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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
thrawn2112 (4) - debears, Atreides, Dandel Ion, kushm4sta Dandel Ion (1) - thrawn2112 KillingTime (0) - Atreides (0) - JacobStrangelove (0) - Currently, thrawn2112 is set to be lynched with 4 votes. Deadline in ~25 hours. JacobStrangelove, sharky246, KillingTime have yet to vote. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On September 25 2012 07:55 thrawn2112 wrote: dandel please tell me why you think I'm scum Originally because of the second paragraph of this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=367548¤tpage=50#984 On September 23 2012 19:31 thrawn2112 wrote: That case does influence my read of jacob to be more townish than I previously thought. Not because of the quality of the arguments (i'll let you know what I think about the actual case when I finish reading it) but because of the sheer amount of work he put into it and how he is actually very clear with his accusations which was my (and kush's) problem with his previous posting. I'm starting to think that the interactions and accusations between me/jacob/kush (all varying degrees of the more active posters in the thread) suggests that there could be a large portion of mafia among the lurkers. But since I now believe in Jacob being scum too, it's pretty clear that both of you are trying to at least appear active and (kinda) useful, while planning to mislynch a lurker, making this post twice as bad as I originally thought it was. + Show Spoiler + Also, because of this: On September 13 2012 12:42 thrawn2112 wrote: ugh i wish i could (/in) but i only get internet for like 2 minutes a day at most lol | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
On September 25 2012 02:51 Dandel Ion wrote: The thing is that you try to make it sound as if Remedy was two bandwagons, but it really was just one. I have mentioned debears often enough, methinks. Nobody is interested in debears being scum, and with my current theory, debears actually ISN'T scum. Which is a shame, I had a pretty strong read. But you know what? I am willing to admit I was most likely wrong about debears. I think that Kush is town. In fact, he is the most town. I'm still null on Killing. How that's possible given the gamelenght? It's the magic of lurking. Story of this game. All of those you could've found out if you actually paid attention. Or maybe you did pay attention and just want to discredit me as a "bandwagoner". Who knows You say you're null on killing, but then throw in a suggestive statement that there might be something suspicious about him... yet you have a null read on him. Time to grow some balls and stop subtly hinting at things that might be scummy. Is your read on him really null? | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On September 25 2012 08:15 thrawn2112 wrote: You say you're null on killing, but then throw in a suggestive statement that there might be something suspicious about him... yet you have a null read on him. Time to grow some balls and stop subtly hinting at things that might be scummy. Is your read on him really null? Yes it is. | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
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thrawn2112
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
You know who lies? Scum You know who doesn't? Town -> You must be scum Logic A+ | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
On September 25 2012 08:26 Dandel Ion wrote: Because it was a lie, obviously. You know who lies? Scum You know who doesn't? Town -> You must be scum Logic A+ so your argument is that I was scum before the game started? previously kush was the only person silly enough to make that argument | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
Some men just want to argue. | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
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thrawn2112
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
I'm saying you were planning on not being active, but you were super active. I suggested a possibility is that rolling mafia motivated this activity. No it's not a slam dunk but its not the only argument against you either. | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
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thrawn2112
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JacobStrangelove
Australia1572 Posts
On September 25 2012 06:28 kushm4sta wrote: Thrawn there is still more than a day left. I still want Jacob to explain that joke cause it makes no sense to me. Oh just drop it kush, it's not funny anymore considering it was one of my jokes it probably never was and it's just going to get even un-funnier if I explain it. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
He said that if there was a SK it has to be thrawn, because of the double roleblock claim + nobody died apart from the factional scum kill. There I explained it. It was really not funny, but man, no big deal. | ||
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JacobStrangelove
Australia1572 Posts
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JacobStrangelove
Australia1572 Posts
Just an update, I still think kush highest scum read followed by dandel followed by killing/thrawn. So.. I am going to start with just dandles filter, we all know what rethos was like but I am going to pretend he never existed. Four page filter Page 1 + Show Spoiler + On September 21 2012 22:57 Dandel Ion wrote: Also, some LOGIC about the roleblock and nightkill to start things off: SDM probably roleblocked you. In fact, IF you have been roleblocked, it was SDM. Reasoning: It was redundant for him to roleblock one of the masons. You all treat the masons as confirmed town, but they really are not. As long as none of them flip, there will remain some doubt. And it could possibly surface at a very bad time for town. It would be incredibly stupid for scum to shoot one mason, and leave the other in the game. During Night 1, that is. Now the thing is, scum got lucky and hit the jailkeeper, which means they could possibly kill Sharrant and Sharky during the next 2 nightphases. If they did not hit the JK, they wouldn't be practiaclly able to whack either, because the JK could just camp the confirmed town. Sure, scum can then hit anyone else, but that's a long time to leave a confirmed townie running around. Might as well start shooting into the crowd right away. Which they did. tl;dr: SDM was a smart man. And scum is unfortunately not mentally handicapped. Also, EVERY roleblock happening absolutely needs to be claimed. I would think that should be a no-brainer for townies, but I want to say it. If there's anyone else that got roleblocked during the night, please claim too. It could be because he hasn’t read the thread but I think at this point that we know sharrent was Role blocked. Even if not the fact he can talk about it as the first thing means he probably knows what happened. + Show Spoiler + On September 22 2012 00:30 Dandel Ion wrote: Ah, so Sharrant got JK'd. Yes, that MUST have been SDM. Scum RB'd thrawn then. Too bad I already gave SDM credit for not JK'ing Sharrant (or Sharky), now it turns out he did :/ No wait here we are. In other words it’s just odd this was the first thing he was able to talk about. + Show Spoiler + On September 22 2012 00:36 Dandel Ion wrote: It would make zero sense for a town RB (RB doesn't protect from nighthits) to block thrawn of all people. Yeah cause you totally think thrawn is town right now -_- + Show Spoiler + On September 22 2012 01:10 Dandel Ion wrote: Disclaimer: I am not done with reading the thread and respective filters Right now, I have deep suspicions of Remedy. No sure if they will stand, but I think they may. I'd also be down for lynching Stutters, Killing or Atreides, but all of them are mostly policy about lurking/non-conributing, and less about actual scumreads. I do think, however, that getting rid of lurkers one way or the other is absolutely necessary looking towards MYLO/LYLO. If there's only 1 or 2 lurkers, that could be easily solved with a vig shot, but we have 3 (4 counting the late rethos), and possibly no Vig at all. Which sucks. I need to look more into debears, so I'd like to withhold judgement for now, but I'll bring him up if I see something suspicious. Sorry to be "that guy", but I'll come back to this later. Ok he would be ok lynching stutters/remedy (both flip green) killing and Atreides. Killing and Atreides are both town reads of mine (before accosiation) but it is hard to tell without any filter to go though. It seems like he is just picking every lurker that wasn’t rethos (oh wait I forgot he doesn’t exist again) + Show Spoiler + Because he's being SUPER useless while being "confirmed" town. And that makes me mad. Cause if he keeps that up when Sharrant gets shot (and Sharrant WILL get shot soon, since he's the only mason that actually does ANYTHING), it ain't gonna be pretty. Knows sharrent was going to get shot. In the same post goes after debears simply for accusing him. + Show Spoiler + On September 22 2012 20:09 Dandel Ion wrote: Why is everyone* so focused on SK? It's not even sure there is one (in fact, it's more likely there is not), and even if there is, finding him is almost the same as scumhunting, he just has no teammates to either give him away or protect him. You can worry about the SK when people keep dying and you already got 2 scum, but the way this game is going, you're not gonna have even a single scum anytime soon. Pls go back to looking for scum, instead of speculating about SK. Thx. *slight exaggeration Know we aren’t going to have a single scum, and that is a massive exaggeration. Two out of like 13 people obsessed with the Sk. (and I was obsessed with him pregame mind you) + Show Spoiler + On September 23 2012 00:24 Dandel Ion wrote: What? lol Are you trying to make this personal? If so, you're not doing a good job of it. I got suspicious of you when I saw how distracting and disruptive you were in the beginning, without contributing. That was before you made your weird posts where you clearly didn't (want to) understand what was actually going on. Were you trying to hit a nerve? Cause you didn't. Maybe you're frustrated because of that now? And "shitty" and "no-content" is not pro-town, no matter what you tell yourself. No he didn’t do a good job of it, if you want personal look at his case against debears after one post against him. + Show Spoiler + On September 23 2012 00:52 Dandel Ion wrote: Eh, if that's going to be the wagon, so be it. ##unvote ##vote stutters Wagons with ease. Still several hours before the lynch. + Show Spoiler + On September 23 2012 02:12 Dandel Ion wrote: wtf I've said multiple times that I was willing to lynch Stutters too, what more do you need? I think you said multiple times you were going to lynch everyone. + Show Spoiler + I NEVER, even remotely called for a vig shot on anyone. The ONLY thing I said was that it's a valid strategy for lurkers to be dispatched by Vigs. I even said, in the same post, that it doesn't apply to this particular game, because everyone and their mother lurks here. Honestly I wish it did happen, would have made my day so much easier and my mother does not lurk here that is a blatant lie. + Show Spoiler + On September 23 2012 06:39 Dandel Ion wrote: Hm, Ninja'd Well, I think Remedy is scum. I even made a case on him, so pls no hate for voteswitching, kk? ##unvote ##vote Remedy Hey let’s just call everyone scum so I have a reason for switching in an instant. + Show Spoiler + On September 23 2012 06:45 Dandel Ion wrote: Why do you think you NEED an argument? Interesting wording you have there. Well you obviously you don’t need one. (ok I will admit I am annoyed...) + Show Spoiler + On September 23 2012 07:45 Dandel Ion wrote: So thrawn is the only one you want to lynch... Come on, there are three scum in the game. Sit down and share some reads with your Well out of the three people in serious question at the time both but you flipped town. Well the rest of his filter is just the recent arguments. Now it is a weakish case but this is completely ignoring every scummy action that rethos made. I don’t think ignoring that is the logical thing to do. I am going out at 1 and will be back at night. This gives me 12 or so hours to hammer down my only strong case left. Kush. I will do debears filter (assuming we hit mafia in this lynch{although a vig should could still keep us even}) but my goal right now is to make absolutely sure we get scum. The only way I can be sure of this is if we lynch kush, admittedly thrawn considering recent arguments could be scum as well but... oh and because he is my only strong read and you want votes: ##VOTE: Kushm4sta | ||
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JacobStrangelove
Australia1572 Posts
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