PTP3 - Pikachu's Revenge - Page 8

On August 28 2012 00:58 Dirkzor wrote:
Oh and while you're at it why should I claim?

On August 28 2012 01:18 Dirkzor wrote:
And why should I? If I claim or not doesn't help anyone figure out my alignment at all.

On August 28 2012 03:12 Mementoss wrote:
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no discussion who should I vote

On August 28 2012 04:42 Misder wrote:
I have BioSC as my highest scum read atm. I find that he didn't really care about either lynches at all. Also, continuously saying that his scumhunting is bad as a backup.

JingleHell, I've already made a case on. I still don't like his play. The fact that he's not really pushing my lynch besides saying that he wants me dead isn't helping.

Third on the list is Wiggles, although I'm really just sheeping everyone else. I find that his case on BC was actually decent, but if BC was setting him up, then it actually makes sense (BC pretending to be a weak target so that Wiggles, who already lost two scumbuddies, could make a play). Also, his play today isn't that appealing, as I was ready for Wiggles to get all up in my grill after yesterday. But then he talks about inactivity not being inherently scummy and all defense, no offense.

I can see a Dirkzor being scum, but unlike BC, I don't think it really makes sense for Dirkzor to be scum with Wiggles, as it's putting two scum pushing for the same lynch on Day 1, a bit risky I feel.

I also find it a bit suspicious that Zeph is defending me. Gut feeling tells me something is up, but I find his claim pretty townish.

On August 28 2012 04:51 Mementoss wrote:


Why do you want everyone to claim?

On August 28 2012 05:10 Mr. Wiggles wrote:

VE is scum.

Day 1 he came out posting about policy lynching Grush. His reasons were not based on alignment. He put the onus of scumhunting onto other people, telling them it was their responsibility to convince him to lynch someone other than grush. Not convince him that their targets were scummier than grush, because his policy lynch wasn't based on grush being scummy, just that it would be better to try to lynch scum than a random person.

After he was rightfully called out on his posting, VE pulled a 180. Some kind of sentiment that VE was town was created, as he very quickly jumped in between three different targets, with only one of them being somewhat original. What puts me off about this, is how quick of a turn-around it was and how badly it reeked of wanting to appease the people out for his blood. First, VE didn't defend his policy lynch on Grush, he just jumped to accusing other people after being accused. As well, VE didn't just accuse one person and attempt to get them lynched, he made a big show of jumping in-between three different targets and saying that he thought all of them were scum. This looks a lot like he was trying to go, "Hey, look at me! I'm scumhunting!", especially when contrasted with his play earlier. So, it looks as though the sudden spurt in apparent scum hunting and effort was made to avoid pressure, which makes sense, since after Day 1 the pressure dropped and so did the contributions from VE.

After Day 1, the "scumhunting effort" from VE stopped. His play from then on has consisted of sheeping the lynch sentiment against myself and Misder while adding nothing of value to the cases against either of us. As pointed out by others, VE has been making promises of contribution, but has not been keeping them. Notably, making a case against either myself or Misder. As well, he failed to comment on either my case against BC or BC's defense and case against me while BC was alive. VE makes this post:

Saying he will comment on my case. However, even though he was in the thread for the next two or so hours, he never comments directly on the case either by myself or BC, even though he has clearly read them. He avoids taking a side in the conflict between us, which supports VE's general play this game of laying low and avoiding attention, especially if his team was already planning on using their shot on BC.

After BC dies, VE comes back and uses the death of BC to put a vote on me. However, read the post where he did so:

In this post, VE does not make mention of BC having a good case, or even agreeing with the case BC made against me. Instead he insinuates that the death of BC was a result of trying to get me lynched, and uses the fact that BC has flipped town as a point for people to sheep to in support of him. The point of this post isn't to say that BC made a good case and town should lynch for it, it's to try to manipulate people into voting me because BC wanted to. It relies on an appeal to authority and the assumption that because BC was town, he was correct. Coming from a player with as much experience as VE, this isn't a simple mistake in logic. It's an attempt to cash in on an emotional response to BC dying and flipping town to try to push a mislynch.

As for supporting meta, VE usually plays somewhat aggressively and is very outspoken, to the point where he is often lynched early into the game as he forces focus and attention towards himself. This is markedly different from how he has been playing this game, where he has played very passively and avoided attention. This difference could be explained with role considerations giving VE a reason to act as he is, but VE is not playing in a way that he is contributing to the town while maintaining a low profile, he is instead playing in a way that he only does enough to keep people off his back before sinking into passivity again.

Altogether, this makes him scum.

On August 28 2012 05:19 Dirkzor wrote:
Can we kill VE? Go vote him. If he flips town I'll claim, Kurumi can zap me or whatever and you can all call me stupid (more then you otherwise would).

On August 28 2012 05:28 Dirkzor wrote:

Repost because it is still valid.

On August 28 2012 05:44 grush57 wrote:
Sigh I'll get on the VE train

On August 28 2012 05:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not scum. Wiggles is. Sorry for everything everyone.

##Vote: Mr.Wiggles

On August 28 2012 05:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
I killed BC. Would scum tell you that?

On August 28 2012 05:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
Kurumi it means mislynch. Kill Wiggles.

On August 28 2012 05:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
I can - it's why I didn't claim.