PTP3 - Pikachu's Revenge - Page 47
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VisceraEyes
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BloodyC0bbler
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On August 23 2012 10:44 Drazerk wrote: ... You're aware you're speaking to Kenpachi right? ![]() lol, hes not always quite so obvious about it. | ||
Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
On August 23 2012 10:44 VisceraEyes wrote: I would rather kill Dirkzor today. Why | ||
VisceraEyes
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Mementoss
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On August 23 2012 10:52 VisceraEyes wrote: Several reasons, but foremost among them being that in spite of him being the counterwagon to the townie lynch yesterday and his heaping wad of dick he's got in the way of contribution, he seems to have been forgotten about by the majority of players. He's still here guys, and he's still scum. Didn't you say you thought Zeph was more scummy than Dirk and you were only voting Dirk to consolidate to an extent during day 1, what changed about your thoughts on Dirk being more scummier than Zeph?/What are the current thoughts on grushy | ||
VisceraEyes
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Barbiero
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On August 23 2012 09:53 Hopeless1der wrote: As far as I know nothing was done to me last night. I should have had this done for the deadline, had more stuff to do at work than I anticipated. I think zeph is scum due to his seeming activity but lack of scumhunting. His medic claim was just plain strange. How does that really help town at all? It is such a flippant comment. He follows up with Why is he breadcrumbing his ability/pokemon. Again, how could this help town? It seems like he's trying to communicate with whoever created his pokemon for some reason. No one else could really use this information. I don't like it. His filter is full of one liners that don't contribute anything....role speculation and fluff. He rips on kitaman but he doesn't really follow through on the insinuation that kitaman is scum. + Show Spoiler + On August 20 2012 22:06 Zephirdd wrote: Hey I'm rereading! This is PTP. I got med. who knows what comes next. np I'm not VE; I am much cuter. Let me see if I got this right... you noticed the pokealliance is breadcrumbing the role PM and then you decide that it's likely that they are scum and therefore should be lynched...? I know you are banned, but I want to mention how stupid this is. Being so active this early IS a scum trait. It's the time of the day where there is the lowest amount of information and you can always justify whatever happened during this phase as "trolling" or "baiting". I've done that as scum before. Throughout what I've been reading, kitaman looks incredibly annoyed about the whole "coloring town blue" thing. I mean, it's in the OP as people mentioned, and being a PTP every town is blue. Anybody else thinks he got annoyed because he thought that would confirm them as town, and therefore make life a hell for scum? + Show Spoiler [useless stuff for the game] + On August 20 2012 09:34 Kurumi wrote: Shut up you wannabe Zapdos , you are nothing but a common pidgeon with eggs Zephir with double d's, pfffff I now know the meaning of Zephyr. I never knew. I thought Zephirdd was a cool name. TT I've played with drazerk before. I understand what he means. Someone has to shoot him; not early because he is a cool scum bite, but late when we don't want him around lylo. That's how I see it. I'd say grush is pretty much the same. I don't remember Kenpachi ever flipping scum so I don't really care, but he always somehow dies sooner or later for some odd mechanical game-specific reason lol What does grush being banned has to do with anything? If you think he is scum you make a case against him. And it's 42. Finally. You were And Toad, what did that do? Did it do anything at all? >_> Oh Oh Oh is it like I suggested pregame? you use a random ability from any player in the game??? *___* In that entire post, he points out maybe one other thing aside from Kitaman that could be scummy. + Show Spoiler + On August 21 2012 07:23 Zephirdd wrote: Think think THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINK If this is PTP everyone is a power role. When a town player is a power role, what is he? Blue. If a non-town player is PR, what is he? red or black. "unless someone was an asshole and made a vanilla role, everyone is a blue". Of course I am looking for the freaking scum -_- also you are spilling bullshit. You have no attack ability. Shoot me if you do. I dare you I DOUBLE DARE YOU MOTHERF-- anyway I see your point VE. We're lucky CountDropula isn't here, I'd be yelling at any dayvig to shoot him in the balls; However, leave it to after he is unbanned. You can always hope someone will vigi him. On the mewtwo thing... What if I told you A player could have picked for himself? We aren't told which pokemon we are during the pick phase. Whoever is mewtwo could very well have picked for mewtwo himself and then receive the role himself, right? None of that hunts scum. Seems to fake some rage and be emotional for no good reason. + Show Spoiler + On August 21 2012 23:52 Zephirdd wrote: btw imallinson played on newbie mini VIII. I didn't take the time to actually read his posts here because I don't have it, but if you guys want to check it out. He also played on two other games but he had very little amount of posts do I assume he died night1 on both. ##Vote Hopeless1der Until you explain your vote. Or post something useful at all. Reading through Dirkzor/VE interchange, I'm inclined to believe Dirkzor is in a better position contrary to popular belief I guess. Let's look objectively at it from Dirkzor's POV. He first posts this: He isn't wrong here. I don't think that makes VE scum, but that does create some suspicion. Exactly what Dirkzor does. later, VE posts the following: Prior to this post in specific, he had never mentioned Dirkzor. Ever. Why suddenly Dirkzor is a good targetd to Wiggles(who is voting VE) switch into? Why not just say "Like Drazerk."? To me, that's throwing random suspicion in order to see if it latches. That's exactly what Dirkzor mentions. He votes VE because he noticed this "or Dirkzor" and realized that it is a way to throw suspicion and hoping it to latch. VE's response? "You added nothing new to my case". But wait! Dirkzor DID add something new: the part I just mentioned, where VE throws a suspicion without ever mentioning a reason on him. From here onwards, the discussion becomes a mess of big nothing. Dirkzor had a small suspicion of VE and voted him when he saw something big on VE's play, but VE accuses him of not voting him earlier(OF course he didn't vote earlier, it was the later post that convinced Dirkzor). VE's whole "case" on Dirkzor is that he waited to vote. I'll admit the whole "Dirkzor lied about the meta case" makes him look bad, but I'm also willing to believe he researched the wrong guy. This post I was throwing my thoughts while reading the thread. Kitaman hasn't posted much since, but I have my eyes on him. That is what you'd call "having suspicion without voting". I don't even remember kita answering that to me, which only makes it worse. However, right now, I think that is a subject for another time. Second bolded part about Drazerk is a contradiction to you. By your logic, me and Drazerk are part of the same scum team. By your logic, I'm asking people to shoot my teammate day 1. You just played a scum game with me, you know I don't bus people until later in the game. Besides, I'm just agreeing with Drazerk himself - that he needs to be shot lategame. I'm not throwing random shit and seeing if it latches(like you did with dirkzor HEYOOO), I'm just trying to make sense of the thread while I'm reading it. Anyways I'll keep my vote on Hopeless1der until he posts something, and will switch into VE to consolidate unless something big happens. Gonna work now... and it's possible I'll have little time to read prior to deadline, so don't fret when I just vote VE on the voting thread! I'll answer any concerns at night when I'm done raiding with my guild(which should be in about 12 hours from now). Good day guys! Let's skip the OMGUS for his vote. That was reasonably justified. My issue is: What's the deal with his vote being left on me. I've got to head out right now, so I'll post this as is. Be back later. Sup hopes. Had a crazy day at work today. Some kiddo thought he could take down the whole company because he lost 4 bucks on his cellphone. As if he was anyone at all. Crazy huh? So yeah, I now got a job that gives no free space. once in a while I can give a look at the thread, but writting anything would be useless(even now when I can come back to the thread it isn't very helpful, but I'm trying). First you know nothing of my role. You don't know what my medic claim has to do with anything. Any reasonable townie shouldn't care about my medic claim in fact. You know when Kenpachi claims VT every game? Or when wbg did it as NoSmurfHere on (i think it was) NMM2? it's the same concept here. Maybe I'm trying to draw shots. Maybe I just want to draw reactions. Maybe it's a way for me to avoid being lynched. You wouldn't know, would you? There are multiple reasons - and telling the reason defeats the whole purpose of it. I'll just say it is working quite nicely so far. I said I'd switch to VE. I also said I missed it later. You know why? Some Portuguese douche came in and started screaming curses everywhere because his little kiddo didn't receive his puny credits on a game and he wanted to take the company down too. I get these quite often actually - at least twice a week. I didn't have time to come back and voteswitch to VE. Me doing it would make no difference either as I see; point is if I had that little mini-break, I'd come here and ninja-vote VE. I didn't. You understand why I voted you, right? You used the same reason as I am using now. You didn't have time to explain. I didn't have time to vote. I didn't like that you ninjavoted. I'd have buried my vote on VE if I hadn't cared enough about pressuring you. I have to reread the whole dirkzor thing, and look for interactions with Toad. Reason is.. Dirkzor fought VE, VE got a shot from scum-meowth=toad. Something is smelly in here. will come back in a few if I find something. Can someone care to elighten me on the whole "you have just claimed scum" someone shouted out there? So many one-liners i'm confused @_@ VE, why do you think I'm scum? | ||
JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On August 23 2012 10:58 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm currently looking into both and haven't decided who I'd kill between the two of them. The comment was more about my feelings toward the Mattchew wagon that's brewin than about my read on Dirk tbh. I think that given the variety of reasons people think Mattchew is scum, dismissing it out of hand as a wagon without really talking about the evidence is scummy, regardless what Mattchew's own alignment is. If he's scum, soft defense to distance yourself. No townie motivation for a defense of another player that doesn't address any of the reasoning against them. If he's town, which is doubtful, this post of yours could be used to lead into mislynches after a flip. | ||
VisceraEyes
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=359357¤tpage=19#365 (he also mentioned it on a list of voters but it doesn't matter) Reading Toad's filter, he is also always "I'm meh on him" or "I don't know". You see, that's the kind of stuff that scum partners say to each other when they don't want to lynch an ally. There was a pretty big distance between Toad and Dirkzor, and I don't think it was unintentional. On the same way though, I can't give much insight on it. The fact that it is so hard to find interactions of Toad/VisceraEyes on toad's filter(because Ctrl+F'ing 'VE' is stupid) isn't helping me; VE, do you happen to know if Toad had some kind of fight with you for you to warrant that shot? Why would he shoot you at that point in time? ...I don't think my "make connections" thing is working out @_@ I'm tired as fuck too. | ||
Barbiero
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Barbiero
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On August 23 2012 11:03 VisceraEyes wrote: Because of your lack of contribution yesterday. I'm still putting it all together - feel free to keep talking in the meantime. For that matter, yesterday was WIFOM time for roles. I was tired as fuck... I know I'm overusing this excuse, but I have no other. I guess I'll have to get a break from mafia after this.. anyway, since it was simply night and I was tired, I just said "fuck it and I'll look at it later" | ||
VisceraEyes
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:/ I don't know what to think right now, and I'm having a hard time putting everything together. I wish there was someone I could trust that trusted me back. ![]() ![]() | ||
Barbiero
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VisceraEyes
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On August 23 2012 11:22 Zephirdd wrote: VE, think about it. If a scum shot you knowing it wouldn't kill you, wouldn't that implicate me? There is a reason I thought meowth was town. Yes, I hadn't thought about it like that. I mean it doesn't clear you (it DOES, in fact, implicate you), but it's certainly something to consider. | ||
Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
On August 23 2012 11:25 VisceraEyes wrote: Yes, I hadn't thought about it like that. I mean it doesn't clear you (it DOES, in fact, implicate you), but it's certainly something to consider. [Insert random wifom comment about how that was made to implicate me and make a mislynch] I can't say you're wrong either, even if I know I'm town; but I can say it could have something to do with Dirkzor. Problem is: I found his logic to look fine during your exchange, but you did counterargue it nicely and I don't recall him doing it back. If he did, I didn't see it. Augh I'm sleepy. Hopefully I can read some more about this in the morning - luckily my job begins at 13 and ends at 22, so my mornings are kinda free. When I wake up that is. oh well. gnight | ||
wherebugsgo
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Problem? No? Cool. ##vote Mattchew | ||
Mattchew
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On August 23 2012 11:47 wherebugsgo wrote: I want to kill Mattchew. Problem? No? Cool. ##vote Mattchew hi i have a problem | ||
VisceraEyes
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What I mean is - one-liners aren't, strictly speaking, "playing" the game. They're like...active observing. It's getting really fucking old and I'd really like a reason to not vote you. | ||
Mattchew
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one would be that dirkzor is still alive, and if he posted any more hesitantly and nervously he wouldn't post at all. He is playing to not get caught, not to catch scum. you know, when he insta-accuses VE cause he was accused for good reason? or when he tells BC he's doesn't think BC is scum, so BC shouldn't be accusing him. or even how he enters the thread the second would be that wiggles is still alive, and he has posted mostly about setup and how the 2 lynch candidates came about (he doesn't even give an opinion to dirk's alignment). the third is that I am town and would be a bad lynch | ||
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