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CountDropula
Profile Joined April 2012
United States61 Posts
August 07 2012 05:01 GMT
#921
Hey guys,

How about lynching Zeph today? I've got him pissing his pants.
BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
August 07 2012 07:03 GMT
#922
Erandorr
Erandorr has been doing scummy things all game long and its time they get splayed out for everyone to see.

The WBG case.
Eran's points:
1) The mason out
The majority of Erandorr's earlier posts addressed this issue. There were flaws in the thinking that outing is anti-town. Mafia's ability to PM each other being one of them. His main argument that mason alignment is unknown only makes sense from a town POV. A scum WBG knows mason alignment, so outing them makes no sense. You also have to remember that Erandorr outed himself as well. His explantion:
On August 04 2012 01:37 Erandorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 01:31 talismania wrote:
On August 04 2012 00:39 talismania wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:53 Erandorr wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:51 strongandbig wrote:
On August 03 2012 21:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
Erandorr just masoned me. Dunno if he's scum or just dumb though.

Also I didn't ask either of them before outting them.



errandorr I was kind of hoping you would address this without being prompted but...


I wanted to see if he did it again, considering I know my alignment. Its a completely anti town move . Give me one reason why not to hammer wbg right now please.



can you walk me through your thought process a little more? It seemed like you were against masons being in public given your agreement with toad. So why did you risk outing yourself?



Its a completely anti town move to out people like that without thoughts on alignment or actually any information. They may have been context with VE, but I thought of it as trading my role for confirming wbg as sctiateum. it is that easy.

Really? What was WBGs first point (the point you so thought was so blatantly wrong)? The reasoning doesn't make sense either as outing your self isn't alignment indicative.

2) Mason Logs
As a mason Erandorr has two reasons for picking someone: he has suspicions and wants to get a better read on them or he wants to talk about the game with a townread without giving info to mafia. Picking WBG he already chose the second option. Yet he tries for an hour to get an answer, when it was quite clear that he wasn’t going to get shit. I dont see the advantage of asking the question in the PM at all, the thread was a much better way to get that info from WBG as it forces him to make semi rational posts. You could say that he was trying to bait out WBG, but that seems like a viable scum option.

3) Not analyzing posts: Funny cause he isn’t doing it either. Calling the townbase bad and not addressing certain cases.
Playing Protoss = Opponent owned
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
August 07 2012 08:18 GMT
#923
I'm convinced that Dropula is town now. His case against Zeph is the most insane thing I've ever read. All it's based on is the META WIFOM-argument that Zephird got more mad this game than his last game. And even that is a very weak arguments because he is yet to find a situation which is similiar to the one in this game. Unless he is a smurf of some sort and this actually is his first game there is noway he would be playing like this as scum. His team mates would've told him to stop long ago. The way he also pulled up so many suspicious posts on D1 and then responded with ''well, I'm noob'' and then later on says ''HAHA, it was all part of my plan'' doesn't make sense at all.

To Dropula: Your case is the most shittiest shit I've read in a long time. Stop it. Your flowing the thread with useless text.
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
August 07 2012 09:02 GMT
#924
agree Lazer

who do you want to lynch today?
ATOBTTR
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
August 07 2012 09:43 GMT
#925
On August 07 2012 18:02 s0Lstice wrote:
agree Lazer

who do you want to lynch today?
Well, my n1 scum read turned up to be probebly town so I had to reread a bit first.

My top scum read is VE. Unless I'm misstaken he is considered vet or at least semi-vet, no? Yet I feel like all his attempts to hunt scum is aiming to hit weak plays rather than scum plays. He is chasing Erandorr for picking on WBG with poor logic. He went after Talis for the way he he is '''role fishing''(even tho OP says every character can be any algnment) yet ignoring all the other things he had posted at that point. He also went after Zeph when the shit storm around him was at it's peak. Note that he is always picking the ones who is under most pressure, while this is not necessarily is a scum trait, it's something to consider.

I don't know anything about his meta TBH, but unless he is always aiming to kill weak players under heavy pressure(Lol...), I'd say this is a very scummy behavior.

##Vote: VE
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 07 2012 10:33 GMT
#926
I can get down with voting for VE. I think out of the masons he and Hassy are the scummiest.

I think that VE's townread on WBG coming from those PMs doesn't ring true to me, and his deflecting of the lynch off of wbg came at a pretty important point in the thread.

He's posting much less of substance than I would have expected. He used mason-ing as an excuse for that, but he made all of like five pm's with wbg.

Also talismania was right about how ve's case on him was kinda weird and cherry-picked.

##vote: VE
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 07 2012 10:48 GMT
#927
reee. Going to mason someone right NAO and he's going to explain what' going on to me :3
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
August 07 2012 10:54 GMT
#928
Toad, what do you think about VE? or anyone else who you suspect to be scum for that matter?
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 07 2012 10:59 GMT
#929
On August 07 2012 19:54 Lazermonkey wrote:
Toad, what do you think about VE? or anyone else who you suspect to be scum for that matter?

I consider it highly unlikely that two out of VE, WBG and Eran are mafia right now. That being said I still consider WBG the scummiest out of those 3 which makes both VE and Eran town besided having a null-read on VE and a town read on Eran so far myself.

So unless we're lynching WBG I'm not willing to lynch into a vet today.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 07 2012 11:06 GMT
#930
Although I've got to admit that VE going after Eran, Eran going after WBG and WBG doing bullshit is kinda weird if WBG really is mafia, because that would mean VE got manipulated a lot.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
August 07 2012 11:18 GMT
#931
On August 07 2012 19:59 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 19:54 Lazermonkey wrote:
Toad, what do you think about VE? or anyone else who you suspect to be scum for that matter?

I consider it highly unlikely that two out of VE, WBG and Eran are mafia right now. That being said I still consider WBG the scummiest out of those 3 which makes both VE and Eran town besided having a null-read on VE and a town read on Eran so far myself.

So unless we're lynching WBG I'm not willing to lynch into a vet today.
It doesn't seem very unlikely with a WBG lynch atm so who do you want to lynch then? Because my impression of this post is that you have other scum reads than WBG atm.

Also why a null tell on VE? Do you not agree with the suspicion on him? I did do some research on one of his older games(Mini mafia II, he played townie). While he was whish washy which eventually got him lynched D2, his reads were very good. Out of the 4 people he suspected at the end that day, 3 of them were scum. He was basing his reads on whether or not someone seemed scummy, rather than if their logic was flawed.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
August 07 2012 11:19 GMT
#932
EBWOP: missed your most recent post, although that doesn't really change anything.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 07 2012 11:26 GMT
#933
On August 07 2012 20:18 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 19:59 Toadesstern wrote:
On August 07 2012 19:54 Lazermonkey wrote:
Toad, what do you think about VE? or anyone else who you suspect to be scum for that matter?

I consider it highly unlikely that two out of VE, WBG and Eran are mafia right now. That being said I still consider WBG the scummiest out of those 3 which makes both VE and Eran town besided having a null-read on VE and a town read on Eran so far myself.

So unless we're lynching WBG I'm not willing to lynch into a vet today.
It doesn't seem very unlikely with a WBG lynch atm so who do you want to lynch then? Because my impression of this post is that you have other scum reads than WBG atm.

Also why a null tell on VE? Do you not agree with the suspicion on him? I did do some research on one of his older games(Mini mafia II, he played townie). While he was whish washy which eventually got him lynched D2, his reads were very good. Out of the 4 people he suspected at the end that day, 3 of them were scum. He was basing his reads on whether or not someone seemed scummy, rather than if their logic was flawed.

The problem with Town-VE is that he usually has the same problems I have. He either has really good games or he's completly horrible. There's pretty much nothing inbetween(of course there is, but it seems like that because they're so extreme) and those really good games aren't the majority of his games either.
The game you linked (didn't know about it) apparently was one of his good games.
The one he played SK was incredibly good, probably one of the best games I've seen from a not-mafia.
And than on the other side he has those incredible derpage-games "Herpaderpa I'ma going to fakeclaim JoaT as VT on d1 to make sure I win the election, although it should be obvious that I'm no JoaT because I claimed something wrong, so everyone will know I lied but has no idea why". Those are games he turns out to be town a well.

But I've still got to admit I haven't read everything in detail so far. Got to check the big posts again and see what they're about. Just posted to give a little update from my pov and tell people I'm back^^
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 07 2012 11:34 GMT
#934
Honestly I'd rather lynch into Hassy right now and give us some time to figure out this triangle of bullshit: WBG, VE and Eran
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
August 07 2012 11:45 GMT
#935
On August 07 2012 20:34 Toadesstern wrote:
Honestly I'd rather lynch into Hassy right now and give us some time to figure out this triangle of bullshit: WBG, VE and Eran
Whaaat? Hassy, the guy with 4 posts on his neck? The only thing he posted of substance is his flawed read and vote on WBG. I agree with that this is not a town move but he has posted far to little for me to determine whether those posts are becuause he is scum or because he isn't playing well.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
August 07 2012 11:46 GMT
#936
EBWOP: I also think he would be in risk of getting modkilled/replaced for his inactivity.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 07 2012 11:52 GMT
#937
On August 07 2012 20:45 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 20:34 Toadesstern wrote:
Honestly I'd rather lynch into Hassy right now and give us some time to figure out this triangle of bullshit: WBG, VE and Eran
Whaaat? Hassy, the guy with 4 posts on his neck? The only thing he posted of substance is his flawed read and vote on WBG. I agree with that this is not a town move but he has posted far to little for me to determine whether those posts are becuause he is scum or because he isn't playing well.

I was masoned with him and he was talkign with me a lot. So I know he did that on purpose for some reason. Just check out the timesstamps of our logs.
He may have missed the first day because he only masoned me on the 2nd day of the game but he still was talking a lot in sykpe.
I don't know if that stuff had a lot of thought behind it but he definitly had his opinions on things that were going on.
Remember the prplhz lynch yesterday? When I told him that prplhz said he really meant what he said about glasse he instantly said "WAT? I thought that was a joke" or something along those lines. So he at least thought things through and evalutated wether or not some people are still trolling around or already posting something with actual content, which is something that is beyond "just reading the thread".

He could have easily posted something, in fact when he did I pushed him into posting, but he chose not to for some reason and I consider that weird.
Combine that with what I said about the logs when I posted them and I consider him scummy.

But I agree, it's a weak read.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
August 07 2012 12:03 GMT
#938
On August 07 2012 20:52 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 20:45 Lazermonkey wrote:
On August 07 2012 20:34 Toadesstern wrote:
Honestly I'd rather lynch into Hassy right now and give us some time to figure out this triangle of bullshit: WBG, VE and Eran
Whaaat? Hassy, the guy with 4 posts on his neck? The only thing he posted of substance is his flawed read and vote on WBG. I agree with that this is not a town move but he has posted far to little for me to determine whether those posts are becuause he is scum or because he isn't playing well.

I was masoned with him and he was talkign with me a lot. So I know he did that on purpose for some reason. Just check out the timesstamps of our logs.
He may have missed the first day because he only masoned me on the 2nd day of the game but he still was talking a lot in sykpe.
I don't know if that stuff had a lot of thought behind it but he definitly had his opinions on things that were going on.
Remember the prplhz lynch yesterday? When I told him that prplhz said he really meant what he said about glasse he instantly said "WAT? I thought that was a joke" or something along those lines. So he at least thought things through and evalutated wether or not some people are still trolling around or already posting something with actual content, which is something that is beyond "just reading the thread".

He could have easily posted something, in fact when he did I pushed him into posting, but he chose not to for some reason and I consider that weird.
Combine that with what I said about the logs when I posted them and I consider him scummy.

But I agree, it's a weak read.
Lol, missed that he masoned you. Need to read the logs.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
August 07 2012 12:27 GMT
#939
Hmm, I must say Hassy doesn't look very good either. In the logs he often avoided taking any hard stances and was really neutral about alot of things. But still I think VE lynch > hassy lynch.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 07 2012 13:30 GMT
#940
I could get down with a Hassy lynch, he's played enough games that he should be more confident posting especially if he was around to read the thread and skype with toad. Like, he clearly belongs in a different category than most of the lurkers in this game who are relatively newer players.

That said, I also think a VE lynch would be good today.

Given the cases so far, I don't find myself persuaded that we should be lynching anyone but those two today.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
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