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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 12 2012 00:30 GMT
#1627
I didn't end up masoning yesterday, it was going strange. My D1 and D2 logs are already in the thread.

Probably should have used it on someone, but didn't want to lose access to a person by talking to them on such a strange day.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 12 2012 00:51 GMT
#1631
Well, I never did figure out why VE was still alive, for the pisston of reasons that already existed, and beyond that... I'd really have to go back through.

Possibly look at the active lurkers, I'm sure there's at least one scum in there.

I plan to go through a few filters either tonight or tomorrow morning to try and dig some things up, I know there's a few things on the edge of my mind about a few people.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 13 2012 17:37 GMT
#1682
Hey people. Sorry about not getting back faster. Ended up not having as much free time as I thought this weekend.

I see people are finally getting onboard for VE. About time. Once my kid goes down for his nap, I'll try and get that filter diving I've been promising done.

##Vote VE
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 13 2012 18:10 GMT
#1686
On August 14 2012 03:05 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 02:37 JingleHell wrote:
Hey people. Sorry about not getting back faster. Ended up not having as much free time as I thought this weekend.

I see people are finally getting onboard for VE. About time. Once my kid goes down for his nap, I'll try and get that filter diving I've been promising done.

##Vote VE


Funny that I have to go back 2+ pages in your filter since you even last mentioned VE being a scumread.

If by 'about time' you mean 'people are now looking at townie talismania's VE case' then yes. Where were you pushing VE when talis was making his large (good) case? I also remind people reading this that talis was a TOWN-READ for Jingle, so why wasn't Jingle helping push the VE case with Talis??


It must be very convincing to mention my filter when you clearly haven't read it. Handy to make a case out of nothing. I don't know what the hell you're thinking, but if you want to make ME look scummy, you'll have to try harder to push through a mislynch on me.

I wanted VE days ago. He somehow got Erandorr through instead. This was after Talis explained point by point why he thought the case against Talis was weaker than it looked, and sold me on it. That was one of the things that also convinced me on Talis.

All this information is readily available. You know, in my filter, which will also explain every other thing you're waiting to bring up as "evidence" against me.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 13 2012 18:14 GMT
#1689
On August 14 2012 03:12 marvellosity wrote:
Now who's twisting words? I said it was 2+ pages (beginning of page 3) of your filter where you last mentioned VE as a scumread. This is an incontrivertable fact.

Problem bro?


You're trying to make things out like I'm "protecting" VE, based on some arbitrary interpretation of information you claim to have looked through, while ignoring all of it. Make a case against me, or don't. Either way, you just blew your cover scum.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 13 2012 18:15 GMT
#1690
On August 14 2012 03:14 marvellosity wrote:
I find your huge defensiveness intriguing


Ask around. I always get pissed about batshit, stupid, tinfoil hat cases that ignore the information.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 13 2012 18:21 GMT
#1693
On August 14 2012 03:17 marvellosity wrote:
haha. I blew my cover? Wow. Your lack of control of your emotions is as usual your undoing.

Such unnecessary defensiveness than a huge OMGUS based on... what? the fact i observed something about your filter? rofl.

currently looking at VisceraEyes, Hassybaby, JingleHell, BroodkingEXE, Synstr


Right, says the guy who has a very convenient cover of replacing for a lurker, who came in trying to take over the thread, wanting all the masons to talk to him... why, so you could convince them of your innocence? You're trying to somehow make me scum? Just because I've been less of an idiot?

Your "replacement BOTD" is officially gone, coming after me with nothing and calling me pointing it out as suspicious an OMGUS is a pretty clear scum motive.

Of course, lynching me will prove you're scum, so I have nothing to fear.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 13 2012 18:23 GMT
#1695
On August 14 2012 03:18 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 03:15 JingleHell wrote:
On August 14 2012 03:14 marvellosity wrote:
I find your huge defensiveness intriguing


Ask around. I always get pissed about batshit, stupid, tinfoil hat cases that ignore the information.


that's the funny thing. there wasn't a tinfoilhat case. there was me observing something about your filter and you blowing up about it.


You pretty clearly were implying I'm scum based on the dumbest vague information I could imagine, I suppose you think you can make a real case against me, based on... what?

Go ahead, I'm looking forward to laughing in your face as you explain how everything I've done to try and help the town, while being blown off and ignored with every scumread I made, somehow connects me to a plot to fake Elvis's death.

Make it or fuck off.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 13 2012 18:28 GMT
#1697
On August 14 2012 03:24 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 03:21 JingleHell wrote:
On August 14 2012 03:17 marvellosity wrote:
haha. I blew my cover? Wow. Your lack of control of your emotions is as usual your undoing.

Such unnecessary defensiveness than a huge OMGUS based on... what? the fact i observed something about your filter? rofl.

currently looking at VisceraEyes, Hassybaby, JingleHell, BroodkingEXE, Synstr


Right, says the guy who has a very convenient cover of replacing for a lurker, who came in trying to take over the thread, wanting all the masons to talk to him... why, so you could convince them of your innocence? You're trying to somehow make me scum? Just because I've been less of an idiot?

Your "replacement BOTD" is officially gone, coming after me with nothing and calling me pointing it out as suspicious an OMGUS is a pretty clear scum motive.

Of course, lynching me will prove you're scum, so I have nothing to fear.


You so funny, qtpie.

I want the masons to talk to me to convince them of my innocence? Nice mafia mindset. No, I want masons to talk to me so I can extract information. Like with VE.

I'm not trying to make you scum because you're "less of an idiot", whatever that means. The fact is you're having an unnecessary aneuryism when I pointed something out about VE from your filter. Where's the OMGUS? there's no OMGUS, just using emotive words now are we?

"coming after you with nothing" - see, I wasn't even coming after you before, I was prodding you for information. And by god, you've given me that information.

Let's play, Jingle.


Oh bullshit, this isn't some sort of smoking gun, this is you being too narrow-minded to realize that if you want to attack someone with nothing you should be ready to do something besides turn it into mud slinging.

This sort of "bait" shit you're trying to play, it's a load of shit. I don't know where the hell you get the idea that I'm scum because I called you on your weak effort to make me look suspicious based on nothing, which means it can only be scummy.

Let me guess, if VE flips red, you'll say I've been bussing him all along. If he flips town, you'll say I wanted distance from the case I had made? That's scum behavior, setting me up so anything can be a case. I'm getting you lynched.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 13 2012 18:32 GMT
#1699
On August 14 2012 03:30 marvellosity wrote:
You're the one slinging mud, dear.

Just like scum. You're next.

Gonna risk leaving me alive until tomorrow's day cycle to massage your ego, are we?


I couldn't kill you at night if I wanted to, but my ego isn't the one going nuts here, you're the one trying to force a mislynch on one of the only people who isn't confirmed who has some measure of town credit.

Although a vigi saving us from the danger of you somehow conning the lurkers into killing me tomorrow, with some help from your scumbuddies would be nice.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 15 2012 02:57 GMT
#1797
If you honestly think you've made a case against me by "fishing for a reaction" by referencing my filter without actually bringing anything out of my filter to make a case with, I'm going to call it scummy.

If anyone thinks that's an OMGUS, I'm truly sorry, but there's not much in Marv's filter to work with without going as far off into "what if-maybe" land as he's in. Convenient votes and cases against people who were already seen as scummy to establish town cred after replacing in... (what scum team leaves alive a replacement townie who's getting BOTD again?) and then he goes after the hard target.

Me.

And no, no mason logs. I had a lot on my plate over the weekend, and showed back up to this nonsense of an attack by Marv, after which I've been trying to keep some distance so I don't get told off again like I did in Newbie XXIII for being mean. Oh wait, who cohosted that, requested me to replace in for him, and should know about the debacle? Right, the guy who wants to turn it into a scumtell.

##Vote Marvellosity
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 15 2012 03:01 GMT
#1799
Look at his "case" against me. It's all fluff based on trying to force an emotional reaction out of me. Go read the page he keeps referencing and tell me it doesn't look suspicious.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 15 2012 14:31 GMT
#1813
So, you ignore my mason logs with Talis completely, and you "prove" that you're town by talking about you believing Talis was town, you voting VE, and you voting Zeph.

Of course, I believed Talis was town, I tried to lynch VE days before it happened, and I was on the fence about Zeph for a while, until a solid case was made. But I'm scum, and you're town!

This case is absurd, and it's either scummy or a joke. Piss off.

If you want to convince me you're town, go for someone who's actually scummy, or at least make a case against me that doesn't ignore the majority of my filter.

If you people are actually crazy enough to listen to this shit, you deserve to lose to that guy.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 15 2012 14:38 GMT
#1816
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=352668&currentpage=48#955

Go read, that. Notice how I seem to suddenly shift my opinion.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=352668&currentpage=56#1103

Then, actually READ my mason logs with Talis, and you'll see how it makes sense, as he explains shit to me.

But hey, you're wanting to lynch me, and just hand the game to scum. (Or win it for them). That's your choice, but if you think you're making a case against me, you're full of shit. Piss off. I won't waste any more time with answering your baseless accusations until you stop cherrypicking a tiny fraction of my filter, or trying to force an emotional response and acting like succeeding at it makes me scummy.

I could probably make your filter look just as bad, if you had one.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 15 2012 14:39 GMT
#1817
You know what? Go fuck yourself, I'm not taking this shit from anyone who thinks calling me "kid" makes their case stronger.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 16 2012 20:20 GMT
#1839
On August 17 2012 05:10 marvellosity wrote:
Come on guys, get your voting slippers on.

What has Jingle done this cycle? OMGUS'd me, swore at me, called my case bad without trying to refute ANY of it, made some point about his logs showing he hadn't read my case, and what?

In short, Jingle has done nothing this cycle that even remotely suggests he is trying to win this game for town. NOTHING. I clearly want to win this game for town. C'mon.

Vote JingleHell.


Oh no, I swore at your stupid fucking "case". I was getting ready to kick back and laugh at the sheep for handing you the game, but this pile of shit is a joke. You made a "case" out of personal attacks, lies, and smoke, and you're going to act like that's MY tactic?

That's a load of shit and you know it. I made the only effort I should NEED to make to refute your nonsense, I pointed it out for the joke it was. It's inflammatory bilge being dropped like some sort of information, and then you act like I'm the one playing on emotions. I'm sure you and your surviving scumbuddy are laughing hysterically in the QT right now that people are actually buying this.

But whatever, if people want to lose this badly, good riddance, I can't say it's been fun dealing with a bunch of narcissistic assholes who yell at me every time I try to make a case anyways, so watching town lose to you will be funny, Marv.

JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 16 2012 20:25 GMT
#1843
You arrogant little prick, you talk about the way I address you when you're dropping this shit? And you act like me saying something back to you is scummier than your bullshit?

Say, explain to me again why hypothetical scum me let you live?

Or why hypothetical scum anyone let you live, if you're half as good as people seem to think?

Have fun losing, town. I'll come back and laugh at you in a farewell post at deadline.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 17 2012 01:16 GMT
#1853
GG.

http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/f9YmvTFDT9d

Scum QT. There's a bit in there for you.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 17 2012 13:46 GMT
#1899
Actually quite a few people called me scum at different points, it's just that until the end there was always someone scummier than me buying me time to shoot people.

Someone pointed it out once... everybody that suspects Jingle ends up dead. Well, until Marv, who I wanted to shoot, but I figured if there was one thing potentially worse than a case against me, it would be if a confirmed townie took over doing it, and we had two of those after the detectives had to die.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 17 2012 13:54 GMT
#1902
On August 17 2012 22:50 strongandbig wrote:
I think that was a mistake Jingle - there's a difference between being a confirmed townie and being able to bully everyone else into agreeing with you.

Although tbh I don't think marvellosity was doing that very effectively - imo it was the scumslip that bke found that sealed the deal, up until that point I would've lynched marv first over you had I been alive.


The "case" marv started with was pure fluff. He already planned to make the real one he came back to. His "reaction fishing" was just to get the means to convince the lurkers to vote for me. Any reaction, no matter what, can be made into a spectacle to convince lurkers to vote the right way for the wrong reasons.
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