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PTP3 - Pikachu's Revenge

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HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 09 2012 22:11 GMT
#15
/in
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 10 2012 14:50 GMT
#31
/out
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 15 2012 23:47 GMT
#155
Does anyone want to hydra? I wont have much time this weekend, otherwise I would join.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 16 2012 00:44 GMT
#157
/in

Actually I'll have time I realized. The first 24 hours will just be role picking right?
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 17 2012 12:44 GMT
#194
After when are we allowed to talk about the role we made?
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 17 2012 14:53 GMT
#197
Well I looked through PTP I and I think they weren't allowed to discuss anything about the role they made until day 2 or something like that.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 14:58:46
August 17 2012 14:56 GMT
#199
/in

I think you missed me deconduo.

Edit: I think you missed bumatlarge also.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 19 2012 22:57 GMT
#258
lol, it's ptp. half the people in this game probably have kp
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 20 2012 00:55 GMT
#330
wiggles and kita trying too hard

grush leaving us all
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 20 2012 16:33 GMT
#385
On August 20 2012 23:07 Toadesstern wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

Thoughts on blasting Kurumi instead?
Check out the following conversation for a sec:


On August 20 2012 08:47 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 08:44 kitaman27 wrote:
On August 20 2012 07:49 Kenpachi wrote:
hi guys im Kenpachi and im Town


On August 20 2012 08:13 grush57 wrote:
Hey.
I'm town with blue.


On August 20 2012 08:23 wherebugsgo wrote:
Hi all. I am town.


Hey look, a bunch of individuals are clearly breadcrumbing the town role pm! How clever!

But wait a minute, everyone knows this is against the rules.

So what are the odds that the mafia team also has the town role pm or happened to pick up on the crumb and has decided to use it gain town cred? Sneaky sneaky!

Lynch bugs first?

Nah dont care about this , these are useless posts for the sake of posting (I know ...)

On August 20 2012 08:48 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 08:47 Kurumi wrote:
On August 20 2012 08:44 kitaman27 wrote:
On August 20 2012 07:49 Kenpachi wrote:
hi guys im Kenpachi and im Town


On August 20 2012 08:13 grush57 wrote:
Hey.
I'm town with blue.


On August 20 2012 08:23 wherebugsgo wrote:
Hi all. I am town.


Hey look, a bunch of individuals are clearly breadcrumbing the town role pm! How clever!

But wait a minute, everyone knows this is against the rules.

So what are the odds that the mafia team also has the town role pm or happened to pick up on the crumb and has decided to use it gain town cred? Sneaky sneaky!

Lynch bugs first?

Nah dont care about this , these are useless posts for the sake of posting (I know ...)

Isn't that what we was doing other than beginning to create a genuine dislike for Toad?


On August 20 2012 08:51 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 08:48 Drazerk wrote:
On August 20 2012 08:47 Kurumi wrote:
On August 20 2012 08:44 kitaman27 wrote:
On August 20 2012 07:49 Kenpachi wrote:
hi guys im Kenpachi and im Town


On August 20 2012 08:13 grush57 wrote:
Hey.
I'm town with blue.


On August 20 2012 08:23 wherebugsgo wrote:
Hi all. I am town.


Hey look, a bunch of individuals are clearly breadcrumbing the town role pm! How clever!

But wait a minute, everyone knows this is against the rules.

So what are the odds that the mafia team also has the town role pm or happened to pick up on the crumb and has decided to use it gain town cred? Sneaky sneaky!

Lynch bugs first?

Nah dont care about this , these are useless posts for the sake of posting (I know ...)

Isn't that what we was doing other than beginning to create a genuine dislike for Toad?

I just like posting. Especially when I am not feeling like sleeping. Yo Grush wynaut post videos and text?


1) Is basicly the reason why I kept saying I want to hurt Drazerk with a pointy stick. He kept on posting for the sake of posting. Fine we're still on day-1 but he's overdoing it a lot. If what he's doing is acceptable as contribution than mafia will have an easy time blending in doing bullshit posts like his.
I consider this post Kurumi did to be incredible hypocrytical btw.

2) Is Drazerk acknowledging the fact that he / they're both posting for the sake of posting, which is weird to say the least, but that's besides the point right now.

3) is the really important one. Kurumi states "I just like posting.". That's incredible defensive. I would understand this if someone else were to accuse him like "dude, you're totally posting for the sake of posting and nothing else, that's scummy!" but there was no such thing.
Drazerk got in the thread acknowledging that both Kurumi and he HIMSELF did that. If that was suppossed to be criticism Drazerk criticised himself with that post as well, which I consider to be pretty unlikely so to me it just read as some random bullshit.
To Kurumi however it apparently reads as sincere attack and he felt the need to explaining his actions.

Why so defensive Kurumi?


On August 20 2012 10:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
What people should instead be concentrating is scum and people trying to push scumish ideas. As Kurumi made the statement of role cops being the best form of cop he is obviously scum.


You think this is legit, Toad?
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 20 2012 22:02 GMT
#451
On August 21 2012 06:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
Grush has never been interested in playing a game of Mafia that I've ever played in with him. I want him out of my town.

##Vote: grush


Since when do you believe in lynching people because they're useless, VE?
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 20 2012 22:12 GMT
#457
On August 21 2012 07:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
There's useless and there's maliciously useless. I've never encountered someone with as little respect for his fellow players as grush, so I've never really been in a position to PL this kind of player before. Time and again grush proves that he's not only not interested in reading the thread, but he's also not interested in even posting coherently about the stuff he DOES read (which is generally the page of and prior to the latest post).

No, I'm done playing with grush until he can prove he's gonna actually play the game.


Explain to me how someone who's temp banned can "prove they're actually playing the game".
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 21 2012 00:43 GMT
#500
On August 21 2012 07:39 imallinson wrote:
I've been out all day so I apologise for not posting earlier.

One thing I noticed, between the spam, is a hell of a lot of role discussion, talk about kp, etc. I think everyone has missed a very important point in all this. These are pokemon we are dealing with and last I checked most of them have more than one power. Because this is PTP it wouldn't surprise me if most people did have more than one power. Add to that the fact that all the role talk has been about standard mafia roles it seems like no one is really thinking outside the box on the roles. The real question is do they think it's the case a not talking about it for strategic reasons. I'm not a fan of misdirection in mafia from a town perspective because it normally only serves to make scum hunting harder.


On August 21 2012 08:20 imallinson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 08:12 Mementoss wrote:
On August 21 2012 08:09 imallinson wrote:
On August 21 2012 07:44 Hopeless1der wrote:
On August 21 2012 07:39 imallinson wrote:
I've been out all day so I apologise for not posting earlier.

One thing I noticed, between the spam, is a hell of a lot of role discussion, talk about kp, etc. I think everyone has missed a very important point in all this. These are pokemon we are dealing with and last I checked most of them have more than one power. Because this is PTP it wouldn't surprise me if most people did have more than one power. Add to that the fact that all the role talk has been about standard mafia roles it seems like no one is really thinking outside the box on the roles. The real question is do they think it's the case a not talking about it for strategic reasons. I'm not a fan of misdirection in mafia from a town perspective because it normally only serves to make scum hunting harder.


Most roles can be equated to standard mafia roles.

You can deal KP? Your a vig role.
You can protect? medic role.
You can edit your posts? Okay, this one doesn't exist.

Short of everyone claiming what role they created (Which might be useful, but a great way for scum to fuck with us), we have to use terms that everyone else will understand. Once we get through a round of Night actions, (assuming decon\greymist use the ability names) we'd be able to refer to specifics.


I didn't really mean calling roles different names just because of PTP. I'm perfectly fine calling KP role vig, protect role medic and so on. I'm talking about roles that would never be in a normal game of mafia and thus don't have a standard name. I'm pretty the role I created doesn't fit into any normal mafia role and I'm sure there a lot of other cases like that.

As for role calling I think it's a terrible idea, especially in PTP because you can make up a fake role for yourself just as easily as the role you created for someone else.

I do agree with you that things should become clearer after night 1 because we will at least get some info on the roles that are in play.


But how do your thoughts on roles and PTP mechanics help us catch scum?


It doesn't really, I'm just pointing out a big missing piece in all the role talk so far. Honestly I don't think role talk day 1 will be helpful in this set up.


On August 21 2012 09:18 imallinson wrote:
I guess what need weighing up with regards to a Grush lynch is would lynching anyone else give us more info?


imallinson is scum. He brings up the point that people aren't thinking "outside the box" when it comes to roles and spends most of his time discussing other things related to roles. However, later he says that day 1 role talk isn't helpful in finding scum.

His biggest thing about the grush lynch isn't whether or not grush is scum, but what kind of information can be gotten from the lynch.

Additionally, look at how apologetic and unsure his posting is. He's practically scared of saying anything.

##Vote imallinson
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 21 2012 00:44 GMT
#501
bugs ninjaing me
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 21 2012 03:35 GMT
#522
Mementoss, your thoughts on allin?
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 21 2012 18:03 GMT
#641
On August 21 2012 21:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
I can kill Zephirdd too, honestly. His filter consists mostly of setup speculation, but this doesn't bother me as his love of the Pokemans is well documented. What bothers me is this.

Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 08:28 Zephirdd wrote:
How about the "lynch whoever throws KP around randomly"?

Also I am a medic. Go figure.


There are a couple of things he could be doing here: he's either a medic claiming in the worst first post in TL town history, he's a townie who is NOT a medic and is attempting to draw roleblocks/NKs, or he's scum attempting something really profoundly stupid. From a strategic viability standpoint, I certainly HOPE it's the second one, but from a realistic standpoint and given everything else he's done in the thread (read: nothing) I'm inclined to believe that he's actually scum. He's almost certainly not a town medic, and if he is I hope I'm never town with him again.


To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if that's what Zeph is doing, VE. He tried it in Poison as a VT.


Dirk, why is it that you keep characterizing the case on allin as being only on his attitude/disappearance? It's also about the fact that he spent his time discussing stuff which he knew was useless in finding scum and was more concerned about the information that a grush lynch would provide than whether or not he was scum.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 21 2012 18:06 GMT
#645
Hi toad. Why is your vote on someone who's not going to be lynched today? Why have you not talked about any of the actual cases that have been brought up recently?
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 21 2012 18:19 GMT
#652
On August 22 2012 03:13 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 03:06 HiroPro wrote:
Hi toad. Why is your vote on someone who's not going to be lynched today? Why have you not talked about any of the actual cases that have been brought up recently?

Because I'm still undecided so far. I'm just don't really like lynching people I never played with before d1 in general so I don't talk about imallinson at all because I want to have more time to get a proper read on him because I don't know what's "normal" for him and what's not.

I'm sure you'll find my opinion on every other guy that has been mentioned so far as I actually played with most of the people in this game before.
Call a name and I'll copy & paste the quotes but I'm sure you could just search for it yourself.

Am I posting too much so that I'm like gonzaw or are you not reading my posts?


You haven't said anything about Dirkzor either. I know you've played with Zeph before, VE has brought a case.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 21 2012 18:40 GMT
#660
Is JingleHell normally this passive?
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 21 2012 18:44 GMT
#668
Bio, give me your scum reads.
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