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HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 21 2012 21:47 GMT
#719
Whoever made Meowth should tell us what that role is. There is no reason for a townie to not have claimed the shot.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 22 2012 06:07 GMT
#774
On August 22 2012 07:20 Toadesstern wrote:
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On August 22 2012 06:47 HiroPro wrote:
Whoever made Meowth should tell us what that role is. There is no reason for a townie to not have claimed the shot.

Why do you want that? More importantly why do you want to know this during the nightphase?
What information would you gain from knowing meowth's full role other than "dude shot someone d1" ?
Would it somehow help figure out mafia?
Would it somehow help figure out who's really likely town?
Would it somehow help figure out who to shoot / protect / DT / whatever else you got tonight?

I honestly don't think any of those questions would be answered with a yes, yet you asked for role-information rather than who meowth is. I just can't see a motivation in the question you just asked that is NOT mafiaagenda. At all.

Sad thing I bluffed with my KP power earlier the day, or did I ? I'd probably shoot you right now lol


I wanted it now because people are going to die during the nightphase; it's entirely possible that the creator of meowth will be shot.

The point is that it gives us information on a role that scum likely has and it prevents that person from making a fakeclaim with whatever their other abilities are.

I didnt really consider the possibilities that Drazerk did for not claiming and the role that says he's made makes anything like that pointless anyway.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 22 2012 16:58 GMT
#791
On August 22 2012 20:56 Toadesstern wrote:
The creator of a role is not allowed to talk about it until the role has flipped according to a mod-statement. Are you trying to get someone mod-killed?
Why is it a role scum likely has? There has been a lot of talk about Meowth so far. Just picture him being some crazy shit like dayvig + bulletproof. Noone in their right mind would claim something like that because it would help mafia.

Besides: I shot our lovely hosts a PM and I'm totally not going to talk about what a host told me or publish a host-pm but I guess asking the right question might shed some light on some things like:
a) Meowth
b) VE
That being said. I like both VE and Meowth right now, which may sound quite strange but I doubt any of those two is actually mafia although one shot the other.


It's not the fact that Meowth didn't claim their role - it's the fact that they didn't claim the shot. It shows that they likely don't want to take responsibility for it.

Even the role you suggested would have no problem announcing that they fired a shot. Its not like that would force them to claim their full role.

Now if they thought like Drazerk did, then maybe I could see why they wouldn't claim shooting.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 22 2012 17:25 GMT
#793
On August 23 2012 02:20 strongandbig wrote:
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On August 23 2012 01:58 HiroPro wrote:
On August 22 2012 20:56 Toadesstern wrote:
The creator of a role is not allowed to talk about it until the role has flipped according to a mod-statement. Are you trying to get someone mod-killed?
Why is it a role scum likely has? There has been a lot of talk about Meowth so far. Just picture him being some crazy shit like dayvig + bulletproof. Noone in their right mind would claim something like that because it would help mafia.

Besides: I shot our lovely hosts a PM and I'm totally not going to talk about what a host told me or publish a host-pm but I guess asking the right question might shed some light on some things like:
a) Meowth
b) VE
That being said. I like both VE and Meowth right now, which may sound quite strange but I doubt any of those two is actually mafia although one shot the other.


It's not the fact that Meowth didn't claim their role - it's the fact that they didn't claim the shot. It shows that they likely don't want to take responsibility for it.

Even the role you suggested would have no problem announcing that they fired a shot. Its not like that would force them to claim their full role.

Now if they thought like Drazerk did, then maybe I could see why they wouldn't claim shooting.


drazerk's thing doesn't hit you if you claim the role you received, it hits you if you claim the role you created.


I'm talking about this:

On August 22 2012 07:15 Drazerk wrote:
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On August 22 2012 06:47 HiroPro wrote:
Whoever made Meowth should tell us what that role is. There is no reason for a townie to not have claimed the shot.


I can think of a few -

Multi shot compulsive day vigi
Linked to another player (Lovers/Siblings (although more likely for Nidoran))
The fact there are roles out there that need names to kill people
The fact there are roles out there that need names to turn them green

There is probably more I can't think of right now but those are the ones that stick out in my head


HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 22 2012 20:32 GMT
#836
On August 23 2012 05:27 Toadesstern wrote:
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On August 23 2012 05:20 Kurumi wrote:
On August 23 2012 05:13 Toadesstern wrote:
On August 23 2012 05:09 strongandbig wrote:
On August 23 2012 04:59 Kurumi wrote:
On August 23 2012 04:57 strongandbig wrote:
that's totally not useless

use it on people you think vigs might target to make them not resist the vig shot

And make a vet dt die by an accident . Thats stupid. I am not using my role ever


this is like the dumbest post i've ever seen

well duh. He keeps on posting stuff like that and everybody but me seems to be fine with him doing something like that.
Same goes for Drazerk.

Why is it that it's totally fine for Kurumi to post something like that? Clearly he's not even joking around, which was the reasoning for lettimg him off d1 if I remember correctly, yet no one seems to care about what he posts...

So you think things I say are dumb and that is why I should be a lynch. Clap clap scum, maybe talk something about seeing us tomorrow?

Kind of the other way around. I say the things you say are mafia oriented, therefore they're stupid.


What was mafia-oriented about that post?
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 23 2012 01:21 GMT
#902
You still think Hopeless is scum, BC?
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 23 2012 15:32 GMT
#983
what now, wiggles? still believe one of the wagons was started by scum?
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 23 2012 15:40 GMT
#985
I don't understand your logic.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 23 2012 15:50 GMT
#989
On August 24 2012 00:43 Kurumi wrote:
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On August 24 2012 00:40 HiroPro wrote:
I don't understand your logic.

Me neither. I am pretty sure this was Town KP.


That's not the thing. I doubt it's town kp. I want to know why BC flipping town makes him certain that Wiggles is scum.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 23 2012 20:57 GMT
#1036
You read hopeless's games right, dirk? Why didn't you mention any of them when you say that he's scum?
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 23 2012 21:33 GMT
#1039
On August 24 2012 06:29 Hopeless1der wrote:
Well, that accusation came out of left field. I'd love to hear more about why I'm scum when you have a moment dirkzor.


Hi. You said you were looking at wiggles, dirk, and matt. No thoughts?
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 24 2012 01:29 GMT
#1073
Wiggles, why did you leave your vote on VE even after the shot and when it was clear that he wasn't up for lynch?
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 24 2012 01:49 GMT
#1083
I love how you didn't answer the most important question, mattchew.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 24 2012 01:49 GMT
#1084
On August 24 2012 10:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
actually there is ONE case in which Mattchew is not lying:

Wiggles is a pokemon type that takes half damage from electric types.


Did you read JingleHell's claim?
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 24 2012 01:54 GMT
#1089
On August 24 2012 10:51 Mattchew wrote:
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On August 24 2012 10:49 HiroPro wrote:
I love how you didn't answer the most important question, mattchew.

?


I was talking about how you didn't address the point of why you actually thought wiggles was scum.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 24 2012 03:15 GMT
#1098
On August 24 2012 11:30 Hopeless1der wrote:
Hurray for claiming!

I think Mattchew is stupid for not understanding the KP mechanics, but ultimately town.
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 13:30 Mattchew wrote:
in a weird twist, i would only rather lynch wiggles if it is either me or him.

i would much much rather lynch dirk

There's the crumb for his shot, or as close as I could find.

I'm waiting on dirk to tell me why he thinks I'm scum
I think wiggles is my lynch of choice for today, as he has got off entirely too easy following the hit on BC. He got some breathing room and he comes back with a strong defensive post but doesn't know who to vote yet, or who he suspects. He also won't go after bugs anymore even though the Day1 wagons were supposedly started by scum.

##Vote:Mr.Wiggles


What made you think wiggles was scum earlier? None of this stuff happened then, yet you said you thought wiggles was scummiest. But you don't talk about any of his posting that happened before your post indicating suspicion.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 24 2012 13:33 GMT
#1113
Mattchew didnt mention wiggles as scum until day 2. And he really hasn't done much this game. I'll vote for him.

##Vote Mattchew
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 24 2012 15:14 GMT
#1121
lol. Thinking about this, Mattchew is probably third party.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 24 2012 17:51 GMT
#1158
Lol i think kurumi is right. Be back in half an hour. I wont be there at deadline.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 24 2012 18:18 GMT
#1175
He still hasnt answered my question wiggles oh wiggles oh where have you gone.

I'd prefer killing hopeless over misder because of the timing of his mattchew defense, but honestly neither of them look town to me.
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