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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 10 2012 00:18 GMT
#1320
EBWOP: "one" being a townread on Talis.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 10 2012 00:45 GMT
#1329
Don't forget the possibilities where Toad (remember the D1 mislynch, anyone?) is lying. Xsebt has hardly played. We could be dealing with a crazy scum trick.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 10 2012 00:45 GMT
#1330
EBWOP of course, that's a bit of a stretch. But why not consider every possibility?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 10 2012 00:55 GMT
#1335
This is ridiculous. FML. Well, either we've got a pisston of millers, we've got some sort of crazy fast one being pulled, or Talis really did a damn good job selling me.

I'd like to hear this claim from Xsebt, though.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 10 2012 01:22 GMT
#1346
Toad, you're ranting on and on about how good you are at getting townies killed, and you want to make me out to be scum because I was wrong about the guy? If Xsebt shows up and claims, I'm more than happy to lynch on a DT claim. I'm curious what, out of me wanting more information, makes me somehow scummy.

And I don't like how you're screaming Talis is some giant scumread, when he's basically been lower on the radar than a lot of people who ended up dead, all of whom YOU were pushing for.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 10 2012 01:33 GMT
#1352
On August 10 2012 10:27 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 10:22 JingleHell wrote:
Toad, you're ranting on and on about how good you are at getting townies killed, and you want to make me out to be scum because I was wrong about the guy? If Xsebt shows up and claims, I'm more than happy to lynch on a DT claim. I'm curious what, out of me wanting more information, makes me somehow scummy.

And I don't like how you're screaming Talis is some giant scumread, when he's basically been lower on the radar than a lot of people who ended up dead, all of whom YOU were pushing for.

Also I'm not ranting about how you are (are you?) wrong about the guy. I'm ranting about your reaction and how you're protecting him out of nowhere, without giving a reason or anything at all, without doubting for a second that Talis has to be the townie in this set-up. That's the reason I'm reconsidering you.


I'm perfectly willing to admit my read on him was wrong, if it was, and if we have a DT claim I'll vote with it. I've elaborated more than once on why I thought Talis was town, if you can't be assed to track it down, let me help.

For one his measured job in skype of helping me get past my Eran tunnel. I can't imagine a scum motive for that. For two, he's not afraid to change his mind if there's a reason, but he doesn't do it at the drop of a hat.

Doing that while being active isn't very scummy normally. Add in that on several reads we had similar opinions, and on the ones where we didn't, we were able to discuss it productively, he just didn't feel scum.

You'll understand, of course, if I let you do the footwork for yourself to corroborate this, because I've already done my part in saying it. You can try the filter button on any of my posts to make it easier to sift through and find where I've said it.

JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 10 2012 01:47 GMT
#1359
Damn I feel stupid.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 10 2012 04:36 GMT
#1376
You know, as much as I really never got a scum vibe off you, and as much as your argument here is making sense (with at least quick glimpses at filter for activity), even if we assume miller, having a red check alive at MYLO/LYLO is terrible for reaching critical consensus when the scum numbers are coming so close to townie.

I don't want to lynch for information, and I don't want to screw up our odds. But I still want to trust my town read on you. If you can sway enough people on a lynch I'd prefer to get behind, I'll swap my vote up. If you're wrong, we take it as scum confirmation and off you instead.

I gave a lot of reasons for my town read on you, and I'm sure that scummy people with an agenda will be targeting me after today's lynch no matter how it goes, since I believe you, so I might as well follow my gut.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 10 2012 05:07 GMT
#1378
I already made myself clear, VE. I think he's town. And people already want to believe I'm scum, for various reasons they haven't elaborated on, outside of the fact that apparently anybody who mentions me as potentially scummy in passing ends up dead.

I covered my reasons for not wanting to believe it, I went over why I'm willing to switch if he swings a vote, and I explained why I'll lynch him if there's no better option.

Speaking of people who somehow survived what should have been a lynch by pushing the vote onto somebody else, of course, shall we talk about you?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 10 2012 15:35 GMT
#1389
Well, he seems sort of scummy, but his biggest attacker is CD, who I really have my doubts about.

That said, I don't think CD's alignment would be indicative of Zeph's, but I think he's a higher read, personally.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 10 2012 15:48 GMT
#1392
Actually, like I already said, unless he presents a truly strong target, like a perfect case, we should still kill him. Unless he's able to prove himself to be worth the gamble of potentially having alive at MYLO/LYLO when he's been redchecked, he's a liability.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 10 2012 16:23 GMT
#1395
On August 11 2012 01:15 CountDropula wrote:
It seems as though you want a part in my play, Jinglehell


Well, I'd be delighted. You play Julius Caesar, and I'll play Brutus.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 10 2012 21:05 GMT
#1457
I don't know what the fuck is going on here, but I think one of our DTs is a liar, and possibly using some scum info to pass it off. I mean, right now the role list sounds more like Conspiracy Theory mafia. I know it's nuts to WIFOM the host, but what the hell.

Either we believe this setup is absurd as hell, or we see how today's lynch goes and start looking at cases. I usually don't trust anyone, but starting now, I go into paranoia mode.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 10 2012 21:11 GMT
#1464
I'm not taking my vote off a confirmed redcheck. Even Talis is helping confirm Xsebt. I'm going conspiracy theorist on CD/Lazer scum trying to sneak some crazy shit past us to push a lynch on Zeph right now. I don't believe there's a second DT, this shit seems too crazy to me.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 10 2012 21:17 GMT
#1477
On August 11 2012 06:12 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 06:05 JingleHell wrote:
I don't know what the fuck is going on here, but I think one of our DTs is a liar, and possibly using some scum info to pass it off. I mean, right now the role list sounds more like Conspiracy Theory mafia. I know it's nuts to WIFOM the host, but what the hell.

Either we believe this setup is absurd as hell, or we see how today's lynch goes and start looking at cases. I usually don't trust anyone, but starting now, I go into paranoia mode.
Well either both me and Dropula is scum or bot of us is town.


I know. And it sounds fucking crazy, but so does the setup people are suggesting we have here.

Let's face it though, CD also sounds crazy. The only thing making me think it's plausible is the fact that you'd never agree to something insane like that, and you'd probably bus any idiot who ran it behind your back.

If there's two DTs, it could explain the seeming excess of Millers, though. We really need to figure out what to do about this. It starts increasing the odds Talis really is a miller, to me, but you know how bad I hate letting a redcheck live. It's a sign of how sold I was on Talis's townieness that I'm even entertaining the notion of not lynching him.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 10 2012 21:26 GMT
#1491
On August 11 2012 06:23 Hopeless1der wrote:
@Jingle, we have effectively the same scenario on either side:

1)Talis vs. Toad/Xsebt

2) Zeph vs. CD/Lazer

If either of talis or zeph flip town (not miller) the 'dt' is a liar and will be killed. I have yet to get any input from xsebt and toad has disappeared. CD and Lazer have actively tried to confirm each other. Lynching the #2 redcheck gives a much more apparent conclusion on how to proceed tomorrow.

We do need to lynch one of our redchecks. I'd rather it be zeph. In addition, you're just itching to believe talis is a miller due to your town read of him. We're in LYLO unless we hit scum anyways, lets kill the scummier looking of the redchecks first. The other will still be there tomorrow.


It makes sense to me. I'd really love some vindication on my Talis read.

Does this situation seem wrong to anyone else? Like, play this game has just been screwy.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 11 2012 01:56 GMT
#1558
About time. Damn.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 11 2012 04:52 GMT
#1568
I didn't mason the cycle. Was saving mason targets since I can only pick them once and today was so slow.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 12 2012 00:21 GMT
#1621
Ok... so much for our DTs. Guess we got to work with whatever they had, although frankly, I'm starting to think anyone who checks green is a godfather... FML. We got enough Millers?

JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 12 2012 00:25 GMT
#1623
Because I masoned Biosc Day1?
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