September 18 2012 09:35 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 18 2012 09:30 iamperfection wrote:
you case on prplhz is shit. a fucking meta case on 1 post come on. Although i dont think that was the point of your case i think the purpose was to drive discussion which it has done. Kudos to you.

The purpose of my random lynch was an attempt to drive some discussion. I had already discussed with marv after my previous game in which palmar suggested a random lynch in order to drive discussion on day 1.

Thats why i find it extremely wierd that marv didnt think it was random when i had already spoken with him that i would do it in my next game.
On September 18 2012 06:46 marvellosity wrote:
P.S the whole point is that iamp's suggestion wasn't random, so we already have a liar. LAL?


I say we respect his wishes.

## Vote Marvelosity


Geebus why are you flipping out?

what?


"you case on prplhz is shit. a fucking meta case on 1 post come on."

Seems very unnecessarily critical/harsh/attacking. Like I don't think his case is good either, but that's just over the top and scummy imo.

he is a big boy. i dont think he will lose sleep over it.


Confirms my post above. No scum would say this.


Why wouldn't scum say this? While I agree with Blazinghand and hapa leaning town, I can't understand how you are giving iamperfection townie points.



I commented on fuba already, if you care to read my posts. The point with Hiro is that he posted several times but without any substance whatsoever.


I am reading your posts, basically it says, MKFuba is doing the exact same thing as Hiro but I know him IRL so I'll focus on HiroPro, is this not correct?


Incorrect, fuba basically hadn't posted AT ALL, whereas Hiro *was* posting, but what he was posting was worthless. How do you not see the distinction?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
September 18 2012 15:07 GMT
#224
Memen: Aren't you just deflecting pressure onto mkfuba? If you want to answer like that at least explain to me why it's the same, oh and answer my question.
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Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
September 18 2012 15:07 GMT
#225
Mementoss did defend iamperfection whereas Palmar simply gave him town cred for apparentely no reason. But iamperfection himself had commented on Mementoss' defense so of course I am asking for his stance on Mementoss.
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
September 18 2012 15:08 GMT
#226
Ok the best reaction I got was from a guy that is clearly town(imp). Yes, I stretched a lot my case, and most reactions were "hugh this is bad" but only imp tried to vote me for it. Dang.

I dont like that marv spent so much effort on something meaningless(da rule)

And Palmar is town this game for sure.

Finally, there is a quote from prplhz that makes me want to kill him.

To whoever asked, bh's case on prplhz is good because it does fit everything regarding prpl's meta
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
September 18 2012 15:10 GMT
#227
On September 18 2012 20:58 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2012 20:53 marvellosity wrote:
On September 18 2012 20:33 prplhz wrote:
Disclaimer: I don't read any analysis that refer to the "Zephirdd Rule" also known as the "Kenpachi Rule Extended" because I think it's bullshit.

Anyway, HapaHauli is playing active and townie and I have no interest in lynching him today. Ange777 is looking terrible though.

@Ange777 Have you been scum at any point and can you direct me to one of those games?

List of people who suck: Bluelightz, marvellosity.


Agreed, I've not done anything yet. Something decent to come when I get a decent chunk of time today.

Ange listed her entire history last game in GSL Open. Do your own research you lazy sod, especially when it was given to you just one bloody game ago. Funny how you forget so quickly.

funny how you think i read that game


Clearly showing disinterest. Plus, his whole play here consi
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
September 18 2012 15:13 GMT
#228
On September 19 2012 00:10 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2012 20:58 prplhz wrote:
On September 18 2012 20:53 marvellosity wrote:
On September 18 2012 20:33 prplhz wrote:
Disclaimer: I don't read any analysis that refer to the "Zephirdd Rule" also known as the "Kenpachi Rule Extended" because I think it's bullshit.

Anyway, HapaHauli is playing active and townie and I have no interest in lynching him today. Ange777 is looking terrible though.

@Ange777 Have you been scum at any point and can you direct me to one of those games?

List of people who suck: Bluelightz, marvellosity.


Agreed, I've not done anything yet. Something decent to come when I get a decent chunk of time today.

Ange listed her entire history last game in GSL Open. Do your own research you lazy sod, especially when it was given to you just one bloody game ago. Funny how you forget so quickly.

funny how you think i read that game


Clearly showing disinterest. Plus, his whole play here consi

Consists of asking questions about others to everyone, never trying to answer himself.

##unvote
##vote prplhz
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
September 18 2012 15:15 GMT
#229
@Zeph:

What makes Palmar town? Posting that big list dividing us in town, null and scum reads?
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
September 18 2012 15:17 GMT
#230
On September 19 2012 00:15 Ange777 wrote:
@Zeph:

What makes Palmar town? Posting that big list dividing us in town, null and scum reads?

Meta. He's shown waaaay too much interest to be scum palmar
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 18 2012 15:19 GMT
#231
On September 18 2012 23:48 Ange777 wrote:
@Palmar:

Show nested quote +
On September 18 2012 22:57 Palmar wrote:
On September 18 2012 09:39 iamperfection wrote:
On September 18 2012 09:38 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 18 2012 09:35 iamperfection wrote:
On September 18 2012 09:35 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 18 2012 09:30 iamperfection wrote:
you case on prplhz is shit. a fucking meta case on 1 post come on. Although i dont think that was the point of your case i think the purpose was to drive discussion which it has done. Kudos to you.

The purpose of my random lynch was an attempt to drive some discussion. I had already discussed with marv after my previous game in which palmar suggested a random lynch in order to drive discussion on day 1.

Thats why i find it extremely wierd that marv didnt think it was random when i had already spoken with him that i would do it in my next game.
On September 18 2012 06:46 marvellosity wrote:
P.S the whole point is that iamp's suggestion wasn't random, so we already have a liar. LAL?


I say we respect his wishes.

## Vote Marvelosity


Geebus why are you flipping out?

what?


"you case on prplhz is shit. a fucking meta case on 1 post come on."

Seems very unnecessarily critical/harsh/attacking. Like I don't think his case is good either, but that's just over the top and scummy imo.

he is a big boy. i dont think he will lose sleep over it.


Confirms my post above. No scum would say this.


Why wouldn't scum say this? While I agree with Blazinghand and hapa leaning town, I can't understand how you are giving iamperfection townie points.


Because it's posted in such a matter-of-fact-I-don't-need-to-worry kind of way, he just posted another thing that looks good regarding mkfuba's school.

he's basically being very straight up, which is townielike.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 18 2012 15:21 GMT
#232
On September 19 2012 00:17 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 00:15 Ange777 wrote:
@Zeph:

What makes Palmar town? Posting that big list dividing us in town, null and scum reads?

Meta. He's shown waaaay too much interest to be scum palmar

Nothing in my filter suggests I'm town yet. I've only been confirmed town once so far, but you're not good enough to notice it, so why do you want to be my friend?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 18 2012 15:22 GMT
#233
prplhz you useless sack of shit, get in thread.

Do you want to kill marv? austin? Hiro? give me something.
Computer says mafia
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
September 18 2012 15:26 GMT
#234
On September 19 2012 00:07 Bluelightz wrote:
Memen: Aren't you just deflecting pressure onto mkfuba? If you want to answer like that at least explain to me why it's the same, oh and answer my question.


Read the thread I answered your questions. And please take off scum shaded glasses everytime you talk to me, I'm not deflecting pressure onto mkfuba, I'm getting verification from Marv, why he is biased towards one lurker over the other.

On September 19 2012 00:07 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 00:04 Mementoss wrote:
On September 19 2012 00:01 marvellosity wrote:
On September 19 2012 00:00 Mementoss wrote:
On September 18 2012 23:56 marvellosity wrote:
On September 18 2012 23:54 Ange777 wrote:
@marv:

I don't remember if I've played with Hiro (probably not). Is there some meta play I should be aware of? Otherwise I can't understand why you are pushing a HiroPro lynch when I feel like prplhz is far more scummy.

@iamperfection:

Saying Zeph defended you by accusing your accuser is a stretch. Why wouldn't you accuse Mementoss instead who actually did defend you?


Because prplhz has at least done *something* and HiroPro hasn't?


Wouldn't by the same logic you would have MKFuba in there?


On September 18 2012 23:54 Ange777 wrote:
@iamperfection:

Saying Zeph defended you by accusing your accuser is a stretch. Why wouldn't you accuse Mementoss instead who actually did defend you?


Why did you purposely leave Palmar's name out when you clearly quoted him "defending" iamperfection in the same fashion I did in your own post before? Seen below:

+ Show Spoiler +
On September 18 2012 23:48 Ange777 wrote:
@Palmar:

Show nested quote +
On September 18 2012 22:57 Palmar wrote:
On September 18 2012 09:39 iamperfection wrote:
On September 18 2012 09:38 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 18 2012 09:35 iamperfection wrote:
On September 18 2012 09:35 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 18 2012 09:30 iamperfection wrote:
you case on prplhz is shit. a fucking meta case on 1 post come on. Although i dont think that was the point of your case i think the purpose was to drive discussion which it has done. Kudos to you.

The purpose of my random lynch was an attempt to drive some discussion. I had already discussed with marv after my previous game in which palmar suggested a random lynch in order to drive discussion on day 1.

Thats why i find it extremely wierd that marv didnt think it was random when i had already spoken with him that i would do it in my next game.
On September 18 2012 06:46 marvellosity wrote:
P.S the whole point is that iamp's suggestion wasn't random, so we already have a liar. LAL?


I say we respect his wishes.

## Vote Marvelosity


Geebus why are you flipping out?

what?


"you case on prplhz is shit. a fucking meta case on 1 post come on."

Seems very unnecessarily critical/harsh/attacking. Like I don't think his case is good either, but that's just over the top and scummy imo.

he is a big boy. i dont think he will lose sleep over it.


Confirms my post above. No scum would say this.


Why wouldn't scum say this? While I agree with Blazinghand and hapa leaning town, I can't understand how you are giving iamperfection townie points.



I commented on fuba already, if you care to read my posts. The point with Hiro is that he posted several times but without any substance whatsoever.


I am reading your posts, basically it says, MKFuba is doing the exact same thing as Hiro but I know him IRL so I'll focus on HiroPro, is this not correct?


Incorrect, fuba basically hadn't posted AT ALL, whereas Hiro *was* posting, but what he was posting was worthless. How do you not see the distinction?


Well what really caught my eye was Fuba's first post.


On September 18 2012 09:39 mkfuba07 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2012 09:37 iamperfection wrote:
On September 18 2012 09:36 Mementoss wrote:
On September 18 2012 09:30 iamperfection wrote:
you case on prplhz is shit. a fucking meta case on 1 post come on. Although i dont think that was the point of your case i think the purpose was to drive discussion which it has done. Kudos to you.

The purpose of my random lynch was an attempt to drive some discussion. I had already discussed with marv after my previous game in which palmar suggested a random lynch in order to drive discussion on day 1.

Thats why i find it extremely wierd that marv didnt think it was random when i had already spoken with him that i would do it in my next game.
On September 18 2012 06:46 marvellosity wrote:
P.S the whole point is that iamp's suggestion wasn't random, so we already have a liar. LAL?


I say we respect his wishes.

## Vote Marvelosity


Well, that means it isn't random because it was pre-meditated and thought out. Sooo, yeah.

Believe it or not it did randomly come out as marv.

So what are we actually supposed to gain from this random voting? o.O


A shit load has already happened in the thread, and this is the ONLY thing he thinks is worth commenting on? Looks pretty fishy to me. I understand hes at school now and will expect more from him tonight. Fuba was in teh thread last night and decided to not say anything except the above.

I agree with you that HiroPro hasn't said anything towards finding scum, or anything that helps at all really. But sadly this seems like typical HiroPro meta. Even though it's 'typical' HiroPro it's not to be excused, and I definitely would ask him to step it up.

It just seems weird that you would bias one over the other.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 18 2012 15:26 GMT
#235
On September 19 2012 00:21 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 00:17 Zephirdd wrote:
On September 19 2012 00:15 Ange777 wrote:
@Zeph:

What makes Palmar town? Posting that big list dividing us in town, null and scum reads?

Meta. He's shown waaaay too much interest to be scum palmar

Nothing in my filter suggests I'm town yet. I've only been confirmed town once so far, but you're not good enough to notice it, so why do you want to be my friend?


Pretty much this. If people want to make any sort of meaningful comparison, check out NMM3 (town) vs Bureaucracy (mafia) where Palmar actually did post a decent amount.

The way Zeph backed down from his dumb case is super weak as well. I don't know why Zeph is picking on prplhz for asking questions when all Hiro has done is ask questions whereas at least prplhz made one post contributing some opinions.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
September 18 2012 15:35 GMT
#236
@marv: I am far more comfortable lynching someone I have a scum read on (prplhz) than a semi-lurker (HiroPro). Especially as I feel that his posting is exactly the same as GSL Open.
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 18 2012 15:36 GMT
#237
On September 19 2012 00:35 Ange777 wrote:
@marv: I am far more comfortable lynching someone I have a scum read on (prplhz) than a semi-lurker (HiroPro). Especially as I feel that his posting is exactly the same as GSL Open.


What specifically makes prplhz scummier than HiroPro?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
September 18 2012 15:46 GMT
#238
On September 19 2012 00:07 Ange777 wrote:
Mementoss did defend iamperfection whereas Palmar simply gave him town cred for apparentely no reason. But iamperfection himself had commented on Mementoss' defense so of course I am asking for his stance on Mementoss.

to me mementoss seemed to be more remarking just on person who would propose a random lynch in general. In my view Zephirdd is the better option because not only does he defend me he misrepresented hapas posts.

On September 18 2012 09:55 Mementoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2012 09:54 Hapahauli wrote:
Well tbh, you could make that entire chart red - I lynched goodkarma in one game because I thought his play was "too clean" =P

But back to iamperfection, I'm definitely leaning scummy to him for now. I can't yet discount him just being plain pissed that you voted for him (a townie OMGUS type thing), but the sudden severity of it all is just really strange.


Answer this, why would scum make their first post that? It obviously wouldn't do anything towards getting Marv lynched. It would only bring negative attention towards himself.


To me he was only stating a fact.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
September 18 2012 15:55 GMT
#239
Having been the "center of attention" prplhz should easily have some scum reads. So where are they? It's the same as last game. And him saying he won't read any Kenpachi/Zeph rule stuff is definitely not pro-town behaviour at all. I don't see any effort from him regarding scum hunting.
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
September 18 2012 15:55 GMT
#240
Ah, Memen, I see. Good explanation.

##Unvote: Mementoss
##Vote: prplhz


If he doesn't step up his contributions (so do I), I think I'll keep my vote on him. I'll go into more detail on this tomorrow as I have to sleep.
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