Normal Mini Mafia III

Shady Sands - I know him as an aggressive but sometimes misguided town member who was unafraid to go after people no matter what. It's possible he's changed his MO a bit now that he's swimming with the big sharks.

Do you think there is no reason to be looking at the players at the moment?

If the day was ending today, who would you vote, and why?

This is Shady claiming scum everyone, please take note and vote accordingly.

This was before you entered the thread. So you're either not reading the thread (my guess) or you're blatantly and maliciously misrepresenting the facts. Which is it Shady?

So you're either not reading the thread (my guess) or you're blatantly and maliciously misrepresenting the facts.

On August 23 2012 06:54 VisceraEyes wrote:


AH, the CRUX.

In asking if I have a history of "successfully reading scum D1", ven if I have 100% accuracy in the past, this is completely meaningless unless you are operating under the premise that I'm town and am READING Shady. It shows his true thoughts on me (that I'm town) hiding beneath his actions (his vote, the questions, the ruse) and betrays preexisting knowledge of my alignment.

Chez, you truly are inspirational.

##Unvote
##Vote Lvdr

He's wondering if I'm "reading you accurately" while voting me. He's SAYING he thinks I'm scum, but he slips my alignment in asking if I'm "reading you accurately"...which is something only town can do (scum don't read anyone, they know everyone's alignment).

On August 23 2012 10:41 Bluelightz wrote:


Your attacking me too, start by explaining the bullshit in your first post please.

I only have town reads to give right now.

On August 24 2012 08:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
He can't be bothered to defend himself, I'm not going to do it for him. I don't understand why you think this is some big thing. It's really not. You haven't offered any explanation as to why Obvious is town, yet you accuse me of not trying to defend MY townread? Get outta here sir.

Just got Internet access. Gj on your engineered mislynch on the easy one. Obvious scum, my ass.

On August 25 2012 12:55 iamperfection wrote:
We finish what we should have done yesterday.

## Vote Bluelightz

He hasent changed anything and then attempts to make a case on the god damn troll? Screw that the chezinu case seems to be just a hollow attempt to feign scum hunting. It reads as simply going the safe avenue to me. BLuelightz will spill red blood. Vote for this guy.

On August 26 2012 20:35 Shady Sands wrote:


This point is a classic WIFOM slip.

You think chez is engaged. But you don't know since he's trolly. You cite an anecdote from another player in another game who was trolly and flipped scum. You don't know why he voted for you and subtly criticize his troll logic for doing so. And then you finish that part by asking for a vigi shot... on who? Chez for being trolly? Or you?

You don't even address any of the other cases on yourself except by saying that you've talked yourself into a scum-read. You just address Chez's case, and even then, only implicitly, because Chez's case is the weakest.

On Talis: Both points you cite regarding Talis are clear scumtells. Low content, lurky behavior. But somehow not "downright scummy." Then you cite his largest post as an example of active scumming. Then you say he is a null read. What?

This entire post is an attempt to look active without committing to reads. This is a huge scumtell.

Town, if you still haven't made up your minds about Lvdr yet, the above should be a clear reason to vote for a lynch on him.

Your Talis read is basically null and you never changed it prior to voting him. Hence no read there, yet you wound up voting him

You had no reads on anyone except on VE all through D1, which never really got anywhere. You wound up sheeping to Obvious

# Somehow you loudly claim you had scumreads on multiple people, but a check of your filter doesn't find them there (until Milton hammered you, lol.)
# Your behavior was much, much higher in the game where you were town. You put out 4 cases in the span of 1 day there, and actively led a last minute lynch wagon on a single person. You also proceeded to tunnel that person across 2 whole in-game days to secure a lynch there. By contrast, in this game, you pushed a weak case on VE, then sheeped Marv, then pushed a weak case on Talis, after sheeping Marv, then revoted Talis once there was a no-lynch on the basis of your non-existent prior scum read on him.

No one is nit-picking anything here, Lvdr. These are holes big enough to drive a truck through, and when added together they form a damning picture of guilt.