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On September 02 2012 11:24 Shady Sands wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 11:21 Risen wrote:On September 02 2012 11:20 Shady Sands wrote:On September 02 2012 11:17 Risen wrote:If I can find something that tells me sab is traitor, that means anyone else can as well. I swear I'm the only one who puts effort into these games. From a game I watched called Bureaucracy. The second I saw HiroPro call sab out for lying/inconsistency I reread sab's filter and the green red thing clicked in my mind so I searched for traitor in the TL search bar. Lo and behold. + Show Spoiler +On July 22 2012 14:05 slOosh wrote:Awesome on two counts! I am a Crazed Employee - basically a delayed 1 shot vig, and I targetted Foolishness last night. As you know I've been spending a majority of my time figuring him out and was wavering because he had a good case on BM which I agree with, yet chose to do exactly that a case on BM. I was torn on trying to figure out meta and trusting people's reads, but VE's grilling brought out cold hard, in-thread contradictions that I understand and trust. Probulous I'm assuming is some sort of kingmaker (?) - and he made VE king to lynch BH. Prob has also said that Chezinu is some sort of rolecop: Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 10:47 Probulous wrote:
Time to read that Ole foolish filter. I don't think Chez is scum. He worked out my role but never outed it. I think he can check the names of roles because he correctly emphasised the first three letters of mine to me and only me. Prob is it clear from your role name what your ability is? Because from a minion perspective, the knowledge of someone's role is hard to use - even if you knew someone was blue you can only submit the name to CEO kill list, and outting something like that isn't a town thing to do in the first place. But I also thought he was some sort of messenger role? Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 03:23 VisceraEyes wrote:On July 22 2012 02:20 Palmar wrote:
I haven't caught up since last night. Did Chez ever claim messenger role? The way Chez does, yes. And he sent me a message so... I forgot who said it (was quite recently) that scum and town may have mirror/similar abilities. Sandroba was a clear instance of a town messenger - use ability to find out scum. Chezinu or whoever is sending seems like they are sending messages of confusion (house of Chezinu etc.). In any case I still have to do more rereading & filtering in light of the new information influx. Lastly, I think that the traitorous employee should claim. As I understand it it's like a self-aware miller who wins with town but numbers count with scum. Since mafia have to kill all town they are torn having a "confirmed town" alive and wasting their 1 KP on a useless kill (doesn't count to their wincon), and have lost their means of instantly killing him, plus the possible additional benefits of seeing scum strategies and redacted knowledge through outed PMs can be huge. On August 31 2012 17:27 strongandbig wrote:
Good morning, everyone!
So I've been reading some discussion about this from past games, and I've decided to come forth and claim. I am a self-aware miller.
I'm going to use this post to explain myself and my claim. Hopefully I'll do it well, but I'll also do my best to respond to questions, as well as just to establish my townieness through my play.
So first off, why claim now?
Well, it's clearly now or never. Millers claiming after they're checked are completely useless - in fact, they're worse than useless since they give actual scum cover to hide and potentially waste a lynch.
Second, why claim at all? Well, the main reason is that everyone in this game is a detective.
Usually, the main miller mechanic is that the presence of millers puts some doubt on a DT check and people actually have to discuss it. In a game with 30 people and one or two each of detectives and millers, it's pretty unlikely that the miller actually gets targeted with a DT check. (Unless you have a troll host who makes like the best three townies non-self-aware millers, thank you very much BC.)
But, like I said, in this game everyone is a detective. I know VTs don't get to actually make DT checks - I guess Zeph wasn't lying when he said he would send everyone in the game a copy of the VT role PM. However, in a setup where everyone is a "detective", I expect that there will be a large number of roles which actually do have DT checks. This means that it's much more likely than normal for a miller to get DT checked.
So, it's more important than usual for millers to claim early in this setup. If a non-claimed miller gets DT checked and returns scum, it just fucks with the town and could potentially waste an entire day's lynch. It's much better for the millers to claim on day 1 and then show they're town through their behavior. Like I said before, people claiming miller after day 1 are actively playing anti-town and should be destroyed.
So finally, what should this mean for the town and for me? Well, it obviously puts an onus on me to show I'm town through my play. That's fine, I'm going to do my best to live up to that. It is a very exciting time for my experiment, but I can and will post as much as I can from work, as well as both before and after work. I'm also going to do my best to find scum (although historically I tend to be more successful at judging other peoples' cases and less at making my own, but that's why we have other players to judge my cases as well).
For the rest of the town - it means you have to think critically about what I say. Am I pushing scum objectives? If so, lynch me. Am I promoting useful discussion that gets info out into the thread, or am I promoting trolling, spam, and ragefests? If any of the latter, lynch me. Are my cases good or bad? If they're bad, don't lynch me - bad cases =\= scum. Just tell me why you think they're bad, and see how I respond.
It also means you have to think critically about what other people are saying about me. Putting myself out as a miller should naturally draw attention to me, and that's something scum could try and piggy-back or bandwagon on. If people say I'm scum, think critically about their cases and their motivations.
So let's go town!
PRE-EDIT: I should be a little bit more specific. I don't know whether checks on me will return scum or town - all I'm told is that some checks on me will return scum instead of town. I speculate that there are different types of DT check in this game and I am only a miller to some of them - maybe L has special DT powers, and one of their advantages is that they are immune to some or all millers? I also don't know whether it's likely to have more than one or two millers in such a small setup, but having a lot of DT power roles could mean we have more millers than normal. If there are other self-aware millers, they should claim asap as well, or else never claim at all.
PRE-EDIT TWO: I AM IN EUROPE. This means I will be asleep for deadline; it's at 4:30AM my time. I'll do my best to compensate for this during the days here.See any similarities? I wasn't going to say anything, though, because I wanted to see whether a save attempt would come, and guess what? Come it did. Had it built any real steam I would have pointed this out and we would have gotten the sab lynch. Now we have scum who tripped over themselves to try and save the traitor. I'm not even convinced there wasn't a scum guy on sab waiting for one of us to unvote sab so they could come in and be "convinced" as well. I think the clear lynch is going to be among the list of people who were trying to save sab, though. What makes you think the scumteam would want to *save* a possible traitor? I can't even tell if this is a real question or not. This is a real question. Let's say scumteam saves a traitor by going all out and all voting for an innocent townie. Townie flips green. Wouldn't the town then proceed to lynch the traitor the next day, and the proceed to lynch the rest of the scumteam for that? Now think about it this way: scum always needs to build towncred. But building towncred via bussing means sacrificing a contributing scum member. Instead, why not sacrifice a traitor whom the team can't communicate with, and whom the town already suspects?
You're neglecting the fact that at this point in the game there's still a lot more town than scum. In anything like this split vote you're going to have townies on both sides. This gives scum the chance to screw things up, and having sab's extra vote at that point is really good. Also, how does the person they swap to flipping green confirm sab as traitor? I was convinced he was a traitor because of what I found, but how would a town flip that confirm him to YOU?
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EBWOP: You also seem to know a lot about what scum "would" do in that situation. "Oh, if I was scum this is what I'd do, but I'm not, I'm just saying that's what I WOULD do." Are you OJ Simpson? Wtf.
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On September 02 2012 11:24 Shady Sands wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 11:21 Risen wrote:On September 02 2012 11:20 Shady Sands wrote:On September 02 2012 11:17 Risen wrote:If I can find something that tells me sab is traitor, that means anyone else can as well. I swear I'm the only one who puts effort into these games. From a game I watched called Bureaucracy. The second I saw HiroPro call sab out for lying/inconsistency I reread sab's filter and the green red thing clicked in my mind so I searched for traitor in the TL search bar. Lo and behold. + Show Spoiler +On July 22 2012 14:05 slOosh wrote:Awesome on two counts! I am a Crazed Employee - basically a delayed 1 shot vig, and I targetted Foolishness last night. As you know I've been spending a majority of my time figuring him out and was wavering because he had a good case on BM which I agree with, yet chose to do exactly that a case on BM. I was torn on trying to figure out meta and trusting people's reads, but VE's grilling brought out cold hard, in-thread contradictions that I understand and trust. Probulous I'm assuming is some sort of kingmaker (?) - and he made VE king to lynch BH. Prob has also said that Chezinu is some sort of rolecop: Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 10:47 Probulous wrote:
Time to read that Ole foolish filter. I don't think Chez is scum. He worked out my role but never outed it. I think he can check the names of roles because he correctly emphasised the first three letters of mine to me and only me. Prob is it clear from your role name what your ability is? Because from a minion perspective, the knowledge of someone's role is hard to use - even if you knew someone was blue you can only submit the name to CEO kill list, and outting something like that isn't a town thing to do in the first place. But I also thought he was some sort of messenger role? Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 03:23 VisceraEyes wrote:On July 22 2012 02:20 Palmar wrote:
I haven't caught up since last night. Did Chez ever claim messenger role? The way Chez does, yes. And he sent me a message so... I forgot who said it (was quite recently) that scum and town may have mirror/similar abilities. Sandroba was a clear instance of a town messenger - use ability to find out scum. Chezinu or whoever is sending seems like they are sending messages of confusion (house of Chezinu etc.). In any case I still have to do more rereading & filtering in light of the new information influx. Lastly, I think that the traitorous employee should claim. As I understand it it's like a self-aware miller who wins with town but numbers count with scum. Since mafia have to kill all town they are torn having a "confirmed town" alive and wasting their 1 KP on a useless kill (doesn't count to their wincon), and have lost their means of instantly killing him, plus the possible additional benefits of seeing scum strategies and redacted knowledge through outed PMs can be huge. On August 31 2012 17:27 strongandbig wrote:
Good morning, everyone!
So I've been reading some discussion about this from past games, and I've decided to come forth and claim. I am a self-aware miller.
I'm going to use this post to explain myself and my claim. Hopefully I'll do it well, but I'll also do my best to respond to questions, as well as just to establish my townieness through my play.
So first off, why claim now?
Well, it's clearly now or never. Millers claiming after they're checked are completely useless - in fact, they're worse than useless since they give actual scum cover to hide and potentially waste a lynch.
Second, why claim at all? Well, the main reason is that everyone in this game is a detective.
Usually, the main miller mechanic is that the presence of millers puts some doubt on a DT check and people actually have to discuss it. In a game with 30 people and one or two each of detectives and millers, it's pretty unlikely that the miller actually gets targeted with a DT check. (Unless you have a troll host who makes like the best three townies non-self-aware millers, thank you very much BC.)
But, like I said, in this game everyone is a detective. I know VTs don't get to actually make DT checks - I guess Zeph wasn't lying when he said he would send everyone in the game a copy of the VT role PM. However, in a setup where everyone is a "detective", I expect that there will be a large number of roles which actually do have DT checks. This means that it's much more likely than normal for a miller to get DT checked.
So, it's more important than usual for millers to claim early in this setup. If a non-claimed miller gets DT checked and returns scum, it just fucks with the town and could potentially waste an entire day's lynch. It's much better for the millers to claim on day 1 and then show they're town through their behavior. Like I said before, people claiming miller after day 1 are actively playing anti-town and should be destroyed.
So finally, what should this mean for the town and for me? Well, it obviously puts an onus on me to show I'm town through my play. That's fine, I'm going to do my best to live up to that. It is a very exciting time for my experiment, but I can and will post as much as I can from work, as well as both before and after work. I'm also going to do my best to find scum (although historically I tend to be more successful at judging other peoples' cases and less at making my own, but that's why we have other players to judge my cases as well).
For the rest of the town - it means you have to think critically about what I say. Am I pushing scum objectives? If so, lynch me. Am I promoting useful discussion that gets info out into the thread, or am I promoting trolling, spam, and ragefests? If any of the latter, lynch me. Are my cases good or bad? If they're bad, don't lynch me - bad cases =\= scum. Just tell me why you think they're bad, and see how I respond.
It also means you have to think critically about what other people are saying about me. Putting myself out as a miller should naturally draw attention to me, and that's something scum could try and piggy-back or bandwagon on. If people say I'm scum, think critically about their cases and their motivations.
So let's go town!
PRE-EDIT: I should be a little bit more specific. I don't know whether checks on me will return scum or town - all I'm told is that some checks on me will return scum instead of town. I speculate that there are different types of DT check in this game and I am only a miller to some of them - maybe L has special DT powers, and one of their advantages is that they are immune to some or all millers? I also don't know whether it's likely to have more than one or two millers in such a small setup, but having a lot of DT power roles could mean we have more millers than normal. If there are other self-aware millers, they should claim asap as well, or else never claim at all.
PRE-EDIT TWO: I AM IN EUROPE. This means I will be asleep for deadline; it's at 4:30AM my time. I'll do my best to compensate for this during the days here.See any similarities? I wasn't going to say anything, though, because I wanted to see whether a save attempt would come, and guess what? Come it did. Had it built any real steam I would have pointed this out and we would have gotten the sab lynch. Now we have scum who tripped over themselves to try and save the traitor. I'm not even convinced there wasn't a scum guy on sab waiting for one of us to unvote sab so they could come in and be "convinced" as well. I think the clear lynch is going to be among the list of people who were trying to save sab, though. What makes you think the scumteam would want to *save* a possible traitor? I can't even tell if this is a real question or not. This is a real question. Let's say scumteam saves a traitor by going all out and all voting for an innocent townie. Townie flips green. Wouldn't the town then proceed to lynch the traitor the next day, and the proceed to lynch the rest of the scumteam for that? Now think about it this way: scum always needs to build towncred. But building towncred via bussing means sacrificing a contributing scum member. Instead, why not sacrifice a traitor whom the team can't communicate with, and whom the town already suspects?
Well, for starters, it's entirely possible that s&b was, in fact, communicating with the scum team.
Every cycle, you can check a player by PMing all hosts. If that player is Kira, you gain rights to communicate with him and his allies. If that player is the Head Investigator, however, he will be notified that you were stalking him.
It's also possible (though less likely) that Kira had some method of checking if someone is a traitor, which the claim would've baited out quickly.
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On September 02 2012 11:29 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 11:24 Shady Sands wrote:On September 02 2012 11:21 Risen wrote:On September 02 2012 11:20 Shady Sands wrote:On September 02 2012 11:17 Risen wrote:If I can find something that tells me sab is traitor, that means anyone else can as well. I swear I'm the only one who puts effort into these games. From a game I watched called Bureaucracy. The second I saw HiroPro call sab out for lying/inconsistency I reread sab's filter and the green red thing clicked in my mind so I searched for traitor in the TL search bar. Lo and behold. + Show Spoiler +On July 22 2012 14:05 slOosh wrote:Awesome on two counts! I am a Crazed Employee - basically a delayed 1 shot vig, and I targetted Foolishness last night. As you know I've been spending a majority of my time figuring him out and was wavering because he had a good case on BM which I agree with, yet chose to do exactly that a case on BM. I was torn on trying to figure out meta and trusting people's reads, but VE's grilling brought out cold hard, in-thread contradictions that I understand and trust. Probulous I'm assuming is some sort of kingmaker (?) - and he made VE king to lynch BH. Prob has also said that Chezinu is some sort of rolecop: Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 10:47 Probulous wrote:
Time to read that Ole foolish filter. I don't think Chez is scum. He worked out my role but never outed it. I think he can check the names of roles because he correctly emphasised the first three letters of mine to me and only me. Prob is it clear from your role name what your ability is? Because from a minion perspective, the knowledge of someone's role is hard to use - even if you knew someone was blue you can only submit the name to CEO kill list, and outting something like that isn't a town thing to do in the first place. But I also thought he was some sort of messenger role? Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 03:23 VisceraEyes wrote:On July 22 2012 02:20 Palmar wrote:
I haven't caught up since last night. Did Chez ever claim messenger role? The way Chez does, yes. And he sent me a message so... I forgot who said it (was quite recently) that scum and town may have mirror/similar abilities. Sandroba was a clear instance of a town messenger - use ability to find out scum. Chezinu or whoever is sending seems like they are sending messages of confusion (house of Chezinu etc.). In any case I still have to do more rereading & filtering in light of the new information influx. Lastly, I think that the traitorous employee should claim. As I understand it it's like a self-aware miller who wins with town but numbers count with scum. Since mafia have to kill all town they are torn having a "confirmed town" alive and wasting their 1 KP on a useless kill (doesn't count to their wincon), and have lost their means of instantly killing him, plus the possible additional benefits of seeing scum strategies and redacted knowledge through outed PMs can be huge. On August 31 2012 17:27 strongandbig wrote:
Good morning, everyone!
So I've been reading some discussion about this from past games, and I've decided to come forth and claim. I am a self-aware miller.
I'm going to use this post to explain myself and my claim. Hopefully I'll do it well, but I'll also do my best to respond to questions, as well as just to establish my townieness through my play.
So first off, why claim now?
Well, it's clearly now or never. Millers claiming after they're checked are completely useless - in fact, they're worse than useless since they give actual scum cover to hide and potentially waste a lynch.
Second, why claim at all? Well, the main reason is that everyone in this game is a detective.
Usually, the main miller mechanic is that the presence of millers puts some doubt on a DT check and people actually have to discuss it. In a game with 30 people and one or two each of detectives and millers, it's pretty unlikely that the miller actually gets targeted with a DT check. (Unless you have a troll host who makes like the best three townies non-self-aware millers, thank you very much BC.)
But, like I said, in this game everyone is a detective. I know VTs don't get to actually make DT checks - I guess Zeph wasn't lying when he said he would send everyone in the game a copy of the VT role PM. However, in a setup where everyone is a "detective", I expect that there will be a large number of roles which actually do have DT checks. This means that it's much more likely than normal for a miller to get DT checked.
So, it's more important than usual for millers to claim early in this setup. If a non-claimed miller gets DT checked and returns scum, it just fucks with the town and could potentially waste an entire day's lynch. It's much better for the millers to claim on day 1 and then show they're town through their behavior. Like I said before, people claiming miller after day 1 are actively playing anti-town and should be destroyed.
So finally, what should this mean for the town and for me? Well, it obviously puts an onus on me to show I'm town through my play. That's fine, I'm going to do my best to live up to that. It is a very exciting time for my experiment, but I can and will post as much as I can from work, as well as both before and after work. I'm also going to do my best to find scum (although historically I tend to be more successful at judging other peoples' cases and less at making my own, but that's why we have other players to judge my cases as well).
For the rest of the town - it means you have to think critically about what I say. Am I pushing scum objectives? If so, lynch me. Am I promoting useful discussion that gets info out into the thread, or am I promoting trolling, spam, and ragefests? If any of the latter, lynch me. Are my cases good or bad? If they're bad, don't lynch me - bad cases =\= scum. Just tell me why you think they're bad, and see how I respond.
It also means you have to think critically about what other people are saying about me. Putting myself out as a miller should naturally draw attention to me, and that's something scum could try and piggy-back or bandwagon on. If people say I'm scum, think critically about their cases and their motivations.
So let's go town!
PRE-EDIT: I should be a little bit more specific. I don't know whether checks on me will return scum or town - all I'm told is that some checks on me will return scum instead of town. I speculate that there are different types of DT check in this game and I am only a miller to some of them - maybe L has special DT powers, and one of their advantages is that they are immune to some or all millers? I also don't know whether it's likely to have more than one or two millers in such a small setup, but having a lot of DT power roles could mean we have more millers than normal. If there are other self-aware millers, they should claim asap as well, or else never claim at all.
PRE-EDIT TWO: I AM IN EUROPE. This means I will be asleep for deadline; it's at 4:30AM my time. I'll do my best to compensate for this during the days here.See any similarities? I wasn't going to say anything, though, because I wanted to see whether a save attempt would come, and guess what? Come it did. Had it built any real steam I would have pointed this out and we would have gotten the sab lynch. Now we have scum who tripped over themselves to try and save the traitor. I'm not even convinced there wasn't a scum guy on sab waiting for one of us to unvote sab so they could come in and be "convinced" as well. I think the clear lynch is going to be among the list of people who were trying to save sab, though. What makes you think the scumteam would want to *save* a possible traitor? I can't even tell if this is a real question or not. This is a real question. Let's say scumteam saves a traitor by going all out and all voting for an innocent townie. Townie flips green. Wouldn't the town then proceed to lynch the traitor the next day, and the proceed to lynch the rest of the scumteam for that? Now think about it this way: scum always needs to build towncred. But building towncred via bussing means sacrificing a contributing scum member. Instead, why not sacrifice a traitor whom the team can't communicate with, and whom the town already suspects? You're neglecting the fact that at this point in the game there's still a lot more town than scum. In anything like this split vote you're going to have townies on both sides. This gives scum the chance to screw things up, and having sab's extra vote at that point is really good. Also, how does the person they swap to flipping green confirm sab as traitor? I was convinced he was a traitor because of what I found, but how would a town flip that confirm him to YOU?
By the existence of the last minute wagon. I'd find that highly suspicious and vote against it the next day. The fact that people were acting in concert to get a townie lynched would read as a giant scumtell to me.
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Wtf? You were ON THAT WAGON. Am I the only one who sees this disconnect?
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On September 02 2012 11:34 Risen wrote:
Wtf? You were ON THAT WAGON. Am I the only one who sees this disconnect?
Is HiroPro confirmed town? IF NOT, THEN HOW WAS I ON A WAGON TO GET A TOWNIE LYNCHED?
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ebwop should read Ghost_403 in the sentence above.
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On September 02 2012 11:35 Shady Sands wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 11:34 Risen wrote:
Wtf? You were ON THAT WAGON. Am I the only one who sees this disconnect? Is HiroPro confirmed town? IF NOT, THEN HOW WAS I ON A WAGON TO GET A TOWNIE LYNCHED?
You were on a wagon that would have saved a traitor. D1 Palmar, though trollsy as fuck is still confirmed town, says ghost is his town read. D2 he's one of the top lynch candidates. You think both lynch candidates were scum? (I'm asking if you still think ghost is scum, weird slip with hiropro and ghost, though. Is hiropro a scum partner?)
All three of those add to Ghost being a bad lynch candidate, in my mind. Am I using information we've gained POST FLIP to make that judgement? Yes.
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EBWOP: There aren't many cases in the world that would convince me not to vote for someone who was trying to save sab.
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On September 02 2012 11:42 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 11:35 Shady Sands wrote:On September 02 2012 11:34 Risen wrote:
Wtf? You were ON THAT WAGON. Am I the only one who sees this disconnect? Is HiroPro confirmed town? IF NOT, THEN HOW WAS I ON A WAGON TO GET A TOWNIE LYNCHED? You were on a wagon that would have saved a traitor. D1 Palmar, though trollsy as fuck is still confirmed town, says ghost is his town read. D2 he's one of the top lynch candidates. You think both lynch candidates were scum? (I'm asking if you still think ghost is scum, weird slip with hiropro and ghost, though. Is hiropro a scum partner?) All three of those add to Ghost being a bad lynch candidate, in my mind. Am I using information we've gained POST FLIP to make that judgement? Yes.
Christ, when was I trying to save SaB? I was trying to get my top scumread lynched. This is what I wrote, just fyi:
This isn't about saving SaB, it's about lynching someone for their play as opposed to a claim/fakeclaim. Ghost has been playing like a scum for most of D1/D2. The one time he tried to present independent casework, it was a simple repeat of what Hapa had already written. Other times, he just sheeps people and votes without any justifications at all.
Hint, I wrote this pre-flip.
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Going for your top scum read and saving sab line up quite nicely. This conversation is going nowhere.
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On September 02 2012 12:21 Risen wrote:
Going for your top scum read and saving sab line up quite nicely. This conversation is going nowhere.
So basically you're going to assume that any voting for someone other than SaB is a scumtell? Wow.
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Hiro, there's something awfully poetic about us (mostly you of course) getting s&b lynched.
Now to work out what's happening with the two children pissing at each other for the last page.
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GG 
gogo Kira
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BOOOOOOOM!!! ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/C5Z80.jpg)
Risen was on the toilet. Which is not that unusual, as everyone has to follow the needs of their bladder.
What made it extraordinary were the weird sounds from his neighboring cabin into which he had seen Mememtoss run earlier.
Mementoss's bladder was causing him some serious issues. Since the day he had been called into this special taskforce, ordered with the identification of Kira, he had been unable to really relax. Unfortunately for him this anxiety gave him a rather hard case of constipation....
As he sat on the toilet seat and tried to battle his body for yet another day, it felt rather different than before. It had been a sense of uneasiness the days before but now it was as if he was totally blocked. Another point of worry for him was that the urge to poop had become almost irresistable,
"Uaaah..." Mementoss tried to summon his strength in this battle between a unstoppable force and an inmovable object but it was no use.
The flush from the Risen's cabin sounded and Mementoss heard him knocking on his door.
"Hey Mementoss, are you alright?" Risen asked, "you sound like having some major issues..."
Panting Memtoss responded: "I am...fine...really...just let me take my time,...No worries....Hrrrrnnnngh...."
Risen shrugged, washed his hands and left the lavatories in order to return to his desk. Exchanging some words with HiroPro about the mental state of the poor sod Solar Sail and the shootout with Strongandbig earlier they were rudely interrupted as the sound of an explosion got their attention.
HiroPro narrowed his eyes, "That come from the toilets, wasn't Mementoss still inside?"
Glancing at his colleague, Risen nodded and together they hurried to the source of the explosion. The power of it had catapulted the door out of it's hinges, but the sight of what lay beyond was the most horrible they had witnessed in their whole lives.
The entire room was still smoking and a terrible stench was starting to spread, all the furniture had been blasted to the walls, together with a brownish mass, which both did not dare to look closer at. Pandemonium reigned as all kinds of waterpipes had been trashed. In the center of it all were the disfigured remains of Mementoss, with a toxic green cloud emanating from them.
Mementoss - the Detective has exploded in a most disgusting fashion!
+ Show Spoiler [Role PM] +You are a Detective! You are one of the best detectives in the world and you have been invited to solve the mystery of the century: the Kira case.
According to the anonymous-best-detective-ever, Head Investigator L, Kira is a real person and is hiding between you. Your job is to find and eliminate him. You win when all threats to the Detectives(and the world) are eliminated.
Remember there are NO clues within the flavor!
9 Players are still alive!
Deadline is 02:30 GMT (+00:00)!
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Ok, couple of things.
fuba, your vote was parked absolultely uselessly on Shady yesterday. Especially as you called s&b scum as well. That's really really really weak, bad play. I was going to make a thing of it, but while re-reading I also found this:
On September 02 2012 06:14 mkfuba07 wrote:
Posting this really quick in the hopes that MMToss will be able to read it before he leaves. I always think over my posts too long before posting, and this shit happens.
@Mementoss:
What would you have said if ghost didn't say anything today except "I've got stuff to do so I won't be here today. I vote snb for <insert reasons here>."? I understand that these are two extremes, but ghost mentioned before that he was going to be afk most of Saturday, and as I see it what he's done is the best way for him to contribute if he can only be here shortly. He's given us what insight he can from the first day or so, and at the very least this gives us a lot of information to hold him to when he returns. If he decides to launch an attack on marv because of a potential SnB mislynch, he'll have to explain how he went from a slight town read to a scum read.
I feel like I know more about him than I know about you. Your first case against Shady was dropped, apparently, simply because he agreed with you about ghost. What are your current thoughts on Shady? You seemed pretty sure about his scumminess before, but a similar shared read on a third party was able to sway your view that much?
Shady is looking scummier to me. He seems particularly adamant about looking at bandwagoners, but said nothing about those who bandwagoned onto Palmar. That was the most suspicious case, as there was very little reasoning behind it and the target has actually flipped town. Who has he accused? The MMToss bandwagon: ghost, Palmar(town), BMB (town), mkfuba(town, but don't take my word for it), and HiroPro. He went so far as to say that the three of us who are still alive are a scumteam based on this unflipped bandwagon. He was so sure of our guilt when our target hasn't flipped yet, but shows no suspicion towards those on the Palmar bandwagon, a far more suspicious case. He then skips right over that bandwagon and accuses those who are voting for SnB despite there being an extremely viable reason for voting for him. It's true that both HiroPro and ghost_403 have voted for SnB, and they appear to have been his greatest suspicions D1. However, he completely ignores the ridiculous bandwagon on Palmar, who we actually know was a mislynch. There were reasons to vote for MMToss. There are reasons to vote for SnB. There were practically no reasons to vote for Palmar, and this is the bandwagon he ignores in his hunting.
##Vote Shady Sands
fuba makes some good points on Shady but it was buried at the time.
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and Messages! I am now L's right hand dudette.
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also good lord, I totally managed to miss that death :/
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as I'm totally alone here right now
"holy shit"
*sunglasses*
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⌐(■_■) Holy shit.
YEAAAAAAHHHHHH
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